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Re: Election 2020

Postby ex-khobar Andy » Sat Nov 02, 2019 6:52 pm

Econoline wrote:
Warren ............. 22.3
Buttigieg ........... 17.0
Biden ............... 15.7
Sanders ............ 15.3[/size]



I think it's going to be Warren. Biden and Sanders (much as I like Sanders especially) are just too old. Yes they have the smarts but come on. The country isn't ready for a gay President. I want someone who, more than any other criterion, will beat Trump. If I were voting in a Trump Buttigieg race I'd of course go for Buttigieg in a heart beat but I suspect that a lot of potential D voters would sit on their hands.

Sanders is going to have to face all the Pocahontas stuff and to some extent she deserves it: it looks as if, at some point, she may have looked to that for some sort of leg up. I know how that works: an HR department is desperate for some diversity points to show that they don't discriminate and will take anything and encourage employees to check boxes where they might otherwise hesitate. if that's the worst thing she's done in her life she's pretty blameless. Biden, for example, plagiarized a speech by Neil Kinnock (UK Labour leader in the 80s) during his presidential run in 1988 - no-one is perfect. And of course in comparison to Trump's activities over the course of any given week, their lifetimes are boringly bland.
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Re: Election 2020

Postby Crackpot » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:25 pm

They said the same thing about Obama but unlike Obama we probably already had a gay president.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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Postby RayThom » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:42 pm

Crackpot wrote:They said the same thing about Obama but unlike Obama we probably already had a gay president.

But openly gay -- with a husband? There's the rub.

It's the elephant in the room for voters over fifty. Regardless, I'm sticking with Pete until the primaries.

Warren/Buttigieg 2020.
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Re: Election 2020

Postby Joe Guy » Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:14 pm

I think a lot of people would be concerned with having a gay president. People would worry that he would surround himself with gay advisors and spend most of his time redecorating the White House instead of doing presidential things like keeping Mexicans from storming our southern border and taking our jobs.

It would be different if Buttigieg was more like Obama. Obama was half white. If Buttigieg was half gay, then he would get a lot more votes.
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Postby RayThom » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:27 pm

Joe Guy wrote:I think a lot of people would be concerned with having a gay president. People would worry that he would surround himself with gay advisors and spend most of his time redecorating the White House instead of doing presidential things like keeping Mexicans from storming our southern border and taking our jobs.

It would be different if Buttigieg was more like Obama. Obama was half white. If Buttigieg was half gay, then he would get a lot more votes.

It is this type of clarity and insight that I find myself lacking on the important issues of the day.

I always leave this forum enlightened.

Thanks, JG.
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Re: Election 2020

Postby Scooter » Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:46 pm

White privilege is a thing.

What goes on in a woman's uterus is none of your fucking business.

Equal rights for others does not mean less rights for you. It's not pie.
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Re: Election 2020

Postby Big RR » Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:49 pm

If Buttigieg was half gay, then he would get a lot more votes.


Do you think it might make a difference if it was his top half or bottom half?
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Postby RayThom » Tue Dec 03, 2019 6:54 pm

Scooter wrote:Harris is out.

She held on longer than I expected.

I hope this will send a signal to many of the others who are struggling to be heard. There's no shame in dropping out -- it will be the right thing to do.

Bloomberg/Warren... 2020
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Re: Election 2020

Postby Sue U » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:02 pm

Scooter wrote:Harris is out.


I am disappoint.

But clears the deck for Warren.
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Re: Election 2020

Postby wesw » Tue Dec 03, 2019 7:55 pm

she had that cncussi0n syndrome.....

t00 many headb0ards b0unced 0ff her head 0n her way t0 the t0p....
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Re: Election 2020

Postby Big RR » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:04 pm

Sue U wrote:
Scooter wrote:Harris is out.


I am disappoint.

But clears the deck for Warren.


She wasn't my first choice among the pack, but she wasn't my last either. Let's hope she stays involved; we need to pull all the stops out in this election to get a new president elected.

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Re: Election 2020

Postby Joe Guy » Tue Dec 03, 2019 9:44 pm

Big RR wrote:
If Buttigieg was half gay, then he would get a lot more votes.


Do you think it might make a difference if it was his top half or bottom half?


That's an excellent question. However, I have no idea how to answer it. Kamala Harris might have some insight. She's half something and half something else.
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Postby RayThom » Tue Dec 03, 2019 10:28 pm

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Re: Election 2020

Postby MGMcAnick » Tue Dec 03, 2019 11:34 pm

A lady I knew years ago had a pen pal who lived in Tasmania. They started as Jr High kids and were still corresponding into their 60s. She's 94 now.

They occasionally shared recipes. At one point, an American recipe called for half and half.

The return letter asked "half what, and half what else"?
A friend of Doc's.
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Re: Election 2020

Postby BoSoxGal » Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:01 am

wesw wrote:she had that cncussi0n syndrome.....

t00 many headb0ards b0unced 0ff her head 0n her way t0 the t0p....

More proof troll's o key works - and that troll is a repugnant scumbag.
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Re: Election 2020

Postby Scooter » Wed Dec 04, 2019 1:21 am

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What goes on in a woman's uterus is none of your fucking business.

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Re: Election 2020

Postby Sue U » Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:44 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
GAH!
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Re: Election 2020

Postby Lord Jim » Wed Dec 04, 2019 10:45 am

Harris had a couple of big splash moments that gave her a boost, (she may have had the best campaign rollout of any of the Democratic candidates) and tons of positive soft-ball coverage in the liberal mainstream media, but for whatever reason her show didn't seem to wear well day-in day-out on the campaign trail, and she could never parlay her "big moments" into sustained poll numbers...

One of her "big moments" that gave her campaign an immediate bump may have done more damage than good for her; her debate confrontation with Biden...

Turns out Democratic voters didn't see whether Biden had supported both court ordered busing and DOJ ordered busing or only court ordered busing in 1975 to be an issue of burning importance...(Imagine that...)

She also had huge problems finding her footing on how to deal with Mandatory Medicare for all, repeatedly changing her position, (at first she was a co-signer and supporter of Sanders bill, then she switched to saying she'd allow private companies to provide "supplemental" insurance, and finally she would up with the moderate-liberal "medicare for All Who Want It" position....)

clears the deck for Warren.


Gosh, I hope that's wrong...

As one who sees the defeat of Donald Trump as an existential imperative, I would hate to see the Dems nominate one of the two candidates in the field (the other of course being Sanders) least likely to be able to reassemble the broad coalition that delivered control of the House to the Dems in 2018 and without which they cannot prevail in 2020.
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Re: Election 2020

Postby Big RR » Wed Dec 04, 2019 3:55 pm

I don't know, I'd put the loon Williamson well ahead of them; also Yang and Castro (if he's still in it).
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Re: Election 2020

Postby Lord Jim » Wed Dec 04, 2019 4:18 pm

Well, I was talking about candidates that could actually conceivably get the nomination...

That would not include Williamson or Yang (who might actually have a better chance of winning then Warren or Sanders) or the Useful Idiot Tulsi Gabbard...
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