bigskygal wrote:I agree that college is a place where there should be open discussion about difficult issues and ideas, but I also feel that the college should do its utmost to cultivate diversity in faculty and student body, and certain language can be regulated as far as its used by individuals to intimidate and oppress, rather than to facilitate a discussion in the educational setting.
I don't think that means I'm against free speech.
Would you argue that the fraternity members who sang about keeping blacks out of the fraternity or raping women should not have been barred from campus for such free speech?
I understand that the rape of women is a common theme in Rap music; so, would you support banning rap music on college campuses?
Would a tea totaling community ban all country music because some of it glorifies drinking?
Would a Christian college ban a all country music because some of it is about whoring around?
Would they ban the Marraige of Figaro?
Geez liberty you come up with the most idiotic things.
rubato--for point number 2, I think it may have already happened. As I recall, Bob Jones University bans all but approved music, including most (if not all) country, jazz, and popular music. I guess it's just contemporary Christian there.
liberty wrote:You don’t believe in freedom of speech. So you must approve what these freedom fighters did. To liberals the speech that deserves protection is the speech that liberals approve of. So how do you all differ from communist? ???
Liberals are famous for having defended free speech even when the speech was abhorrent to them. Google " nazis march in Skokie" for a famous example.
The historical record is that liberals have defended free speech and conservatives have fought to limit it.
The McCarthy hearings and the blacklist are signal examples of the latter.
Big RR wrote:rubato--for point number 2, I think it may have already happened. As I recall, Bob Jones University bans all but approved music, including most (if not all) country, jazz, and popular music. I guess it's just contemporary Christian there.
Ok so only a conservative institution would do such a dumb thing which is why liberty assumes everyone would.
Now that I think of it my parents religion banned all music in their boarding schools. Radios and record players were verboten. Not any genre in particular. And they are uber-conservatives.
rubato wrote:
Would a tea totaling community ban all country music because some of it glorifies drinking?
Yrs,
Rubato
Ah, it's capital Y and capital R's turn on the keyboard today (I think that's little r's nephew or niece). As to tea totaling, once you've counted one bag you've counted 'em all.
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
rubato wrote:
Would a tea totaling community ban all country music because some of it glorifies drinking?
Yrs,
Rubato
Ah, it's capital Y and capital R's turn on the keyboard today (I think that's little r's nephew or niece). As to tea totaling, once you've counted one bag you've counted 'em all.
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Yrs,
Rubato
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you don t hear me saying that the black folks should t be able to say, "white supremacy needs to go", that is what they are saying, I have also heard "black Power"bandied about. should we ban that?
yeah yeah, I know..., white males can t be oppressed....
rubato, I agree that liberals have always stood for free speech..., until recently that is....
they are now calling for campuses to be safe from free speech, at least free from anything that would offend anyone.., except white men.
and I should not say the whole of the left believes this, but it is becoming more mainstream, perhaps THE mainstream, on the left.
thank god for liberals like RR. I don t always agree with him but I always respect his view of and his understanding of this nation.
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
Some of these kids really need to just "suck it up". Ban offensive speech? Create "safe zones"? They are kidding right? And who determines what constitutes "offensive speech"?
Could you imagine trying this happening on college campuses in the 60's and 70's?
Too much protecting when these kids were growing up IMO.
