LongRun wrote:If you look at actual numbers, the number was 1,500 who paid no taxes in the report that was issued at the same time as the liberal institution created its report. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/1500-mil ... d=14242254 But let's not quibble about the inaccuracy of the model, let's look at the reason a few high income earners don't pay taxes so that we can actually understand what is going on, instead of mindlessly repeating some liberal talking point.
Let's talk about inaccuracy. You quoted a story using numbers from 2009. The 7,000 figure comes from numbers in 2011. Apparently 2011 had a liberal bias.
LongRun wrote:So the liberal think tank explains, for anyone who wants the real information, that this is a non-story.
The story isn't so much that these people somehow maliciously evaded their taxes. The story is that Mr. Romney is so far out of touch that he's talking about ignoring nearly half the country simply because they don't pay income taxes.
And part of the story is pointing out how many people are in that 47% without being "lazy" or "entitled".
Grim Reaper wrote:
Let's talk about inaccuracy. You quoted a story using numbers from 2009. The 7,000 figure comes from numbers in 2011. Apparently 2011 had a liberal bias.
Actually, the 7,000 figure comes from a computer model and is not a real number. (The latest actual number I could find was for 2009 from an IRS report issued at the same time as the 7,000 figure was imagined). That second point is that these people actually do pay taxes, they just pay them in the country they work in, so it is completely inaccurate to state or leave for inference that 7,000 or 1,500 millionaires don't pay taxes.
Lets see -- a friend of mine who is in deriviatives and all that high end investment crapbusiness is a 1%er by income, but lives and works in Bermuda, so he pays no federal income tax. Apparently he is a victim, dependent on the gub'mint. Which was news to him...
“I ask no favor for my sex. All I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks.” ~ Ruth Bader Ginsburg, paraphrasing Sarah Moore Grimké
"It's like Romney Jazz, it's about the words you don't hear..."
Love it!!
Edited to add; what the fuck is up with this fuckers hair...
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
Apparently he is a victim, dependent on the gub'mint. Which was news to him...
He may not be a victim, but he is certainly causing others (me, you....) to pay more in federal income taxes. I only wish I was able to go "off shore" with my money and save a few dollars by doing so. More in my pocket (to spend on what I choose to spend on) less to the government to "redistribute" not even in my name.
Is there anyone here who has not sought out each and every deduction/shelter they can possibly get? and if you say "no" I believe you are lieing.
But would you take the "please punch me hard on the nose" face which goes with it Jim?
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
