Reminders: Things We All Know But Which Tend To Get Lost

[quaddriver]

Anecdote =/= proof

But as we have show in posts that you read, My anecdote which is centered in the US is LIKELY to be true, and Hens anecdote, which is centered in OZ is HIGHLY unlikely based on the fact that 80-90% is far more likely event than <.1% is. Since you do not dispute that, and you read and did not offer dissent when the proof was given, you accept it as true.

Therefore it would appear, that if both anecdotes are true, the US does a better job than OZ. Did I ever indicate I beleived that? No, in fact I said quite the opposite in yet ANOTHER statement you read and knew to be in existence when you posted.

You have yet to provide any proof of your assertion that the US is better at dealing with PPD than Australia. What you have done is continue to ignore simple questions with misinformation.

see above

Oh poor Quad. How about you drop your martyr act. Just more smoke and mirrors to detract from the debate.

translation: statement is true. we did not then, nor do now require the other participants to back up their claims. such are the priveledges of syncophantism.

Explain how providing more information about birth rates, which is what this discussion revolves around,

no it doesnt. It is what you would like it to, but it was never even a major component of the disucssion, as the previously quoted quotes and the previously posted posts show.

could be considered a strawman. Especially since you kept throwing in information that included death, immigration, and emigration, which has nothing whatsoever to do with birth rates.

No I didnt. I even went to far as to include the average number of seconds betweem a birth, death and immigration to demonstrate that I knew of what I spoke. I even went so far as to include the number per 1000 of births, deaths, and immigration to prove that I knew of what I spoke. you read these posts and knew them to be in existence before you hit enter. Shall we repeat the now familiar phrase.....

age appropriate for child bearing women who have >1 kid. There are more women with >1 kid than there are with only 1 kid.

And? Assuming this is true (since you provide no proof here either)

well lookitup then. Here is an opportunity to prove me wrong! shall I spot you a link or two?

, what is the frequency of these pregnancies? How fast do they get pregnant again?

non-sequitor strawmen

[Scooter]

I know, such gross stupidity screams to be called out. But responding to it only feeds the ego of the attention whore who posts it.

[quaddriver]

Grim, do you think anyone is taken in by his bullshit? Then let the impotent little thing yelp to his heart's content.

There ya go

Scooter just cannot help himself

and you call yourself psychic.

All you have done is demonstrate the claim that there are a subset of members here who are dishonest syncophantic bullshit artists. Which is the sole reason the place was created. Im sure the rest of them thank you for proving it yet again.




*aside from the universal humor of the impotent gay guy calling the obviously non-impotent father of 2 impotent....

[Grim Reaper]

Therefore it would appear, that if both anecdotes are true, the US does a better job than OZ. Did I ever indicate I beleived that? No, in fact I said quite the opposite in yet ANOTHER statement you read and knew to be in existence when you posted.

Comparing anecdotes is meaningless. Provide some real proof for once.

translation: statement is true. we did not then, nor do now require the other participants to back up their claims. such are the priveledges of syncophantism.

Or I'm only concerned with the information that you say you have yet refuse to provide proof of. Amazing that I want you to back up your claims considering the twists and spins you keep coming up with to avoid doing so. You stated that the US is better than Australia at PPD. You are the one with the burden of proving that. Not me. Not Hen. Not Gob. You and only you.

no it doesnt. It is what you would like it to, but it was never even a major component of the disucssion, as the previously quoted quotes and the previously posted posts show.

Wrong. You don't want it to be a component since you prefer using irrelevant data.

No I didnt. I even went to far as to include the average number of seconds betweem a birth, death and immigration to demonstrate that I knew of what I spoke. I even went so far as to include the number per 1000 of births, deaths, and immigration to prove that I knew of what I spoke. you read these posts and knew them to be in existence before you hit enter. Shall we repeat the now familiar phrase.....

More smoke and mirrors. All to avoid actual discussion. And you brought up the CIA fact book. You brought up population growth. You brought in deaths, immigration, and emigration when you did so. I am completely astounded that you refuse to acknowledge your own actions in this thread.

non-sequitor strawmen

I highly suggest you look up what the term "strawman" actually means because you seem to be confused on the matter and are using it as a prop for any argument you dislike.

And I'd love to hear a more detailed explanation about how the frequency of women giving birth is a strawman. I'd really love to hear you explain that one. And not in the condescending tone you keep using to avoid actually discussing anything. I want to know how you can consider how often women giving birth to be irrelevant to the discussion of how good it feels to give birth.

[quaddriver]

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asked, and answered. see above

[Grim Reaper]

Since you refused to even pretend to respond to my most recent post, I can only assume that you are admitting defeat.

[quaddriver]

Since you refused to even pretend to respond to my most recent post, I can only assume that you are admitting defeat.

you are free to assume all sorts of shit. no one will stop you here.

[Grim Reaper]

Like assuming that people will back up their claims? You seem to be stopping me there.

[Sean]

Ps: look up the meaning of anecdotal

I couldn't let this one go...

Quad, I suggest you look up "synchophant"* and "syncophant". Go on... let me know what you find.

Summary:

I said clearly that all women I have talked to viewed pregnancy in a positive light.
Hen said I did not talk to women and many many many women do not do so.
I said that PPD is not a lifelong sentence and gave an ANALOGY and that PPD is oft treated with therapy.
I proved that I have an 80-90% chance of encountering a woman who will report a positive experience.
I proved that I might find 10-20% of women who might have some reservations about the experience.
I proved that I will encounter 1 woman out of every 1000 who had a shit bad time.
Hen said I dont talk to many women.
Gob said PPD is most often treated with drugs, and some other stuff about kindergarten.
I proved that of the plethora of treatements available for PPD list therapy as #1 and drugs as less, disproving above
I, Gob and perhaps others have proven that the populations of 4 countries are increasing simply by birth rates outstripping the death rates. I have stated over and over and proven that I do not need consider immigration to find the assertion true.

You proved fuck all! Do you really think that PPD is the only thing that can make pregnancy a negative experience? I'm beginning to think that the only women you have had any experience with had staples through their stomachs...




*If I ever start a troupe of dancing elephants this is what I'm calling it.

[Lord Jim]

[Joe Guy]

Proof that quad carefully researches his facts online...

[Timster]

Come on Joe; that was just a cheap shot. I have actual pics and that is not him.*


* Yeah, so I doctored the actual pics posted elsewhere. But at least I was honest about it.

[Joe Guy]

Come on Joe; that was just a cheap shot. I have actual pics and that is not him.*

* Yeah, so I doctored the actual pics posted elsewhere. But at least I was honest about it.

I apologize.

I searched the internet for "big fat lying sack of shit who calls himself quaddriver and makes up his own "facts" and repeats them over & over again expecting everyone to believe him" and that picture turned up.

So I was sure it was a picture of quaddriver.

Where are your pictures?

[The Hen]

So you are saying he has shaved since then?

[Lord Jim]

So you are saying he has shaved since then?

I believe he's also gotten contacts....