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Ya think?

personally, I think someone else is pulling his strings (as he does not have the intellect for political strategy) and are trying to divide the democrats and paint them as dangerous radicals by these idiotic remarks; the more the democrats complain, the more his supporters say "See" and the less the more centrist candidates will be listened to.

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Big RR wrote:... personally, I think someone else is pulling his strings (as he does not have the intellect for political strategy)...
I suspect it's the idiot court jester who is pulling many of the immigration strings on the puppet king.

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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Trump reminds me of that old Milton Berle bit, where Berle would walk out on stage and raise one hand to gesture for the audience to stop applauding, while with his other hand he'd be gesturing for them to applaud louder...
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This is not a political campaign "strategy," it's merely a recycling of KKK sloganeering -- every bit as unsophisticated and brutish as the original and not even given much of an update:

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"Integration" and "immigration" are virtually synonymous in this context as signifying the racial/ethnic "other," and linked to "communism" to produce the idea that "radical leftists" (be afraid!) are bringing minorities (be VERY afraid!) who hate America (start panicking!) to take away your white privilege freedumb (PANIC!!!!)!!!11!!1!!! Love it or leave it, you commie dark-skinned heathens!!!!!!11!11!!!1w23423wr%%##

Trump and the GOP want to run against "Socialism" in 2020, but that's not scary enough by itself anymore now that people are starting to figure out that "socialism" means actually having healthcare and higher education available to everyone and also too maybe not destroying our planet in the service of rich people getting obscenely richer. They know they're not going to get enough votes from the "middle" of the electorate, so they are riding the tiger of explicit racism to gin up the troglodyte base and motivate the "white nationalists" to crawl out from under their rocks and vote Republican for Racism.

At their core, the attacks on Omar, AOC, Tlaib and Pressley are intended to stoke fear in rural white male voters that they are losing status and power to furrin Moose-limbed women from Not-America, and Lord only knows what those people will do to you and your precious babby Jebus (it is cut your heads off, of course, and by "heads" I mean "peckers").

It's not subtle in the least, but it's about what I'd expect from the "stable genius" and his truly loathsome minions.

Gah.
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Small Town News:
This Opinion piece comes courtesy of a local/regional newspaper -- the Delco Times. I feel it's well written and sums up the havoc that Trump will continue to wreak until he is stopped. Hopefully, sooner than later.

Delaware County PA has been a bastion of RED politics since the mid to late 19th century, and only recently started to see some BLUE moving in. For the most part I'm posting this so you can see the readers comments which plainly shows how loyal the ignorant masses remain to their Boiled Ham in a Wig.

Sadly, a few of these blinded followers make some sense, regardless how distasteful. If the Dems fail to rally around the chosen nominee by July 16, 2020 then Boss Tweet will have a lock on yet another term to further damage our democracy.

And God bless America.

Forget the tweets; Trump is destroying the gov't
https://www.delcotimes.com/opinion/jodi ... eac2d.html
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"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't know you're picking his pocket.  Hell, give him someone to look down on and he'll empty his pockets for you."
Who said it and when?  I'll check back tomorrow.
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Sounds pure LBJ to me, probably during the civil rights act debates.
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I agree with Guin: all the way with LBJ. I'll look it up; but I'm sure I've read that somewhere before.

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Bicycle Bill wrote:
"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't know you're picking his pocket.  Hell, give him someone to look down on and he'll empty his pockets for you."
Who said it and when?  I'll check back tomorrow.
Would that be the Grifter-in-Chief's good friend, Frederick Douglass?
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Yes - I just checked. Douglass after the Bowling Green Massacre. So sad.

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ex-khobar Andy wrote:Yes - I just checked. Douglass after the Bowling Green Massacre. So sad.
Ah, ha! That black studies program I was immersed in over thirty years ago has finally paid off. I'm a regular Einstein.

FYI... some of my best friends are black.
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Guinevere is correct ... it was LBJ.
But it wasn't part of any policy speech.  It comes from an article written by Bill Moyers and published in the Washington Post on November 13, 1988.  In the article, Moyers relates an incident that occurred in Tennessee in 1960.

