National Organization (sort of) for Marriage

[Gob]

Barely half of Americans - a record low - are currently married, according to a Pew Research Center analysis of Census data.

Just 51% of adult Americans are married, compared with 72% in 1960.

The median age of first marriage has also hit a new high, of 26.5 for brides and 28.7 for grooms.

Pew said the number of adults co-habitating, single-person households and single parents had meanwhile increased in recent decades.

The study found that 20% of adults today aged 18 to 29 are married, compared with 59% in 1960.

It is unclear whether they are delaying matrimony or abandoning it altogether.

The analysis also found the number of new marriages in the US had declined by five percentage points between 2009-10.

This may not necessarily have been caused by the economic downturn, since a similar trend has continued in Europe regardless of business cycles.

Pew, a nonpartisan think tank and polling organisation, found the percentage of those Americans who have been married at least once had declined as well - 72% in 2010, from 85% in 1960.

If the trend persists, in a few years less than half of Americans will be married, Pew said.

While Pew did not study reasons for the trend, it noted that the marriage rate for college-educated adults declined "far less" than among the less-educated.

A Pew survey in 2010 found that four out of 10 Americans believed marriage was becoming obsolete, but that 61% people who had never married would like to do so someday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16184188

Better let teh ghays marry ors soon no one will be wed!!

[Econoline]

Single parenthood is closely associated with essentially every cultural, social, and criminal ill in our society. Children in single parent homes are more likely to be unprepared for school, to have failing grades, to drop out, and to have serious behavioural issues. They are much less likely to go to or graduate from college. They are more likely to abuse drugs, to be involved in criminal activities, and to go to jail. They are also more likely to have illegitimate children of their own.

If there were any other factor in American life that was so closely and predictably associated with these problems, it would be outlawed in a minute. But we, as a society, have decided that we don't want to stigmatize women who have children without benefit of a husband/father, so in order not to embarrass anyone, we have let loose a plague of illegitimacy that harms the entire nation. Not the best choice, if you ask me.

Consider the words of the Supremes' hit, Love Child: "No child of mine will be wearin' the name of shame I've been bearin': 'Love Child.'"

If it makes me "ignorant" and "backwards" to recognize these facts, then I guess that's what I am.

And for the record, I am a fucker. Every chance I get.

And not allowing gay parents to be married helps the situation how....?

[Sean]

Single parenthood is closely associated with essentially every cultural, social, and criminal ill in our society. Children in single parent homes are more likely to be unprepared for school, to have failing grades, to drop out, and to have serious behavioural issues. They are much less likely to go to or graduate from college. They are more likely to abuse drugs, to be involved in criminal activities, and to go to jail. They are also more likely to have illegitimate children of their own.

If there were any other factor in American life that was so closely and predictably associated with these problems, it would be outlawed in a minute. But we, as a society, have decided that we don't want to stigmatize women who have children without benefit of a husband/father, so in order not to embarrass anyone, we have let loose a plague of illegitimacy that harms the entire nation. Not the best choice, if you ask me.

Consider the words of the Supremes' hit, Love Child: "No child of mine will be wearin' the name of shame I've been bearin': 'Love Child.'"

If it makes me "ignorant" and "backwards" to recognize these facts, then I guess that's what I am.

And for the record, I am a fucker. Every chance I get.

Facts? You have posted no facts, just a bunch of uneducated shite that I would expect to hear from the pulpit of some rabid fire and brimstone preacher. Can you back up any of the 'facts' with evidence?

Let me ask you one question... Imagine a scenario where a married loving couple have a baby. A month later the father is killed in an accident. In your opinion is the onus on the mother to remarry as soon as possible in order to make sure the child doesn't turn into an evil monster or will the child be miraculously okay with a single parent family as it was born within wedlock, hallefuckinglujah?

[rubato]

The Highest child death rates are all in the most conservative states as well:


Rank
(1=high | 51=low) Child Death Rate
United States 19
1. Mississippi 34 Conservative
2. Alaska 31Conservative
3. Oklahoma 29Conservative
3. Louisiana 29Conservative
6. Arkansas 28Conservative
7. South Dakota 27Conservative
8. South Carolina 25Conservative
9. West Virginia 24Conservative
9. New Mexico 24Conservative
11. Missouri 23Conservative
11. Alabama 23Conservative
13. Nevada 22Conservative
13. Montana 22Conservative
13. Kentucky 22Conservative
13. Idaho 22Conservative
17. Wyoming 21Conservative
17. Texas 21Conservative
17. North Carolina 21
17. Maryland 21
17. Indiana 21
17. Hawaii 21
17. Georgia 21
17. Florida 21
17. Arizona 21
26. Utah 20
26. Tennessee 20
26. Nebraska 20
29. Wisconsin 19
29. North Dakota 19
29. Kansas 19
29. Iowa 19
29. Illinois 19
34. Virginia 18
34. Pennsylvania 18
34. Ohio 18
34. Michigan 18
38. Oregon 17
39. Maine 16
39. Colorado 16
39. California 16
42. Washington 15
42. New York 15
42. New Jersey 15
42. New Hampshire 15
42. Minnesota 15
47. Vermont 12
47. Massachusetts 12
47. Connecticut 12
50. Delaware 10
51. Rhode Island 9

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Conservative = we hate you and want your children to die.

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[Grim Reaper]

Conservative = we hate you and want your children to die.

But only after we've forced you to give birth to your child, because nothing says small government like policing women to make sure they stay pregnant.

[Lord Jim]

Re the "state list" of rube's quoted in Guin's post:

Oh geez, is he starting up with this nonsense again?

When he tried to pull this "Conservative states have more of all of society's ills" a few years ago, I did some research, and countered by providing similar lists that showed that with very few exceptions, (like Alaska) the same states that ranked so poorly in so many categories, a fact that he was attributing to "Conservative governance" also tracked as states with the highest percentages of minority population...

My point in bringing that forward at the time, (and mentioning it again now) was not to try and draw a causal relationship between high minority populations and high rates of negative social factors, (like teen pregnancy rates) but to illustrate the intellectual impoverishment of rube's attempt to make the same sorts of causal claims, about "Conservative governance" when the data supported alternative explanations just as easily...

In order to establish a causative relationship, one must isolate the variable as the cause, eliminating all others...

A "real scientist" would of course know this....

[rubato]

Speaking of marriage, how did "Newtie" work out his marital status when he converted? Did the RC church just say that his current wife is a whore? Or were his two priors whores? (since they weren't married in the RC church).

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[rubato]

The output of governments dominated by conservatives (whether minority or otherwise) is bad. It has been bad for decades and shows no hope of improvement.

A real scientist understands that causation, in the strictest sense, can never be proven it is only inferred based on an understanding of the underlying mechanisms of nature. In this case crappy health care, bad education, high rates of teen pregnancy, high rates of tooth loss, highest rates of gun deaths, high poverty rates, are all outputs of incompetent government.



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