The Drip Drip Drip...

[rubato]

Compared to the Republicans perverting the US congress into an instrument of purely partisan ends and ignoring the issues before us for 6 years, this is a nothing.

It was a mistake but not a crime.

yrs,
rubato

[MajGenl.Meade]

So you mean "gross negligence" than?

[Joe Guy]

than?

[rubato]

hyperbolic bullshit, then.

Nothing.

".. Idiot wind blowing every time your move your mouth
Blowing down the backroads heading south
Idiot wind blowing every time you move your teeth
You're an idiot babe
It's a wonder that you still know how to breathe ..."

yrs,
rubato

[MajGenl.Meade]

hyperbolic bullshit, then.
Nothing.

".. Idiot wind blowing every time your move your mouth
Blowing down the backroads heading south
Idiot wind blowing every time you move your teeth
You're an idiot babe
It's a wonder that you still know how to breathe ..."

yrs,
rubato

Gross negligence THEN.

But Mr. Comey rebuked Mrs. Clinton as being “extremely careless” in using a personal email address and server for sensitive information, declaring that an ordinary government official could have faced administrative sanction for such conduct.

But special government officials can skate - despite their extreme carelessness.... of course.

During the investigation, Mr. Comey said, the F.B.I. recovered additional work-related emails that Mrs. Clinton’s lawyers had not turned over to the State Department, including some that contained classified information. But he said there was no evidence that she or her lawyers had intentionally deleted or withheld them.

Still, Mr. Comey delivered what amounted to an extraordinary public tongue-lashing. “There is evidence to support a conclusion,” he said, that Mrs. Clinton “should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation.”

Still you are probably correct, rubato. It wasn't gross negligence - it was not giving a flying frog (typical Clintone)

[rubato]

typical Republican: Kill a few hundred thousand and its nothing:

Scientific surveys:
Source Estimated violent deaths Time period
Iraq Family Health Survey 151,000 violent deaths March 2003 to June 2006
Lancet survey 601,027 violent deaths out of 654,965 excess deaths March 2003 to June 2006
Opinion Research Business survey 1,033,000 deaths as a result of the conflict March 2003 to August 2007
PLOS Medicine Survey[2] Approximately 500,000 deaths in Iraq as direct or indirect result of the war. March 2003 to June, 2011

Body counts:
Source Documented deaths from violence Time period
Associated Press 110,600 violent deaths March 2003 to April 2009
Iraq Body Count project 112,667–123,284 civilian deaths from violence. 174,000 civilian and combatant deaths[4][5][6][7] March 2003 to March 2013
Classified Iraq War Logs[4][8][9][10] 109,032 deaths including 66,08
1 civilian deaths.[11][12] January 2004 to December 2009

Grow a sense of perspective. Grow a set of balls.



yrs,
rubato

[MajGenl.Meade]

Idea anyone? What he's writing about? No? Didn't think so. Apparently HRC's gross negligence is mitigated by people dying in Iraq. Seems an odd thing to claim. Because A, therefore B. Right smart figuring there, rubato. Well done.

Regarding balls, you're the sycophantic Hill-sucker. Not me.

[Lord Jim]

I'm waiting for rube's obligatory, "this shows that this was a big nothing" post...

And right on cue, there it is:

blah blah blah... this is a nothing.

(Sometimes I'm so good at this I scare myself... )

[Long Run]

Like the inspector report, it is a thorough and damning review of HRC's actions, but this is lost because the headline is no indictment and further muffled by Trump's reaction.

[Scooter]

This wasn't just Trump. Republicans have been screeching for a year or more that she should be in prison over this, it's not anyone's fault but their own if the story everyone hears is Clinton being exonerated to that extent.

[Lord Jim]

Idea anyone? What he's writing about? No? Didn't think so. Apparently HRC's gross negligence is mitigated by people dying in Iraq. Seems an odd thing to claim.

That's just his Captain Queeg sputtering nonsensically routine again...

This report makes me even more depressed (I would not have thought that possible) about the way my party has pissed away this golden election opportunity....

If we had even a half-way decent GOP nominee, (Kasich, Bush, Rubio, hell, even Scott Walker) this report would be the icing on the cake for taking down Hillary, and assuring a Republican Presidential victory in November...

A report that plays into every negative narrative about the Clintons...

And adds some more...

A report that exposes her as a brazen serial liar, and a person who acted with "extreme carelessness" in guarding national security...

If we'd had even a half-way decent nominee, from a political standpoint, this report would have been the very best result we could possibly hope for...

A report that condemns her seven ways to Sunday, but still leaves her as the nominee...

What could possibly be better than that?

Political "manna from heaven"...

But of course, at the moment, the GOP doesn't have an even half-way decent nominee...

It has Donald Trump...

an even greater serial liar than Hillary Clinton, who cannot possibly make a persuasive argument that he would be more responsible regarding national defense and national security than Hillary, because he's a mangled apricot hellbeast who doesn't know the first thing about either one...

What a lost opportunity...

It is to weep...

[Guinevere]

This wasn't just Trump. Republicans have been screeching for a year or more that she should be in prison over this, it's not anyone's fault but their own if the story everyone hears is Clinton being exonerated to that extent.

Precisely.

Oh and also, the facts as found by the investigation agency DO NOT FIT into the legal elements of the investigated violation. Something inconvenient for and clearly beyond the comprehension those who are just straight-up HRC haters.

Sorry boys (not), now please go away, the show is over.

[Scooter]

The usual suspects are already claiming that the fix was in. And they are contorting Comey's words beyond recognition to claim that he found that she had broken the law, but that she wouldn't be charged.

So the strategy from now until election day (and throughout her presidency thereafter) will be to continue claiming that she broke the law, even though the FBI has determined that she never did.