Johnson had seen some ugly racial epithets scrawled on signs during a motorcade.  Later that night in the hotel, when the local dignitaries had finished the last bottles of bourbon and branch water and departed, LBJ started talking with Moyers about those signs.  “I’ll tell you what’s at the bottom of it,” he said (according to Moyers).  “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket.  Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”
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Bicycle Bill wrote:Guinevere is correct ... it was LBJ...
What... does that mean I was wrong? Damn! x-kA must have been messin' with my head, again.

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"If you don't have a seat at the table, you're on the menu."

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From SF author/astrophysicist/futurist David Brin's "Contrary Brin" blog:
  • Our disunity is the enemy's goal. And now we see op-ed pieces trying to stir up drama, declaring: "Why Democrats Are So Far From Consensus on 2020." On social media you see suspicious-looking denunciations of "corporatist" or "republican-lite" or "sellout" moderate democrats. Cherrypicking points of dissension, incitement merchants posit that the 25 Democratic presidential candidates share only a loathing of Donald Trump. Their followers will soon fraction into factions.

    Let's demolish that nonsense. Here again is my list of consensus items that ALL of the Democratic candidates are for.

    * Electoral reform: end gerrymandering, rigged voting machines, voter suppression and other cheats,
    * Election money transparency,
    * Restore our alliances.
    * Deter acts of war (cyber/electoral/trade etc.) against our nation/institutions,
    * End "supply side" vampirism by the aristocracy we rebelled against in 1776,
    * Infrastructure, paid fo by ending supply side voodoo,
    * DACA,
    * Children out of cages, refugees given safe places to live and process,
    * A Marshall Plan for Central America + holding their corrupt elites accountable,
    * Medicare For All Children (a start so popular the GOP can’t dare refuse),
    * Climate action,
    * Restore science, R&D and technological leadership as national strengths.
    * Consumer protection, empower the Consumer Financial Protection Board.
    * At least allow student debt refinancing. Analyze and start doing much more.
    * Restore the postal savings bank for the un-banked,
    * Basic, efficient, universal background checks,
    * Basic-level Net Neutrality for consumers,
    * A revised-throttled War Powers Act and limit presidential emergency powers,
    * Civil Service protection,
    * Restored respect for things called facts. Support professions that use them,
    * Restored rebuttal rules on "news" channels,
    * Emoluments supervision. AUDIT the cheating, money-laundering oligarchy,
    * Ease out of the damned drug war (at least don’t impede states),
    * Anti-trust breakup of monopoly/duopolies,
    * Allow pharma renegotiation and stop the tricks that stymie generics,
    * Restore some of the social contract set up by the FDR-loving "Greatest Generation" (GG),

    Anyone who shouts "socialism!" at that list is screaming at our parents, the GGs who crushed Hitler, contained Stalinism, took us to the moon, loved science and built the world's greatest middle class.

    All democrats, almost all independents and a whole lot of RASRs [Brin's acronym for "Residually Adult-Sane Republican"] want all of those things, and more! And if you think not, show us the Democrats opposing any of those things! Better yet, look at the last time the Dems had power to legislate, just two years (2009-2011) out of the last 26, when those "corporatist" dems were frenetically busy! Look at California and New York, where they've had more time. This "corporatist" malarkey comes right out of a Kremlin basement.

    Are there disagreements over the vigor and/or degree various democrats would push these desiderata? Sure! Plenty of demo pols would only travel along these roads halfway as far as you would go, especially in the last six items. And "Medicare for everyone under age 26" won't satisfy you liberals... nor should it!

    But if you can't see that the nation and the world would be in a vastly better place, if we spent the first 2 years of power just checking off everything this list, then you are the problem.

    Want more than that list? Your chances will be better if we first get all that! And that will come by uniting a wide coalition. After? Then split! Gather your AOC/Bernie forces for further battle. At least you'll be fighting in a nation and world that again respects facts and justice and loves the future.
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