Terrorist Blonde Woman Rams ICE Vehicle!!

[Big RR]

[Does the hypocrisy of the left know no limits? Suddenly all the liberals on this site have turned into strong supporters of states’ rights. What happened to the idea that the federal government is supreme and that local governments must meekly submit?

Again, I don't know what "the left" is but, sinc e you quoted me before posting this, I will always support any entity that stands against a government, any government, trying to curtail individual rights, and I will always support anyone who opposes an imperial executive who ignores the law and tries to enforce his/her will by force. IMHO, it doesn't matter who the executive is or even if congress acquiesces. Indeed, our republic works this way and has states and federal governments with powers for a reason. No hypocrisy there, just defense if freedom and from "tough guys" who think they have the power to do whatever they want. But the hypocrisy you show is that you're more than happy to let the foc investigate the hen house, and the findings to be politically influenced. I'd love it if we had an apolitical FBI that would d a fair and open investigation, but pumpkinhead has seen to it that we do not.

[BoSoxGal]

[BoSoxGal]

He murdered her not because he was afraid, but because she wasn't.

[Sue U]

He murdered her not because he was afraid, but because she wasn't.

Exactly.

[Joe Guy]

In the meantime Trump has threatened to attack Iranian government agents for killing people who are protesting against them, while at home he and his minions are justifying ICE agents' killing of protesters for protesting against them.

[BoSoxGal]

US Border Agents Intentionally Stepped in Front of Moving Vehicles to Justify Shooting at Them

[ex-khobar Andy]

Looking at the picture of the agents in their Terminator gear in BSG's link (forgive me - I am not up on Superheroes and I may have picked the wrong one) - where exactly are they? They are motoring along the border wall: I suppose the wall must be a few yards into the US so that the road they are on is actually US territory. The wall is impenetrable, otherwise what is its point? So if they get into bother, where can they run to? Inquiring minds want to know. Those ATVs look cool. Are their training videos action movies? That would explain a lot.

[liberty]

He murdered her not because he was afraid, but because she wasn't.

Well, I saw an ICE agent bounce off the fender of her car. She did strike a federal agent.

[liberty]

a. lib, you don't even understand that you appear to be a racist, much less someone else
b. what you quote below is total bullshit. Watch the damn videos and stop spouting Trump and his Mar-a-Lago-Face co-conspirators. The woman never drove her car "at people".

When you write "The reason I posted this anonymously is that I’m not sure about the ethical ground I’m standing on etc.. I read something in the rules about not referring to other sites, so I couldn’t share anything like that", it is balderdash. You read no such thing. You know full well that other sites are quoted AND linked here over and over again. You should just admit that you don't know, don't want to know, and refuse to learn how to link material. Copy and paste is all you have - OK. We get that. But a "normal guy" would have seen the videos and not posted utter falsehoods.

And you "feel confident he’s not an extremist" when he posts such obvious lies and you pretend to yourself and the rest of Trump-world that extremists who post lies are always truthful in declaring that they are not extremists.

And you don’t understand, then I don’t care what people perceive. I don’t jump through hoops for anyone, and I’m not going to buy your pseudo‑metaphorical dictionary to make sure I use the ‘correct’ language. I don’t try to insult anyone; I just try to use the best language I can. If you all want to go around changing the language, that’s your problem. I don’t care much for overly sensitive people. I don’t use metaphors; I consider them to be for the weak. Death is death, and cognitive impairment is cognitive impairment. ‘Retardo’ is an insult, but ‘retardation’ refers to an unfortunate and sad reality.

And by the way, if I had to choose between the shitheads of the world and the retarded, I would go with the retarded. I find them to be much sweeter people, far better than the rotting infestation some So called people have become

[liberty]

[Does the hypocrisy of the left know no limits? Suddenly all the liberals on this site have turned into strong supporters of states’ rights. What happened to the idea that the federal government is supreme and that local governments must meekly submit?

Again, I don't know what "the left" is but, sinc e you quoted me before posting this, I will always support any entity that stands against a government, any government, trying to curtail individual rights, and I will always support anyone who opposes an imperial executive who ignores the law and tries to enforce his/her will by force. IMHO, it doesn't matter who the executive is or even if congress acquiesces. Indeed, our republic works this way and has states and federal governments with powers for a reason. No hypocrisy there, just defense if freedom and from "tough guys" who think they have the power to do whatever they want. But the hypocrisy you show is that you're more than happy to let the foc investigate the hen house, and the findings to be politically influenced. I'd love it if we had an apolitical FBI that would d a fair and open investigation, but pumpkinhead has seen to it that we do not.

Does that include the Viet Cong? And yes, I’m being Facetious; I already know the answer.

[liberty]

[Does the hypocrisy of the left know no limits? Suddenly all the liberals on this site have turned into strong supporters of states’ rights. What happened to the idea that the federal government is supreme and that local governments must meekly submit?

