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Check out this opinion piece penned by Gorsuch in 2002, decrying the politicization of the federal judicial nominee Senate approval process. He's a fucking hypocrite! If he had real integrity, he would have used the opportunity of his appointment ceremony to publicly decline and decry the refusal of the Senate to give a hearing and vote to Merrick Garland. He'd still have a great federal judicial seat with excellent lifelong benefits.

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http://www.upi.com/Justice-White-and-ju ... 020510343/
Justice White and judicial excellence

By NEIL GORSUCH, Special to UPI
May 4, 2002 at 7:05 AM

WASHINGTON, May 3 (UPI) -- In eulogizing Justice Byron White, Jack Miller, himself a lion of the bar, got it right. Quoting Shakespeare's Hamlet, Miller told the hundreds assembled that we "shall not look upon his like again."

Miller was right in two senses.

First and most obviously, Justice White accomplished more in one life than most could in three. He grew up on a sugar beet farm in the smallest of towns in Colorado, but finished first in his college class. At the same time, he led the NCAA in points scored -- 122 -- and all-purpose yards -- rushing, receiving, pass interceptions, as well as punt and kickoff returns.

U.S. Supreme Court Justice Byron White in his official portrait in 1976. Photo courtesy U.S. Supreme Court
Justice White set collegiate records that would stand over 50 years. He was the highest paid player of his day in the National Football League -- $15,000 a season in those days. But he was also a Rhodes scholar, a war hero, top of his class at Yale Law School, and a leading private practitioner.

As Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy's deputy at the Justice Department, Justice White defended the desegregation efforts of the "freedom riders" in Alabama. And then, of course, he served 31 years on the United States Supreme Court. As President John F. Kennedy remarked when announcing his nomination, Justice White excelled in everything he attempted.

There is another sense in which we shall not look upon the like of Justice White again. He was confirmed less than two weeks after his nomination; his hearing lasted 90 minutes.

He was selected not because of partisan ideology, but because of his integrity, accomplishment, and life experience. Justice White's subsequent tenure on the bench was characterized by an utter indifference to partisan agendas. He voted against Miranda warnings, against extending the First Amendment in novel ways to protect the media against meritorious libel charges, and against Roe vs. Wade.

At the same time, he voted for one-man, one-vote reforms, insisted on school desegregation even if it required raising taxes and busing, and supported Congress's use of racial preferences to remedy past discrimination.

If one theme ran through Justice White's jurisprudence, it was a confidence in the people's elected representatives, rather than the unelected judiciary, to experiment and solve society's problems, so long as the procedures used were fair and the opportunity to participate was open to all. But in each and every area, Justice White sought, as he put it often, to "decide the case," not to advance any ideology.

Despite his independence (or maybe because of it), many on both the left and right grudgingly came to respect the justice that they could never take for granted and whose vote they had to win in each and every case with their best legal arguments.

The judicial confirmation process today bears no resemblance to 1962.

Today, there are too many who are concerned less with promoting the best public servants and more with enforcing litmus tests and locating unknown "stealth candidates" who are perceived as likely to advance favored political causes once on the bench.

Politicians and pressure groups on both sides declare that they will not support nominees unless they hew to their own partisan creeds. When a favored candidate is voted down for lack of sufficient political sympathy to those in control, grudges are held for years, and retaliation is guaranteed.

Whatever else might be said about the process today, excellence plainly is no longer the dispositive virtue, as it was to President Kennedy.

The facts are undeniable. Today, half of the seats on the Sixth Circuit remain unfilled because of partisan bickering over ideological "control" of that circuit. The D.C. Circuit operates at just two-thirds strength. Almost 20 percent of the seats on the courts of appeals and nearly 100 judgeships nationwide are vacant. The administrative office of the U.S. Courts has declared 32 judicial vacancy "emergencies" in courts where filings are in excess of 600 cases per district judge or 700 cases per appellate panel.

