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I guess Republicans want Obama to be re-elected...

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...given the cast of crazies that are turning out for their own party's nomination thus far. Now it's Newt Gingrich's turn.

Oh yeah, it should be fun election season... :loon
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At least it is a chance to separate an idiot from his money. It is just a shame no good comes from the separation.
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The 67-year-old former House speaker has some of the best name recognition in the still wide-open race for the Republican presidential nomination, but he also has many political liabilities, including his three marriages.
I'm sorry? How does the number of marriages you've had affect your efficacy as a politician? Surely the fact that he's pushing 70 should be more of a concern.
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Your marriages have an impact on your candidacy when you used to pontificate on the "sanctity" of marriage in order to justify denying same-sex couples the right to marry, while you were committing serial adultery.
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Both parties have shown themselves capable of putting on a spectacle, and then nominating a mainstream candidate who can be good, or can be mediocre to poor. The fringe element may make a point or two, but does not get a true blue candidate. When the dust settles, I expect we'll see a reasonable candidate who may or may not be a good campaigner.

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Long as it's not Romney, I do not care.
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In a one-on-one race, Newt would kick Barry's ass. I can't even imagine how awful Barry would be made to look in a debate against Newt.

But in race between Newt and (Barry + all the democrat crazies and the entire MSM), it wouldn't be much of a race.

Newt is only one of a rather large number of potential R candidates who have not only the credentials to kick Barry's ass, but are substantively more attuned to the group formerly known as the Silent Majority. As I have written here before, the only things Barry has done that are endearing him to the Electorate are the "legacy" policies that he fought as a Senator and candidate. He maintains the irritating Clintonesque habit of saying what the public wants to hear and actually doing the opposite - most notably in the areas of deficit reduction and energy independence.

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And in the "clap your hands if you believe in fairies" department...
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Scooter wrote:And in the "clap your hands if you believe in fairies" department...
I believe in you, does that count?
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Ouch! LOL!! ;)
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Newt has too many negatives, the vast majority of which are self-inflicted (as opposed to being the mountain out of a molehill variety). He is articulate, intelligent and would do well against anyone in a debate. But at some point his main affliction -- Foot In Mouth Disease -- would derail him.

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Sue U wrote:
Scooter wrote:And in the "clap your hands if you believe in fairies" department...
I believe in you, does that count?
That's Mr. Fairy to you :fu :D
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:lol: :lol:

Mr. Fairy, SIR!

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Long Run wrote:Newt has too many negatives, the vast majority of which are self-inflicted (as opposed to being the mountain out of a molehill variety). He is articulate, intelligent and would do well against anyone in a debate. But at some point his main affliction -- Foot In Mouth Disease -- would derail him.
The whoring and corruption scandals aside, his economic predictions have been nearly always 100% wrong. He said that when Clinton cut taxes on the bottom 60% and raised them on the top 20% it would cause stagnation. The opposite happened. We had the largest and longest period of growth in history. And all income groups saw 20%+ increases. But then he was joined in the "idiot chorus" by all of the Republican party 'leaders' at the time.

He supported BushCo's borrowing 270 Billion dollars per year to cut taxes on the rich and said that would create prosperity. The opposite happened again. The median income went DOWN for a decade, the only time this has happened since the depression, the GDP languished, and ultimately we were driven into the worst calamity in 80 years.

Newt is fucking stupid. Republican ideology is fucking stupid.

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From Yglesias:

"Newtie will always love America unless it gets cancer or multiple sclerosis."


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Note to rube:

You apparently have no idea how stupid it seems for someone to be bringing up the deficits that occurred during the Bush years (constitutional issues aside), when those deficits have been rendered little more than "chump change" alongside the horrific deficits that were demanded by BHO, Nancy and Harry.

It's rather like praising the exploits of Home Run Baker in 1928.

But do continue these postings. They illustrate what an out-of-touch idiot you are.

(Historical note to non-Americans: Home Run Baker was a hero of an early era of baseball. His maximum output in one year was 12 home runs, and Babe Ruth set a record of 60HR in 1927, rendering Home Run Baker's nickname rather humorous)

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dgs49 wrote:Note to rube:

You apparently have no idea how stupid it seems for someone to be bringing up the deficits that occurred during the Bush years (constitutional issues aside), when those deficits have been rendered little more than "chump change" alongside the horrific deficits that were demanded by BHO, Nancy and Harry.

It's rather like praising the exploits of Home Run Baker in 1928.

But do continue these postings. They illustrate what an out-of-touch idiot you are.

(Historical note to non-Americans: Home Run Baker was a hero of an early era of baseball. His maximum output in one year was 12 home runs, and Babe Ruth set a record of 60HR in 1927, rendering Home Run Baker's nickname rather humorous)

Deficits incurred during a time of prosperity and surpluses, when there was no reason for them, are stupid.

Deficits incurred to avert a national catastrophy second only to the great depression (also created by Republican economics) are a necessary evil.

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Caught between a rock and a hard place, Mitt Romney appears to have hit the rock with a splatter.

That seems to be the consensus of the coverage of a vitally important speech anyhow.

Mr Romney is the front runner to become the Republican presidential candidate even though he hasn't officially declared. But he has two huge problems.

Problem number one: most Republicans loathe what they call "Obamacare", the president's plan for healthcare reform, which makes nearly all Americans take out health insurance.

And when Mr Romney was governor of Massachusetts, he introduced something pretty similar for those who lived in the state.

Whether it has worked should perhaps be the starting point of any debate. But that's not the political reality.

The majority of Republican party members can't stomach Mr Romney's plan, but he needs their votes to win the nomination.

He could just say he was wrong, which brings us to problem number two.

In the 2008 election, the main charge against him was that he flipped-flopped, and as a result he didn't fly. So an apology would reinforce the image of him as a man always changing his mind.

Instead, he's been resolute, awkwardly presenting a detailed PowerPoint presentation on what he would do about healthcare as president.

"I recognise that a lot pundits around the nation are saying that I should just stand up and say this whole thing was a mistake, that this was a boneheaded idea and I should just admit it - it was a mistake, and walk away," Mr Romney said, speaking at the University of Michigan.

He added: "I presume that a lot of folks think that if I did that, it would be good for me politically. There's only one problem with that: it wouldn't be honest."

There's more than one problem with this unapologetic defiance towards the right.

His plan may well appeal to independents, who count in the final playoff.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13384144
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