Again, I don't know what "the left" is but, sinc e you quoted me before posting this, I will always support any entity that stands against a government, any government, trying to curtail individual rights, and I will always support anyone who opposes an imperial executive who ignores the law and tries to enforce his/her will by force. IMHO, it doesn't matter who the executive is or even if congress acquiesces. Indeed, our republic works this way and has states and federal governments with powers for a reason. No hypocrisy there, just defense if freedom and from "tough guys" who think they have the power to do whatever they want. But the hypocrisy you show is that you're more than happy to let the foc investigate the hen house, and the findings to be politically influenced. I'd love it if we had an apolitical FBI that would d a fair and open investigation, but pumpkinhead has seen to it that we do not.

In the context of immigration, ‘the left’ refers to people who are not politically moderate or conservative, and who support very high levels of immigration. My concern is that unlimited immigration could eventually damage the quality of life, expand the poor population to the point where the government can no longer maintain the welfare system, and leave it unable to pay the workers who care for people who cannot care for themselves. In that scenario, you could end up with mentally disabled people wandering the streets looking for food in garbage cans; the Social Security system overwhelmed; and the entire safety net collapsing. It makes you wonder whether this outcome is intentional, or simply a failure to think ahead.

[Joe Guy]

Well, I saw an ICE agent bounce off the fender of her car. She did strike a federal agent.

Please link the video that shows the ICE agent bouncing off the fender of her car.

I haven't seen that one.

[liberty]

Well, I saw an ICE agent bounce off the fender of her car. She did strike a federal agent.

Please link the video that shows the ICE agent bouncing off the fender of her car.

I haven't seen that one.

I’ll try, but I can’t guarantee anything. Even though I’m finally retired, I still don’t seem to have the time to do the things I planned to do. I stay constantly busy right up until I go to bed.

[Crackpot]

In other words he believes the what he heard not his lying eyes.

[liberty]

In other words he believes the what he heard not his lying eyes.

I saw it on CBS Evening News, and you could have seen it too if you wanted to. They showed another view, this time from the front. When she turned and sped up, she turned the wheels, and it appeared that she clipped the agent with the front fender, spinning him around. From the rear view, you can see him spinning around and limping afterward.

I imagine that’s not what you would want to see. What you want is a Boston Massacre–type jump to outrage, and hopefully an excuse to overthrow the government. It’s the same thing you wanted in the 1960s and 1970s. I know I’m being somewhat provocative here, but that’s the way I see it.

Why do you want to overrun the country with legal and illegal immigrants? Surely you know that this has damaged, among other things, the Social Security system. Don’t you believe in a Social Security system? And you’re going to say that undocumented immigrants don’t collect Social Security; well, they do when they become citizens, regardless of how little they paid in.

[Joe Guy]

...I saw it on CBS Evening News, and you could have seen it too if you wanted to. They showed another view, this time from the front. When she turned and sped up, she turned the wheels, and it appeared that she clipped the agent with the front fender, spinning him around. From the rear view, you can see him spinning around and limping afterward.....

Watch and listen to this and see if you come to the same conclusion....

[Bicycle Bill]

And you’re going to say that undocumented immigrants don’t collect Social Security; well, they do when they become citizens, regardless of how little they paid in.

It is my understanding that how much someone gets in their Social Security payment depends on a combination of factors, including how many qualifying quarters of employment they have and the highest three years of wages received over that qualifying period.   So if you've got undocumented workers with a fake/stolen Social Security number working for peanuts (and having taxes and FICA payments withheld from those chicken-shit wages), just how much money do you think they're going to be able to collect when and if they do become naturalized citizens and they reach the age at which they can file for benefits?

And for that matter, if they DO become naturalized citizens and get a genuine SSN all their own, what happens to monies that have been withheld from their checks for federal and state taxes and to fund Social Security under those bogus SSNs?   Sounds to me like that's free money paid in to the US Treasury as well as the state...  money that they couldn't claim before because they had a illegitimate SSN — and I don't believe anyone, not even you and your MAGA compadres, is stupid enough to try to claim an income tax refund or SSN payment using an ersatz SSN — and money that they can't claim now because their fresh, new SSN will no longer match the number they had been using.

-"BB"-

[MajGenl.Meade]

Things that never happened:

she clipped the agent with the front fender, spinning him around. From the rear view, you can see him spinning around and limping afterward.

And there's further video showing him walking quite normally along the road toward the by now crashed car. Not limping. Not horribly run over, no miracle that he survived, no horrible attack that Trump and his Nattering Nabobs of Noem keep lying about.

[Big RR]

I don't see it either, but even assuming she brushed him with her car, it did not justify the killing. Maybe she was wrong in trying to drive away (then again, I d not think ICE has any arrest power over US citizens, so I'm not sure), but nothing she did warranted being killed.

[BoSoxGal]