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Next time your MAGA-leaning associate or co-worker starts talking about how America was settled and founded by Europeans, and how we should control immigration to protect and preserve the European culture that molded our principles, show 'em this —

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— then step back and watch the melt down.
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The United States does not have a European culture. What we have is a Western Judeo‑Christian culture influenced by the Enlightenment and a concern for individual rights. Some on the left consider American culture inferior to the cultures of the rest of the world.

Take Mexico, for example. Machismo is often viewed more positively there than in the United States, yet it reflects a stronger patriarchy. A while back, when the Mexican president was groped, the public outrage was not overwhelming but muted. Many people seemed to view it as an example of machismo, a Hombre being Muchacho.

India offers another example. Starvation among Aboriginal tribal people is common, largely caused by the loss of the forests they live in due to urban development and encroachment. And what is the response from much of the general population when the government tries to help these people? Outrage. In our country, that would be called racism, but there it is seen as a cultural difference.

So, does America really have an inferior culture?
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The Village Idiot wrote:
Tue Jan 13, 2026 8:04 pm
Some on the left consider American culture inferior to the cultures of the rest of the world.
Name two people who have expressed this viewpoint and provide word-for-word quotations that say so.
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The United States does not have a European culture. What we have is a Western Judeo‑Christian culture influenced by the Enlightenment and a concern for individual rights
That is the theoretical basis of European culture - so you're saying nothing of any value. It is not the basis of the current administrations plans, actions and anti-American assault on individual rights.

The OP asserts that when rightists speak of "European culture" as the gold standard for the USA, they in reality want to reject Judeo-Christian values, the Enlightenment and all concern for individual rights. They mean "white".

Judeo-Christian values are shared moral principles from Judaism and Christianity, emphasizing
monotheism, the sanctity of life, justice, compassion, personal responsibility, and the divine origin of moral law, rooted in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) and New Testament teachings like the Golden Rule ("do unto others"). Not one bit of that is what rightist "christians" wish to see enacted in the USA.

What on earth do Mexicans and India have to do with the proposition under examination here? Why do you go off on some non-existent tangent [So, does America really have an inferior culture?] when that is not remotely related to the subject at hand?
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MajGenl.Meade wrote:
Wed Jan 14, 2026 11:43 am
The United States does not have a European culture. What we have is a Western Judeo‑Christian culture influenced by the Enlightenment and a concern for individual rights
That is the theoretical basis of European culture - so you're saying nothing of any value. It is not the basis of the current administrations plans, actions and anti-American assault on individual rights.

The OP asserts that when rightists speak of "European culture" as the gold standard for the USA, they in reality want to reject Judeo-Christian values, the Enlightenment and all concern for individual rights. They mean "white".

Judeo-Christian values are shared moral principles from Judaism and Christianity, emphasizing
monotheism, the sanctity of life, justice, compassion, personal responsibility, and the divine origin of moral law, rooted in the Hebrew Bible (Old Testament) and New Testament teachings like the Golden Rule ("do unto others"). Not one bit of that is what rightist "christians" wish to see enacted in the USA.

What on earth do Mexicans and India have to do with the proposition under examination here? Why do you go off on some non-existent tangent [So, does America really have an inferior culture?] when that is not remotely related to the subject at hand?
BS. I know many conservative Christians reasonably well, and as far as I can tell, they believe in fair play, equal treatment, and genuine concern for others. My brother, for example, was very conservative. One night he got up in the middle of the night, hooked up his tractor, and helped a poor Black couple by pulling their car out of a ditch. He didn’t charge them a dime. He didn’t have to do it, but he did it because they were in distress, and he could help. He saved them a considerable amount of money they would’ve had to spend on a tow truck.
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Re: European Culture

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liberty wrote:
Thu Jan 15, 2026 12:40 am
BS. I know many conservative Christians reasonably well, and as far as I can tell, they believe in fair play, equal treatment, and genuine concern for others. My brother, for example, was very conservative. One night he got up in the middle of the night, hooked up his tractor, and helped a poor Black couple by pulling their car out of a ditch. He didn’t charge them a dime. He didn’t have to do it, but he did it because they were in distress, and he could help. He saved them a considerable amount of money they would’ve had to spend on a tow truck.

Holy Moses! Your brother helped a black couple and didn't charge them.

He was a true Christian of unqualifiable quality and his story is tangentially irrelevant subjectwise.

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