Meanwhile, some of the most impressive judicial nominees are grossly mistreated. Take Merrick Garland and John Roberts, two appointees to the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Both were Supreme Court clerks. Both served with distinction at the Department of Justice. Both are widely considered to be among the finest lawyers of their generation. Garland, a Clinton appointee, was actively promoted by Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah. Roberts, a Bush nominee, has the backing of Seth Waxman, President Bill Clinton's solicitor general. But neither Garland nor Roberts has chosen to live his life as a shirker; both have litigated controversial cases involving "hot-button" issues.

As a result, Garland was left waiting for 18 months before being confirmed over the opposition of 23 senators. Roberts, nominated almost a year ago, still waits for a hearing -- and sees no end to the waiting in sight. In fact, this is the second time around for Roberts: he was left hanging without a vote by the Senate at the end of the first Bush administration. So much for promoting excellence in today's confirmation process.

Justice White's passing is a deep loss. He lived a full life in service of his country and the rule of law. When he retired in 1993, he commented that it was time for others "to have a like experience." It would be a beneficent thing if Justice White's passing served as a wake-up call to both political parties that their responsibility in picking judges is to help the nation find objectively excellent public servants, not to turn the process into an ideological food fight where the most able are mistreated while trimmers and the mediocre are rewarded.

Responsibility for the current morass does not rest with any one party or group; ample blame can be doled out all around. But litmus tests, grudge matches and payback are not the ways forward. Excellence is.

As Lloyd Cutler, White House counsel to President Clinton, explained in testimony to the Senate Judiciary Committee last year, "to make ideology an issue in the confirmation process is to suggest that the legal process is and should be a political one. That is not only wrong as a matter of political science; it also serves to weaken the public confidence in the courts."

Though we will never see the like of Justice White again, here's hoping we again see a time in which the excellence he so richly embodied serves as the essential standard for picking and confirming our nation's judges.

(Neil Gorsuch is a litigation partner at Kellogg, Huber, Hansen, Todd & Evans in Washington, and a former law clerk to White.)
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He has all the character and dignity of Mitt Romney. "this is the right thing but I'll do the other every time it pays better".


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Let me ask a question....

If Hillary Clinton had won the election, and rather than re-submit Garland for confirmation, she had instead decided to nominate a more "progressive" jurist...

Is there anyone here who would be saying, "Oh no, they should refuse to take the nomination, and instead make a speech about the Senate's failure to hold a vote on Merrick Garland"?

I'm going to go way out on a limb here and guess that the answer to that question is probably, "no"... ;)

I don't know enough about Gorsuch to say absolutely how I would vote on his nomination if I were in the Senate, (based on what I've heard so far you could probably mark me down as "leaning yes", but I want to see how he handles himself in his hearing...) but I definitely am not going to hold his willingness to accept the nomination against him.

He didn't have anything to do with what happened with Merrick Garland (who, BTW, knew the score when he accepted Obama's nomination) and I don't think it's appropriate to hold him (or any other potential nominee) in any way responsible...

The list of people who would decline a nomination to the Supreme Court, (right, left or center) is a very short one, and I don't view refusing to turn it down as a "character flaw"...
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This part amounts to a pretty good defense of Reid's use of the "nuclear option", as well as a pretty good argument for the confirmation of Merrick Garland :
  • Whatever else might be said about the process today, excellence plainly is no longer the dispositive virtue, as it was to President Kennedy.

    The facts are undeniable. Today, half of the seats on the Sixth Circuit remain unfilled because of partisan bickering over ideological "control" of that circuit. The D.C. Circuit operates at just two-thirds strength. Almost 20 percent of the seats on the courts of appeals and nearly 100 judgeships nationwide are vacant. The administrative office of the U.S. Courts has declared 32 judicial vacancy "emergencies" in courts where filings are in excess of 600 cases per district judge or 700 cases per appellate panel.

