The United Police States of America

[Gob]

An unarmed man was shot in the head and critically wounded by Los Angeles police officers on Friday night, after he appeared to be flagging them down for assistance.

A passerby recorded graphic video of the incident from a car, and then posted it on Twitter. The video showed officers turning over the man, who appeared to be unconscious and lying on his face, and handcuffing his hands behind his back as his head bled profusely.

The Los Angeles police department said the man, who was not immediately named, had a towel wrapped around his hand and the two officers believed he was concealing a weapon.

The man reportedly waved over the officers in their patrol car in the quiet Los Feliz area of LA, north-east of Hollywood, at about 6.30pm. The officers got out of their vehicle and one ordered the man to “drop the gun”, LAPD lieutenant John Jenal told local television news on Friday night.

Jenal said the man “extended his arm towards the officers”. The man did not respond to the police order and he was shot, Jenal said.

According to the LA Times, officers later discovered the man was not carrying a weapon.

[BoSoxGal]

No words.

I'm going out on a limb, since the article doesn't say . . . any chance the victim wasn't white?

[Lord Jim]

Manhunt after New Orleans cop fatally shot by suspect he was transporting to jail

Louisiana authorities launched a massive manhunt Saturday for an arrestee who killed a police officer as he was being ferried to jail.

Fox8Live said New Orleans police officer Daryle Holloway, 45, died around 8 a.m. after the suspect he was transporting grabbed a gun and shot him.



Police said Holloway was driving Travis Boys, 32, to the Orleans Parish Prison after Boys had been arrested for aggravated battery and outstanding warrants.



Police Chief Michael Harrison said Boys was handcuffed with his hands behind his back in the back seat of the police cruiser. Somehow, Boys moved his hands from behind his back to the front and obtain a weapon as well, Harrison said separately in a video interview posted on the department's Facebook page.

He then made his way through an opening in the cage that separates the front and back seats of the police car, and shot the officer. Department spokesman Tyler Gamble said police were trying to determine what weapon Boys used and how he obtained it, but do not believe Boys used the officer's gun

The police vehicle then crashed into a utility pole and Boys fled, the chief said.

Emergency medical teams arrived at the scene and found Holloway in the front seat with a gunshot wound. He was taken to a hospital where he died a short time later.

The manhunt involved the New Orleans Police Department, Louisiana State Police, the St. Tammany Sheriff’s Office and the U.S. Marshals Service.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/20/ma ... g-reports/

[BoSoxGal]

Police getting shot by bad guys is part of the job risk.

This thread is about police abuse of power.

[MajGenl.Meade]

No words.

I'm going out on a limb, since the article doesn't say . . . any chance the victim wasn't white?

He's reported as being Hispanic. Hard to say from the video but he's certainly not black or dark.

[Gob]

Fox8Live said New Orleans police officer Daryle Holloway, 45, died around 8 a.m. after the suspect he was transporting grabbed a gun and shot him.

How the fuck did that happen?

[BoSoxGal]

Wasn't properly searched most likely - or wasn't properly restrained and got the officer's gun.

Perhaps the assumption of police incompetence is the reason LJ posted it here? Silly me, of course that's it!

[Lord Jim]

Actually, it was to show the other side of the relentless drumbeat of this onesided skewed view thread...

BTW, I'll feel free to do it again...

Acts of valor and heroism by police officers too...

ETA:

It seems to me that probably more than any other active thread on this board, this thread could definitely use some balance and perspective.

[BoSoxGal]

There have been nice stories about police officers posted here before, and you didn't see me bitching. In fact, I'm pretty sure I posted one or two myself.

You're missing the point of the thread, however - it's about police and prosecutor abuse of power, and that is why it focuses on negative stories because generally abuse of power results in negative outcomes. Duh.

It's not meant to be a 'balanced' thread, because I can't imagine anybody posting here wanting to defend the actions of bad cops and bad prosecutors.

But your worldview never ceases to amaze me, so have at it.

