I'm Just Not Getting This Herman Cain Thing...
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She also represented Nicole Simpson's family.
California lawyers have a celebrity system of their own.
California lawyers have a celebrity system of their own.
GAH!
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I just heard the Jackson verdict being read, nice script, great acting, well played drama, they should make a movie.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Okay, now this is just piling on (and really misleading)....
I use Yahoo Mail, and when I check it, I get a list of headlines for the "Top Stories" running currently. At the moment, here are the six "Top Stories" that are being featured:

I use Yahoo Mail, and when I check it, I get a list of headlines for the "Top Stories" running currently. At the moment, here are the six "Top Stories" that are being featured:
OMG, THREE new women accused Cain of sexual harassment today!Fourth accuser urges Herman Cain to ‘come clean’ about harassment
Jackson doctor convicted in star's 2009 drug death
Correcting the ‘fairy tale’: A SEAL’s account of how Osama bin Laden really died
Chicago Woman Claims Herman Cain Wanted Her to Trade Sex for Job
Lindsay Lohan checks in and out of LA County jail
Another woman accuses Cain



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Jim, you haven't answered my question yet... 
GAH!
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I'll blow up that bridge when I come to it Sue.... 



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I saw Wolf Blitzer interviewing Allred on CNN a little while ago...
And she was going on and on about the President being in charge of the most employees in the country, and the importance of having a President who sets the right example for conduct in the work place, etc., etc.,....
And all I could think while I was listening to this was....
I wonder if Glo was singin' the same tune when Bill Clinton was President....
ETA:
I had forgotten...I just looked it up....
Gloria represented Paula Jones....
So I have to say this for her...
If it comes down to a choice between political philosophy and camera chasing self promotion, she's consistent....
She'll choose camera chasing self-promotion, every time...
And she was going on and on about the President being in charge of the most employees in the country, and the importance of having a President who sets the right example for conduct in the work place, etc., etc.,....
And all I could think while I was listening to this was....
I wonder if Glo was singin' the same tune when Bill Clinton was President....
ETA:
I had forgotten...I just looked it up....
Gloria represented Paula Jones....
So I have to say this for her...
If it comes down to a choice between political philosophy and camera chasing self promotion, she's consistent....
She'll choose camera chasing self-promotion, every time...



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there were the first two then a reported third and Now there's this Allred lackey. which seems erm suspicious.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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Seems like the republican ubbermench are desperate that the unwashed masses pick the candidate the party wants, not the one the lumpen proletariat wants.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Now there are reports of a fifth woman....
Gee, four more, and they can form a softball team!
Cain is planning a news conference for today at 5PM EST to deal with the latest charges....
Wouldn't miss it for the world....
Heard a good one a little while ago on Chuck Todd's show:
Being the alternative to Mitt Romney is like being the #3 leader of Al Qaeda....
You know you're not going to hold the position for very long....
Gee, four more, and they can form a softball team!
Cain is planning a news conference for today at 5PM EST to deal with the latest charges....
Wouldn't miss it for the world....
Heard a good one a little while ago on Chuck Todd's show:
Being the alternative to Mitt Romney is like being the #3 leader of Al Qaeda....
You know you're not going to hold the position for very long....



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Doesn't this mean that he is highly qualified to be president based on the Bill Clinton criteria or does that only apply to Democrats. I hate hypocrisy and I don't care which party owns it. Unless we want to be a nation of self-despised hypocrites we now have a Presidency where the occupant can legally commit perjury. That is too much power for a president to have.
Soon, I’ll post my farewell message. The end is starting to get close. There are many misconceptions about me, and before I go, to live with my ancestors on the steppes, I want to set the record straight.
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I love American politics, Cain is debating sex allegations, Bachman is touting banning abortion, Perry is pissed up on stage, these are the issues the US needs to debate!Lord Jim wrote:Now there are reports of a fifth woman....
Debt? What debt?
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Bread and Circusses, Gob while the nation goes straight to hell.
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato
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It certainly makes Mitt Romney and Barack Obama the two happiest and luckiest SOBs in America....I love American politics, Cain is debating sex allegations, Bachman is touting banning abortion, Perry is pissed up on stage, these are the issues the US needs to debate!
Every day that Romney's position changes aren't the topic of discussion is a good one for him, and every day that the economy isn't the topic of discussion is a good one for Obama...