    Meanwhile, some of the most impressive judicial nominees are grossly mistreated. Take Merrick Garland and John Roberts, two appointees to the U.S. Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. Both were Supreme Court clerks. Both served with distinction at the Department of Justice. Both are widely considered to be among the finest lawyers of their generation. Garland, a Clinton appointee, was actively promoted by Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch of Utah. Roberts, a Bush nominee, has the backing of Seth Waxman, President Bill Clinton's solicitor general. But neither Garland nor Roberts has chosen to live his life as a shirker; both have litigated controversial cases involving "hot-button" issues.

If Trump really wanted to get his pick confirmed quickly he could have nominated Garland. (It would also have given a tremendous boost of optimism to anyone still hoping for bipartisanship and an end to the gridlock.)
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Why Liberals Should Back Neil Gorsuch

By NEAL K. KATYALJAN. 31, 2017

I am hard-pressed to think of one thing President Trump has done right in the last 11 days since his inauguration. Until Tuesday, when he nominated an extraordinary judge and man, Neil Gorsuch, to be a justice on the Supreme Court.

The nomination comes at a fraught moment. The new administration’s executive actions on immigration have led to chaos everywhere from the nation’s airports to the Department of Justice. They have raised justified concern about whether the new administration will follow the law. More than ever, public confidence in our system of government depends on the impartiality and independence of the courts.

There is a very difficult question about whether there should be a vote on President Trump’s nominee at all, given the Republican Senate’s history-breaking record of obstruction on Judge Merrick B. Garland — perhaps the most qualified nominee ever for the high court. But if the Senate is to confirm anyone, Judge Gorsuch, who sits on the United States Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit in Denver, should be at the top of the list.

I believe this, even though we come from different sides of the political spectrum. I was an acting solicitor general for President Barack Obama; Judge Gorsuch has strong conservative bona fides and was appointed to the 10th Circuit by President George W. Bush. But I have seen him up close and in action, both in court and on the Federal Appellate Rules Committee (where both of us serve); he brings a sense of fairness and decency to the job, and a temperament that suits the nation’s highest court.

Considerable doubts about the direction of the Supreme Court have emerged among Democrats in recent weeks, particularly given some of the names that have been floated by the administration for possible nomination. With environmental protection, reproductive rights, privacy, executive power and the rights of criminal defendants (including the death penalty) on the court’s docket, the stakes are tremendous. I, for one, wish it were a Democrat choosing the next justice. But since that is not to be, one basic criterion should be paramount: Is the nominee someone who will stand up for the rule of law and say no to a president or Congress that strays beyond the Constitution and laws?

I have no doubt that if confirmed, Judge Gorsuch would help to restore confidence in the rule of law. His years on the bench reveal a commitment to judicial independence — a record that should give the American people confidence that he will not compromise principle to favor the president who appointed him. Judge Gorsuch’s record suggests that he would follow in the tradition of Justice Elena Kagan, who voted against President Obama when she felt a part of the Affordable Care Act went too far. In particular, he has written opinions vigorously defending the paramount duty of the courts to say what the law is, without deferring to the executive branch’s interpretations of federal statutes, including our immigration laws.

In a pair of immigration cases, De Niz Robles v. Lynch and Gutierrez-Brizuela v. Lynch, Judge Gorsuch ruled against attempts by the government to retroactively interpret the law to disfavor immigrants. In a separate opinion in Gutierrez-Brizuela, he criticized the legal doctrine that federal courts must often defer to the executive branch’s interpretations of federal law, warning that such deference threatens the separation of powers designed by the framers. When judges defer to the executive about the law’s meaning, he wrote, they “are not fulfilling their duty to interpret the law.” In strong terms, Judge Gorsuch called that a “problem for the judiciary” and “a problem for the people whose liberties may now be impaired” by “an avowedly politicized administrative agent seeking to pursue whatever policy whim may rule the day.” That reflects a deep conviction about the role of the judiciary in preserving the rule of law.