[Long Run]

Here is the problem I see with this thread -- it is simply an echo of the current media story of the moment, namely bad cops killing unarmed, innocent and usually black victims. Never mind that we have seen that this current media over-arching story is often enough wrong when it comes to a specific story. This obsession (which is just the latest in a long line of obsessive story lines) paints a one-sided narrative and anything that doesn't fit the narrative gets short shrift. This is why they get so many stories wrong. In short, the major media outlets, as well as the new media, have foregone any pretense at objectivity, carefulness in reporting, or other standard journalistic protocols to make sure they get the story right and at least make an effort at providing balance. They have become the equivalent of Rush Limbaugh or John Stewart - pure opinion presenters who skew everything to their world view.

The media have done this because, as is plainly clear, they are in the money business of selling stories, not getting stories right. We will see if their unreliability is their undoing, or if they can continue to suck in those whose world view agrees with their narrative on story after story.

So, when I see your thread, my take is that this is just more of the same thing. No one disputes there are bad cops/prosecutors, and that having systems to detect and deal with them is necessary. The vast majority of us, though, believe that the vast majority of the police and prosecutors, like most other professions, do their best under extremely difficult and dangerous circumstances. In short, this thread is simply throwing gas on the "cops suck" sentiment that is roiling through the press these days. Fortunately, this story line will stop selling enough media to make it worthwhile before too long and we will be onto some other obsessive story of the moment.

[BoSoxGal]

[Long Run]

btw, cute puppy picture!

[BoSoxGal]

That's a Havanese dog, in celebration of wesw's labeling me a yappy Havanese . . . only problem is that they're not actually a yappy breed at all. But whatever, anything that lets me be a little bit Cuban!

[wesw]

bigsky, I never said yappy. I said lovable!

our neighbors have a sweet little havanese.

[BoSoxGal]

I think what you said was that I chase my own tail then snap at people (presumably you) unexpectedly.

At least be totally honest, wesw.

The kind of dogs that act that way are yappy, too . . .

Havanese are not known for any such behavior, at least not well-bred and well-socialized ones. I'm definitely both.

[Lord Jim]

Well said Long Run...

If I were to start a thread proclaiming that the purpose of it was to dump on some other profession, (let's say defense lawyers, just to pick one at random) and then went through finding every news story I could showing unethical, unscrupulous or illegal behavior engaged in by them, you can betcher boots I'd soon be seeing plenty of posts with positive stories in that thread, and other posts taking me to task for presenting a skewed view that wasn't representative of the overall reality...

And then if my reaction to those posts was to say something along the lines of, "You obviously don't understand the purpose of this thread. This thread is for uncritically trashing and dumping; positive stories and perspective need not apply"...

I can just imagine what the reaction to my saying to that would be...

Probably something like this:

[BoSoxGal]

LJ

I've posted positive stories in here, so have others. Quit lying to make your point.

Police brutality is a bit more important than the bad eggs in other professions because it is WE THE PEOPLE given power to these folks who then abuse that power and diminish ALL OUR FREEDOMS.

GET IT NOW?

[rubato]

Some people can't accept the truth. And the truth is that police brutality is not a rare and unusual event it has become common and widespread due to changes in the training and attitudes of police across the country.
The purpose of relating the stories here is to show that this is true. And this has been done. What has also been done is to show how rarely the victims of police brutality ever see justice.

Some knee-jerk conservatives are too comfortably self-deluded and have low standards for truth (having given up science for RonaldReaganism).


yrs,
rubato

[Lord Jim]

low standards for truth

LMFAO

Yeah, like I'm going to get a lecture on "standards of truth" from a guy with your lengthy record for presenting hilariously bollixed history, badly conducted "science", ass-gas economics, dishonest sources, etc, etc, etc, ...

You wouldn't know "the truth" if it stripped naked, smacked you in the face with its tits, and gave you a lap dance...

Say rube, who was it again that came up with the rules for the GOP debates?

[wesw]

what I said was... bigsky is a lovable little havanese, running around chasing her little tail, but quick to frighten if approached at all aggressively and liable to snap at you.