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Keep you abreast of recent developments:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/che ... the-draft/
Army and Marine Corps chiefs: It’s time for women to register for the draft

By Dan Lamothe February 2 Follow @danlamothe
Top military leaders say women should register for the draft

At a Senate committee hearing on Feb. 2, Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) asked top military leaders if women should have to sign up for the selective service now that combat jobs are opening up to them. This is what they said. (Gillian Brockell/The Washington Post)

The top officers in the Army and Marine Corps testified on Tuesday that they believe it is time for women to register for future military drafts, following the Pentagon’s recent decision to open all jobs in combat units to female service members.

Gen. Mark A. Milley, chief of staff of the Army, and Gen. Robert B. Neller, the Marine Corps commandant, both said they were in favor of the change during an occasionally contentious Senate Armed Services Committee hearing on the full integration of women in the military. The generals, both infantry officers, offered their opinions in response to a question from Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.), who said that she also is in favor of the change.

“Senator, I think that all eligible and qualified men and women should register for the draft,” said Milley, echoing the remarks of Neller.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-35471066
Australian MPs allowed to breastfeed in parliament

2 February 2016

The Australian House of Representatives has changed its rules to allow lawmakers to breastfeed and bottle-feed in the chamber.

Under the old rules, MPs could only take babies into the public galleries or offices of the parliament building.

The leader of the house welcomed the changes to "antiquated" practices.

Breastfeeding in parliament is a controversial issue in many countries, and lawmakers have been criticised for taking their babies to sessions.

The new regulations in Australia mean MPs' infants will no longer be considered as "visitors", banned from entering the chamber of the lower house.

The changes were approved after a recommendation from a parliamentary committee.

"No member male or female will ever be prevented from participating fully in the operation of the parliament by reason of having the care of a baby," House Leader Christopher Pyne said.

"There is absolutely no reason that rules should remain in place which make life in politics and the parliament more difficult for women."

Forty of the 150 members of the House of Representatives are women, and three have had babies since March, the Associated Press news agency said. Four other MPs are reportedly due to become fathers...."

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I think the females should have to register for the draft since the feds tie any kind of federal college aid to whether or not the male student registers.
No register = no aid.

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Not sure whether there should be a draft or a Selective Service System at all, but if those things do exist and males have to register, then females (and the 23 other options ;) ) should have to register too. Only fair.
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From what I remember (12 years ago), males don't "have" to register but will not recieve any college aid they might be eligeble for if they don't.
My daughter had no souch restriction made to her college aid.

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My understanding is that registration is legally required for all males 18-25. One consequence of not registering is that they cannot get federal student aid, but even if they are not students they must register. I don't know what other penalties can be assessed if they do not.

ETA: From the Selective Service Website: Failure to register is a violation of the Military Selective Service Act. Conviction for such a violation may result in imprisonment for up to five years and/or a fine of not more than $250,000.

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I think several of us on the board aged into adulthood during the window between when the draft ended and mandatory registration began. Registration seems like a waste with no benefit at this point, but if we have it, it should apply to everyone.

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I think several of us on the board aged into adulthood during the window between when the draft ended and mandatory registration began
Count me among that group. :ok :mrgreen:

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I turned 18 in November 1972, and went down to the Post Office in early December to comply with the law and register with Selective Service Administration.  I still have the card issued to me at that time.  I am now 61 years of age, and in the past 43 years I have had to produce my draft card exactly zero times when applying for jobs, driver's licenses, bank loans, or anything else in my lifetime.  In the real world they are more interested in seeing your high school diploma or your Social Security card than anything else.

As noted above I still have the card issued to me in 1972, classifying me as 1-H (not subject to processing for induction until a draft is enacted) — although I guess since I am over the age of 35 I am now considered to be 5-A (registrant who is over the age of liability).  So maybe some afternoon when I am bored and looking for something to do I will go down and ask to have my status officially changed and a new card issued. That oughta make their day!
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BB--I registered around the same time, but had to go to the selective service office, not the post office. Things were winding down, so I wouldn't be surprised if different towns treated it differently. I had an initial 1-H classification, then a 1-D one when I joined ROTC (guaranteed that I could finish college so long as I stayed in ROTC--I didn't believe the draft had really ended). I have no idea where the card is now; it probably went out with the trash.

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Big RR wrote:BB--I registered around the same time, but had to go to the selective service office, not the post office. Things were winding down, so I wouldn't be surprised if different towns treated it differently. I had an initial 1-H classification, then a 1-D one when I joined ROTC (guaranteed that I could finish college so long as I stayed in ROTC--I didn't believe the draft had really ended). I have no idea where the card is now; it probably went out with the trash.
I should have clarified; the SSA office was a separate office within the Post Office building, along with the various armed forces recruiters and a bunch of other federal agencies.
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OK; registration now involves filling out a card at the post office; it may also be available online but I'm not sure.

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When I was in HS '70-74 the boys Dean came and got you within 6 months of your 18th birthday and made you fill out the form right there. He took it back and mailed it in.

Nothing optional about it.


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I think several of us on the board aged into adulthood during the window between when the draft ended and mandatory registration began. Registration seems like a waste with no benefit at this point, but if we have it, it should apply to everyone.
Not I.

I was classified 1-A after they got rid of student deferments.

My draft lottery number was 350 something.

So, there. :nana

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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I was English. I didn't care
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rubato wrote:When I was in HS '70-74 the boys Dean came and got you within 6 months of your 18th birthday and made you fill out the form right there. He took it back and mailed it in.

Nothing optional about it.


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SEEMS LIKE ONLY YESTERDAY

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I visited the good ol' local Draft Board in Lansdowne PA three times -- 1967-68 -- during the height of the Viet Nam "war." Once to sign up while I was still in high school where I was eventually classified 1-A, once to board the bus for my pre-induction physical at 1401 N. Broad Street in Philly, and lastly, to catch another bus for my induction physical -- I had a bag packed and ready to go. Would it be the Army or the Marines? They made the choice back then for draftees.

Fortunately, on this last trip I showed up with a bona fide letter from my family doctor who delivered me way back in aught '49. He wrote about my active ulcer (which I'm sure was in development) and how stress would not become me. I was immediately rejected from military service and given my walking papers. Ta-ta, Sarge... it was a pleasure meeting you.

Rather than wait a few hours for the bus to take me back to Lansdowne I decided to walk/run the ten miles back home. Ah, the freedom was exhilarating. Shortly after I was issued a 4-F classification which exempted me for life. It renewed my faith in God.

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