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I have to agree Jim & Dales.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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The next debate is going to suck its right between my Work and my house
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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Wow, one of the worst performances ever. First Cain has his lawyer come out to do a terrible opening statement in an effort to frame the issue as the unfairness of the court of public opinion. Hahahahaha! That's what elections actually are, you idiot! If you wanted the Rules of Evidence, then you could have tried your sexual harassment cases in a court of law! Then, it's on to the good stuff:
"I don't remember that woman. I remember people who made a positive impression on me." Well, that explains it! If only she had blown him, he would remember!
"The Democrat machine is behind this. I don't have any actual evidence of that." (Probably because the Democrats would like nothing better than this clown as the GOP nominee.)
"An agreement is not a settlement." Really? Because we call them "settlement agreements," and in the context of employment discrimination/sexual harassment claims they usually involve separation from the company and a payout of cash. Kinda like what happened here.
"The charges were found to be baseless." Oh really? By whom, exactly? And if they were baseless, why was there a payout and a confidentiality clause?
"There will likely be more of these charges coming out." Oh, I just can't wait.
"I don't remember that woman. I remember people who made a positive impression on me." Well, that explains it! If only she had blown him, he would remember!
"The Democrat machine is behind this. I don't have any actual evidence of that." (Probably because the Democrats would like nothing better than this clown as the GOP nominee.)
"An agreement is not a settlement." Really? Because we call them "settlement agreements," and in the context of employment discrimination/sexual harassment claims they usually involve separation from the company and a payout of cash. Kinda like what happened here.
"The charges were found to be baseless." Oh really? By whom, exactly? And if they were baseless, why was there a payout and a confidentiality clause?
"There will likely be more of these charges coming out." Oh, I just can't wait.
GAH!
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Notice the difference between Mr. Cain's denial and the "denials" that you heard from Bill Clinton. Cain says he didn't do it, never has done it, wouldn't ever do it, and is willing to take a polygraph. Clinton said, "You have no evidence that I did it."
Do you see the difference?
Knowing how ephemeral is the charge of "sexual harassment," and the willingness of corporate America to pay settlements just to shut people up, I'd say its time for the accusers to come up with something a little more tangible in the way of convincing evidence.
Do you see the difference?
Knowing how ephemeral is the charge of "sexual harassment," and the willingness of corporate America to pay settlements just to shut people up, I'd say its time for the accusers to come up with something a little more tangible in the way of convincing evidence.
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There are a lot of things I want to say about Cain's performance today, and what's likely to happen with this going forward, but time does not permit; so when I get a moment tomorrow I'll go into it in more detail...
But a couple of quick comments:
I heard Gloria Allred seriously suggesting that Cain and her client should be brought before a senate committee to testify about this...
That is as bizarre and "out to lunch" a suggestion as anything Cain has said....
Dave:
Every bit as categorical as Cain's denials...(And every bit as damning, if it's proven to be untrue...)
As for the lie detector thing, that's nothing but grandstanding...
At the beginning of the press conference, he seemed to be categorical about it, "I NEVER met that woman"...
But later, he backed away from that, saying, (this is not an exact quote, but it's close) "I can't say absolutely I won't in the future remember meeting her, but I think it's extremely unlikely"....
If you look at the totality of what he said in that press conference, he left himself a lot of wiggle room on a number of points...
There's nothing you could get from a lie detector test that would be black and white yes or no dispositive, given all the qualifications he made...
There's one way Cain's story regarding the Allred accuser could produce a smoking gun that would force Cain from the race....
If records can be produced proving that he upgraded the hotel room of a woman he claims to have "no memory" of meeting, even Cain would have to pull out...
One thing is certain though....
If there is substance to any of the (serious) accusations that have been made, his performance today will do nothing but inflame the anger of the accusers, and make it more likely that they will go public....
But a couple of quick comments:
I heard Gloria Allred seriously suggesting that Cain and her client should be brought before a senate committee to testify about this...
That is as bizarre and "out to lunch" a suggestion as anything Cain has said....
Dave:
No, actually Dave, Clinton's opening position was, "I did not have sex with that woman...Monica Lewinsky...not once, not a single time"Notice the difference between Mr. Cain's denial and the "denials" that you heard from Bill Clinton. Cain says he didn't do it, never has done it, wouldn't ever do it, and is willing to take a polygraph. Clinton said, "You have no evidence that I did it."
Every bit as categorical as Cain's denials...(And every bit as damning, if it's proven to be untrue...)
As for the lie detector thing, that's nothing but grandstanding...
At the beginning of the press conference, he seemed to be categorical about it, "I NEVER met that woman"...
But later, he backed away from that, saying, (this is not an exact quote, but it's close) "I can't say absolutely I won't in the future remember meeting her, but I think it's extremely unlikely"....
If you look at the totality of what he said in that press conference, he left himself a lot of wiggle room on a number of points...
There's nothing you could get from a lie detector test that would be black and white yes or no dispositive, given all the qualifications he made...
There's one way Cain's story regarding the Allred accuser could produce a smoking gun that would force Cain from the race....
If records can be produced proving that he upgraded the hotel room of a woman he claims to have "no memory" of meeting, even Cain would have to pull out...
One thing is certain though....
If there is substance to any of the (serious) accusations that have been made, his performance today will do nothing but inflame the anger of the accusers, and make it more likely that they will go public....



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In a devastating blow to businessman Herman Cain's presidential ambitions, the American Mustache Institute--a group which had previously lavished rapturous praise on the former Godfather's Pizza CEO--announced it was rescinding its official endorsement of the GOP field's only mustachioed candidate.
In withdrawing its endorsement, the group cited recent allegations made against Cain, including their own tongue-in-cheek accusations: That the advertising at Godfather's Pizza was misleading and that his mustache could be a fake. (Unlike Ron Paul's eyebrows, Cain's mustache is, in fact, real.)
"Amid a storm of allegations levied against Herman Cain, the American Mustache Institute today announced it had rescinded its endorsement for his presidential candidacy," the organization, a nonprofit charity and "the world's leading facial hair advocacy organization," announced in a statement Wednesday. "[M]embers of the AMI administration said they could not in good conscience support his candidacy on behalf of the powerful Mustached American electorate."
The mustached community first turned to Cain in October after after former U.N. Ambassador John Bolton--a grand mustache wearer in his own right--announced he would not seek the nomination. The institute vowed at the time that Cain could "feel comfort in knowing he has the support of the American Mustache Institute and Mustached American community overall."
The group even nominated Cain for the coveted "Robert Goulet Memorial Mustached American of the Year Award," touting his candidacy as "a shining beacon of freedom and hope for people Mustached American heritage everywhere." No word as yet about how the charges levied against Cain may hinder his shot at the Goulet prize.
Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.
yrs,
rubato