In other words, SOP for the Republican Party for the past 25 years.

[Lord Jim]

Personally I don't question Jim Comey's integrity...

I think the seeming disconnect between the extremely strong case he laid out for "gross negligence" and the non-indictment recommendation can be found in what he said here:

Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.

What Comey is doing there, is drawing on his long (and very impressive) experience as a US Attorney, in evaluating whether or not he believed a winnable case could be brought that would meet the standard of "beyond a reasonable doubt"...

Nothing more...

He was NOT saying there was no evidence of a crime, (in fact he said in so many words exactly the opposite)...

In addition to how damning the words are in the report, if you watch Comey when he made his statement, his disgust (and incredulity) at Clinton's behavior (and that of her subordinates) is very evident:

[Sue U]

Personally I don't question Jim Comey's integrity...

I think the seeming disconnect between the extremely strong case he laid out for "gross negligence" and the non-indictment recommendation can be found in what he said here:

Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case.

What Comey is doing there, is drawing on his long (and very impressive) experience as a US Attorney, in evaluating whether or not he believed a winnable case could be brought that would meet the standard of "beyond a reasonable doubt"...

Nothing more...

He was NOT saying there was no evidence of a crime, (in fact he said in so many words exactly the opposite)...

That's a nice attempt at spinning the result, Jim, but it's simply not true. Carelessness -- and even "extreme carelessness" -- is not the same thing as "gross negligence" and not even close to "intentional" mishandling of information. What Comey laid out was a case for simple negligence in the handling of 52 email threads containing a grand total of 110 emails, out of a total of more than 30,000 work-related emails reviewed, culled from more than 60,000 emails total. It's not nothing, but it hardly demonstrates the kind of wilful and reckless disregard of security rules that is damning evidence of criminal conduct. No reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case here because there is simply no evidence for a case to bring -- it has absolutely nothing to do with "reasonable doubt" and everything to do with a lack of evidence of anything that meets the standard for prosecution.

Personally, I don't even see this whole affair as reflecting anything about Clinton's professional competence or fitness to govern. If "mistakes were made" was the only measure by which we judged our political leadership, there would be no survivors.

[BoSoxGal]

I give kudos to Comey for not being a Republican tool and bringing an unsound prosecution recommendation.

I don't discredit Comey's comments about the carelessness that allowed a tiny percentage of SoS emails classified as some level of security clearance required to be sent on the private server.

I also know it is happening throughout our government at local, state, federal level. I've seen firsthand the ignorance among many, many government employees about the security risks of email and the laws covering retention. I know we are talking SoS and national level security, but my bigger point is that in recognizing a culture at State re: email security, and most of State is career people, Comey recognizes that same widespread ignorance about modern tech that many of our current generation leaders have. BTDT.

As to Comey's press conference today; it violates the rules of DOJ and those rules should be adhered to equally for all defendants so in holding that pc, it seems Comey just became a pot.

[Gob]

How its seen over here...

Washington: This election just got so much harder for Hillary Clinton – to be cleared of criminal misconduct was good news. But that lasted for just a minute, because FBI chief James Comey's damning critique of the legally innocent Democratic presidential nominee has armed her opponents with an arsenal of seriously destructive attack lines about the private email server in her basement.

Feeding straight into the thinking of an electorate that already rates Clinton as one of the most unfavourable candidates in the history of presidential polling, second only to her GOP opponent Donald Trump, are about half-a-dozen zingers, each with all the firepower of a political cruise missile.

In a press appearance that lasted only 15 minutes, Comey forensically demolished virtually all aspects of Clinton's evolving and carefully constructed public defence – a narrative that included an admission that use of the server was wrong and an undertaking not to do it again; but which, at all times, insisted on her innocence of any wrongdoing.

But Republicans will ask again and again, if Americans want a president who, in the considered judgment of the FBI ...

- Along with her staff, was "extremely careless" in handling classified information during her tenure as secretary of state, given that "any reasonable person…should have known that an unclassified system was no place" for the kind of material sent and received;

- Despite her insistence that she had never sent classified material, was revealed by a year-long, painstaking investigation to have sent 110 emails containing information that at the time of sending had been deemed to be classified;

- Despite her defence of using a single email device for reasons of "convenience", now was found to have used multiple private email servers and multiple devices;

- Talked about having her emails being sorted as "professional" and "personal", of which only the "professional" were to be released; but that lawyers who did the sorting on her behalf didn't read all the emails and had deleted thousands of "personal" emails, which the FBI found to have contained professional material;

- Would use her personal device and server while travelling in countries that were "sophisticated adversaries", and where despite any evidence to confirm, it was "possible hostile actors gained access" to her email, because the investigation revealed that the private email accounts of some who had been contacted by Clinton had been hacked;

[Long Run]

Washington: This election just got so much harder for Hillary Clinton – to be cleared of criminal misconduct was good news. But that lasted for just a minute, because FBI chief James Comey's damning critique of the legally innocent Democratic presidential nominee has armed her opponents with an arsenal of seriously destructive attack lines about the private email server in her basement.

Like the inspector report, but this is lost because the headline is no indictment and further muffled by Trump's reaction.

A report that exposes her as a brazen serial liar, and a person who acted with "extreme carelessness" in guarding national security...

[wesw]

jim, you are voting for her..., so shut up and swallow....


...that s a good boy (pat pat pat)

[RayThom]

I've said it many times in here, I don't trust Hillary. She's one very shady lady to put it mildly. FBI Director James Comey scathing rebuke of her performance only heightens my distrust.

It's very scary to think she'll be sworn in as my president on January 20th. The only good to come of it all is that it won't be Trump.

And may God help us all.