That conviction will serve the court and the country well. Last week, The Denver Post encouraged the president to nominate Judge Gorsuch in part because “a justice who does his best to interpret the Constitution or statute and apply the law of the land without prejudice could go far to restore faith in the highest court of the land.”

I couldn’t agree more. Right about now, the public could use some reassurance that no matter how chaotic our politics become, the members of the Supreme Court will uphold the oath they must take: to “administer justice without respect to persons, and do equal right to the poor and to the rich.” I am confident Neil Gorsuch will live up to that promise.

Neal K. Katyal, an acting solicitor general in the Obama administration, is a law professor at Georgetown and a partner at Hogan Lovells.
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I had a class with Professor Katyal 16 years ago at GULC; it was a seminar course on the Clinton impeachment debacle. Monica Lewinsky spoke at one class session.

He's a decent human being and a smart lawyer and I have confidence in his opinion, BUT - it's still entirely unfair that a very qualified moderate jurist like Garland was blocked from hearing/confirmation.

The right thing would have been for Trump to renew Garland's nomination and encourage the Rs to confirm; I suspect had he done so he would have seen a couple of justices retire within the first year of his term.

As it is, I am praying fervently for the good health and continued commitment of Ginsburg and Kennedy.

I'm even going to start attending church again to hedge my bets! :lol: (I'm a Bishop Spong-inspired Episcopalian, so for whatever that's worth.)
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I've reluctantly decided that the Democrats in the Senate should NOT filibuster Gorsuch...but they also should NOT vote for him. Let the Republicans have their 52-48 victory. But if Trump should have occasion to fill a Supreme Court vacancy at any time on or after, say, March 16, 2018 (to pick a date at random ;) ) then, *THEN* they should do everything possible to delay a vote until after January 3, 2019. Because, you know, the American people need to weigh in, and they’ll do that in November.
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BoSoxGal wrote:I had a class with Professor Katyal 16 years ago at GULC; it was a seminar course on the Clinton impeachment debacle. Monica Lewinsky spoke at one class session.
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Man, this smells like fake news. It appears to be unverified so I'm looking at it having a high bull shit factor.
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Supreme Court nominee Gorsuch calls Trump's tweets 'disheartening'

Washington (CNN)Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch told a US senator Wednesday that President Donald Trump's tweets about the judiciary are "demoralizing" and "disheartening."

In a meeting with Connecticut Democratic Sen. Richard Blumenthal, Gorsuch, who's largely been silent since Trump nominated him last week, took exception to Trump calling a federal judge in Seattle a "so-called judge" after blocking the President's travel ban.

"He said very specifically that they were demoralizing and disheartening and he characterized them very specifically that way," Blumenthal said of Gorsuch. "I said they were more than disheartening and I said to him that he has an obligation to make his views clear to the American people, so they understand how abhorrent or unacceptable President Trump's attacks on the judiciary are."

Ron Bonjean, who is leading communications for Gorsuch during the confirmation process, confirmed Gorsuch called Trump's tweet about the "so-called judge" "disheartening" and "demoralizing" in his conversation with Blumenthal.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/08/politics/ ... mp-tweets/

Now Trump will probably either withdraw his nomination, or at least start attacking him...
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Now Trump will probably either withdraw his nomination, or at least start attacking him
Even more predictably, LJ, he's attacking Blumenthal. Blumenthal of course exaggerated his service in the Marines (he claimed for years to have served in Vietnam but his service was domestic only) but he was at least spared those pesky bone spurs which prevented Trump from joining up. As we know, Trump sacrificed elsewhere.

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He is going after McCain this morning too. I wish the Republicans would get some backbone and stand up for one of their senior Senators, and a genuine war hero, who even Democrats respect and look up too. But not the King Trumpanzee. To him, McCain is just another "looser."

And I wish McCain's backbone would extend to crossing over and voting against some of the worst of the cabinet nominees, Tillerson in particular. Unfortunately, he has voted 100% party line.
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If Gorsuch is qualified he should be brought to a vote and the Democrats should vote for him.

