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rubato
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We're better than that.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/opini ... .html?_r=0
"... In committing economic suicide, Britain is trying to close the door and hide from the world. It felt good, no doubt, to tell those overbearing bureaucrats in Brussels to bugger off. We’ll stick with our bangers and mash without any interference from Europe! But the Brexit vote was also a drunken swing at those “others” remaking the image of a lost England. To hear the haters tell it, “Polish vermin” and brown-skinned hordes have overwhelmed the little island nation.

Trump wants us to follow the Brits into a corner of isolation — by race, religion and trade. His philosophy, the rant of a besotted boob making things up in public, is anti-American at its core. In rejecting our former colonial masters, we threw off monarchy, the class system and a state religion. We opened our doors to all nations, all religions, all opinions.

The New World can certainly learn much from the Old World. But the sun never sets on a stupid idea. And this vote to stop the spinning globe and get off at 1952 is among the stupidest. Britain is cracking up now because it followed the crackpots. The United States could make the same mistake — rejecting free trade, and rejecting a welcome mat for free people.

Today, about 13 percent of Britain is foreign-born. What’s disruptive, especially in the timeless tableau of rural England, is that the number of immigrants has more than doubled since 1993. That’s what caused some of the open hatred in the campaign to leave the European Union. Trump is playing with that same fire now.

The United States has an almost identical percentage of foreign-born as Britain, and their presence has also been disruptive. But it’s not unprecedented. As a percentage of the population, there are fewer foreign-born residents in the United States now than there were in 1870, 1890, 1900 and 1910 — not long after a plaque welcoming the “wretched refuse of your teeming shores” was latched to the base of the Statue of Liberty. ..."
And with no false modesty, to be honest, we are.

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In committing economic suicide, Britain is trying to close the door and hide from the world.
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The words of a complete and utterly hysterical ignoramus....

ETA:

Not doing a very good job of "closing the door and hiding from the world":
The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a member of:[1]

African Development Bank (AfDB) (nonregional member)
African Union/United Nations Hybrid Operation in Darfur (UNAMID)
Arctic Council (observer)
Asian Development Bank (ADB) (nonregional member)
Australia Group
Bank for International Settlements (BIS)
British-Irish Council (BIC)
Caribbean Development Bank (CDB) (nonregional member)
Commonwealth of Nations
Council of Europe (CE)
Council of the Baltic Sea States (CBSS)
Euro-Atlantic Partnership Council (EAPC)
European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD)
European Investment Bank (EIB)
European Organization for the Exploitation of Meteorological Satellites (EUMETSAT)
European Organization for Nuclear Research (CERN)
European Space Agency (ESA)
Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO)
General Conference on Weights and Measures (CGPM)
Group of Five (G5)
Group of Eight (G8)
Group of Ten (G10)
Group of Twenty Finance Ministers and Central Bank Governors (G20)
Inter-American Development Bank (IADB)
International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA)
International Bank for Reconstruction and Development (IBRD)
International Chamber of Commerce (ICC)
International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO)
International Confederation of Free Trade Unions (ICFTU)
International Criminal Court (ICCt)
International Criminal Police Organization – INTERPOL
International Development Association (IDA)
International Energy Agency (IEA)
International Federation of Red Cross and Red Crescent Societies (IFRCS)
International Finance Corporation (IFC)
International Fund for Agricultural Development (IFAD)
International Hydrographic Organization (IHO)
International Labour Organization (ILO)
International Maritime Organization (IMO)
International Mobile Satellite Organization (IMSO)
International Monetary Fund (IMF)
International Olympic Committee (IOC)
International Organization for Migration (IOM)
International Organization for Standardization (ISO)
International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement (ICRM)
International Telecommunication Union (ITU)
International Telecommunications Satellite Organization (ITSO)
International Trade Union Confederation (ITUC)
International Whaling Commission (IWO)
Inter-Parliamentary Union (IPU)
Multilateral Investment Guarantee Agency (MIGA)
Non-Aligned Movement (NAM) (guest)
North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO)
Nuclear Energy Agency (NEA)
Nuclear Suppliers Group (NSG)
Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD)
Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW)
Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE)
Organization of American States (OAS) (observer)
Pacific Islands Forum (PIF) (partner)
Paris Club
Permanent Court of Arbitration (PCA)
Secretariat of the Pacific Community (SPC)
Southeast European Cooperative Initiative (SECI) (observer)
United Nations (UN)
United Nations Conference on Trade and Development (UNCTAD)
United Nations Economic and Social Commission for Asia and the Pacific (UNESCAP)
United Nations Economic Commission for Africa (UNECA) (associate)
United Nations Economic Commission for Europe (UNECE)
United Nations Economic Commission for Latin America and the Caribbean (UNECLAC)
United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO)
United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR)
United Nations Industrial Development Organization (UNIDO)
United Nations Interim Administration Mission in Kosovo (UNMIK)
United Nations Iraq-Kuwait Observation Mission (UNIKOM)
United Nations Mission in Bosnia and Herzegovina (UNMIBH)
United Nations Mission in Liberia (UNMIL)
United Nations Mission in Sierra Leone (UNAMSIL)
United Nations Mission in the Democratic Republic of Congo (MONUC)
United Nations Mission in the Sudan (UNMIS)
United Nations Observer Mission in Georgia (UNOMIG)
United Nations Peacekeeping Force in Cyprus (UNFICYP)
United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA)
United Nations Security Council (UNSC) (permanent member)
United Nations Transitional Administration in East Timor (UNTAET)
United Nations University (UNU)
Universal Postal Union (UPU)
Western European Union (WEU)
World Confederation of Labour (WCL)
World Customs Organization (WCO)
World Federation of Trade Unions (WFTU)
World Health Organization (WHO)
World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO)
World Meteorological Organization (WMO)
World Organization of the Scout Movement
World Tourism Organization (UNWTO)
World Trade Organization (WTO)
World Veterans Federation
Zangger Committee (ZC)
Yeah, no doubt about it the UK is turning into a regular "Hermit Kingdom"...
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Has the UK said it would not accept the TTIP if it left the EU?

