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Tillerson called Trump a ‘moron’ and nearly resigned amid clashes

Secretary of State Rex Tillerson referred to President Trump as a “moron” after a July 20 meeting at the Pentagon — and was on the verge of resigning amid clashes with the administration, according to a report on Wednesday.

Vice President Mike Pence managed to persuade Tillerson — who is fourth in line to the presidency — to remain in the job at least until the end of the year, officials told NBC News.

Pence has since urged Tillerson to be respectful of the president, urging that any disagreements be sorted out in-house, a White House official told NBC News.

Tensions between Tillerson and Team Trump came to a boil around the time the president delivered a politicized address to the Boy Scouts of America, which Tillerson led for two years, according to the network.

A few days before the speech, Tillerson openly disparaged Trump as a “moron” during a meeting with members of his national security team and cabinet members, three officials told NBC News.

Officials said the administration, which has been buffeted by a series of top-level firings and resignations, would have struggled to cope with the fallout from a cabinet member of Tillerson’s stature quitting so early in the presidency.

But despite the apparent rapprochement, tensions persist between the two men — notably this weekend, when Trump appeared to publicly scold Tillerson over his handling of North Korean crisis.

NBC News interviewed a dozen current and former senior administration officials for its report, as well as others who are close to Trump.

Tillerson — who was in Texas for his son’s wedding when Trump addressed the Boy Scouts — threatened not to return to Washington, three people with direct knowledge of the threats told NBC News.

He stood down after speaking with retired Gen. John Kelly, who would soon replace Reince Priebus as chief of staff, and Defense Secretary James Mattis, four sources told the network.

Pence then gave Tillerson a “pep talk” in Washington, one of these officials said, but also told the secretary that he had to figure out a way to move forward within Trump’s policy framework.

Kelly and Mattis have remained Tillerson’s staunchest allies in the cabinet.

In late July, “they did beg him to stay,” a senior administration official told NBC News. “They just wanted stability.”

The White House declined to comment on the record for the report.
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He denies this report, of course.

eta: Actually, he only specifically denied considering resignation - is that a de facto admission that he called Trump a moron? Maybe . . .
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Tillerson won’t say whether he thinks Trump is a ‘moron.’ But he’s not quitting!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/pl ... 5f61715dc9
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Yeah, moron...
Trump Wanted Tenfold Increase in Nuclear Arsenal, Surprising Military

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump said he wanted what amounted to a nearly tenfold increase in the U.S. nuclear arsenal during a gathering this past summer of the nation’s highest ranking national security leaders, according to three officials who were in the room.

Trump’s comments, the officials said, came in response to a briefing slide he was shown that charted the steady reduction of U.S. nuclear weapons since the late 1960s. Trump indicated he wanted a bigger stockpile, not the bottom position on that downward-sloping curve.

According to the officials present, Trump’s advisers, among them the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, were surprised. Officials briefly explained the legal and practical impediments to a nuclear buildup and how the current military posture is stronger than it was at the height of the build-up. In interviews, they told NBC News that no such expansion is planned.

The July 20 meeting was described as a lengthy and sometimes tense review of worldwide U.S. forces and operations. It was soon after the meeting broke up that officials who remained behind heard Tillerson say that Trump is a “moron.”
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Or maroon, if you prefer.

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Dolt 45
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:funee:
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Econoline wrote:Dolt 45
"Alt" licker?
GAH!

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Econoline wrote:Dolt 45
That’s damn good Econoline, I’m likely to steal that phrase. :lol:
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:ok Go ahead and steal it, Beer Sponge and everyone else! I stole it from someone else (I forget who); I think it's great and have been doing my best to spread it around far and wide.
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“I met with the president of the Virgin Islands,” Trump said this morning, completely unaware that he is the President of the Virgin Islands.
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What do you expect? He doesn't think Puerto Ricans are US Citizens either.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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Just saw another good one online: IQ45 :lol:
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