Anything else wastes effort and energy that might be productive else where and does not move us closer to the goal. Also, it erodes the moral claim that the Republican's tactics were swinish and shameful.

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If Gorsuch is qualified he should be brought to a vote and the Democrats should vote for him.
It is mostly a done deal at this point. Besides, Gorsuch has already proven he's not in lock-step with Lord Dampnut. The Dems should settle on this Justice and brace themselves for the next battle.
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I normally wouldn't quote The Daily Kos around here, but this is just too good not to pass along:
  • Trump and McConnell inadvertently make the rock solid case for NOT confirming Supreme Court nominee

    Let’s flashback to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s comments on the floor of the United States Senate on March 2, 2016:
    • “The current Senate Democratic Leader once stated that ‘nowhere in [the Constitution] does it say the Senate has a duty to give presidential nominees a vote.’ The incoming Senate Democratic Leader did not even wait until the final year of the last President’s term to declare that the Senate should ‘not confirm a Supreme Court nominee except in extraordinary circumstances.’

      “And we all know what Vice President Biden said when he chaired the Judiciary Committee. ‘It would be our pragmatic conclusion that once the political season is under way, and it is, action on a Supreme Court nomination must be put off until after the election campaign is over.’

    Emphasis added and here’s why: Donald Trump announced a rally in Florida to take place tomorrow, Saturday, February 18, 2017 at the Orlando-Melbourne International Airport. (Click here to get free tickets and let Donald Trump see you in person.) He apparently misses the throngs of adoring fans at his campaign rallies and is trying to reignite his fan base. Here’s the rub: yesterday White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer admitted this isn’t a presidential event, it is a campaign rally.


    Spicer repeatedly called it a "campaign event." That means Donald Trump’s 2020 re-election campaign will officially be underway tomorrow at the Orlando-Melbourne International Airport. And per Mitch McConnell and Republican leadership, “once the political season is under way, and it is, action on a Supreme Court nomination must be put off until after the election campaign is over.”

    Sorry, Judge Neil Gorsuch. Please step to the side and take a seat next to Judge Merrick Garland. After all, the American people deserve to have their say in the next election.
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Back in the early 1970s during the days of VietNam, Walter Cronkite, and campus unrest there once rose an organization that was tasked with ensuring that the current seated POTUS, who was in the middle of his first term in office, would successfully gain his party's nomination and eventual re-election to a second term in office.  This group, dedicated to the re-election of one Richard Milhous Nixon, was known as the 'Committee to Re-elect the President', or CRP for short.

These people and their candidate, however, ended up giving us the images of a DC hotel, "plumbers", Congressional investigations, stone walls, and a haggard, hunted, hang-jowled politician decrying all the hubbub over what he himself described as "a second-rate burglary" and secretly-recorded tapes — both with and without mysterious gaps — of conversations in the Oval Office between the POTUS and others; and it was for good reason that many people began referring to this committee by the alternate acronym of CREEP.

I just have to say that no matter how sleazy America's 37th President — and need I remind you that he too was the standard-bearer for the GOP? — might have been, or what indiscretions his re-election campaign committee may have committed and for what purposes, it doesn't begin to hold a candle to what our 45th President has already done during the run-up to his inauguration and the first four weeks of his administration.  And now his handlers have announced that "the campaign" — and by that I can only assume they mean a re-election campaign (although it could be construed as a "try to stave off impeachment" campaign) — is intending to hold an airport 'rally' later today, less than 31 days into Mr. Trump's tenure in office.

I predict now that should Trump somehow weather the storms that are sure to plague the majority of his term and does harbor intentions to attempt to win a second term in the White House the appropriately-fitting acronym of CREEP and comparisons to the antics of "Tricky Dickie" will once again be in the headlines and on the lips of the media, the political pundits, and the general public like never before.
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