I think not.

Aspergers boy comes up with another blinding insight into his own stupidity.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”

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Nigel Farage, having fucked his country into a horrible dilemma, admits that he had no idea what he was doing and was lying about his main campaign promise. And resigns. "I fucked all of you and now you're screwed". Quite the lovely exit speech.



http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/05/world ... -news&_r=0
LONDON — He spent nearly 20 years pushing for Britain to leave the European Union, and having succeeded in his aim, he is now taking his leave.

Nigel Farage, the politician who probably did more than any other to force the referendum on British membership in the European Union, resigned on Monday as leader of the right-wing populist U.K. Independence Party, saying, “I’ve done my bit.”

Mr. Farage, 52, has quit the post before — twice. But on Monday he sounded as if he meant it this time, telling reporters that “my political ambition has been achieved” and that “I want my life back.”

But since the “Brexit” vote he has also been encouraged to quit by Arron Banks, the self-made insurance millionaire who has been a main funder of the party, known as UKIP, and of the unofficial Leave.EU campaign, and who sees the possibility of a more broadly based political party that can appeal to disaffected Labour voters.

Mr. Farage — brash, outspoken, loquacious and divisive, a commodities broker turned politician who loves widely striped suits and large glasses of beer — was probably not the man to lead the new party beyond its current limits. In a recent interview with the Financial Times over lunch, he consumed three pints of beer, half a bottle of wine and a glass of port.

But his push for a referendum, first as a member of the European Parliament and then as the leader of UKIP, arguing that Britain could manage immigration and regain full sovereignty only from outside the European Union, struck a deep chord with many Britons. It fed into the euroskeptic wing of the Conservative Party and made many Conservative legislators fear that UKIP would deny them an election victory in 2015.

In the end, UKIP got 13 percent of the vote but only one seat in Britain’s electoral system, and Mr. Cameron won a surprising majority. But he did so having promised this referendum, which he lost.

Even within UKIP, Mr. Farage was not universally loved. Internal critics complained of an inability to delegate, and his rivalry with the more cerebral Douglas Carswell, UKIP’s only member of Britain’s Parliament, developed into guerrilla warfare. On Monday, Mr. Carswell greeted Mr. Farage’s resignation announcement by posting on Twitter a smiling emoji wearing sunglasses.

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And we remain better than that. You really fucked the donkey this time and it will be decades before you can undo it.


English schoolchildren are fucked. They are shut out of the EU. They can't live and work anywhere they want (like everyone else can).


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We can't live an work anywhere we want either; are we similarly fucked?

I don't think so.

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Also I'm disturbed with all this talk of sex with animals and children. Has rubato jumped the shark? Lately.
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rubato wrote:Nigel Farage, having fucked his country into a horrible dilemma, admits that he had no idea what he was doing and was lying about his main campaign promise. And resigns. "I fucked all of you and now you're screwed". Quite the lovely exit speech.
Y0u really are clueless aren't you Aspergers boy? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Nigel Farage, having fucked his country into a horrible dilemma, admits that he had no idea what he was doing and was lying about his main campaign promise. And resigns. "I fucked all of you and now you're screwed". Quite the lovely exit speech.
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