(Tea) Party on dudes..

[Crackpot]

THe civil war fits into your category there scoot. (as does the cold war to a certain extent)

[Big RR]

THe civil war fits into your category there scoot.

In what way?

[Lord Jim]

I would argue that not even WWII fits into that category

Well that's certainly a radical view....

I would argue that the vast majority of America's wars, (with the exception of the Indian Wars) have been fought to preserve America's freedoms; whether or not you believe those freedoms were under "serious" threat....

(The Cold War and it's attendant occasional military operations certainly fell into this category; the openly stated objective of the Soviet Union was to destroy the freedoms of all the people's of the world by establishing global communist totalitarianism)

It's astonishing to me that any American would dispute the self evident proposition that we are "free" because of the brave men and women who fought for this country.

How this could even qualify as a debatable proposition is utterly beyond me.

[Big RR]

I would argue that the vast majority of America's wars, (with the exception of the Indian Wars) have been fought to preserve America's freedoms; whether or not you believe those freedoms were under "serious" threat....

Certainly that has been a pretext for every war we have fought Jim (even the Indian wars), but if the freedoms were not under a serious threat, then the pretext is pure bullshit. Come on, we fought in Vietnam to preserve our freedoms? We sent troops into South American countries to preserve our "freedoms"? We fought the Spainish American war or WW1 to preserve oyur "freedoms"? What about the land grab called the Mexican war? From what real threat(s) were we protecting our freedoms? Oh, those seeking to get us into the wars for their own ends promoted the ideas of our freedom and way of life being threatened, but this is not the same as saying that is what we are/were fighting for.

[Gob]

BiggRR, what you are forgetting is that these wars WERE fought to protect your freedom.

The freedom to kick the shit out of smaller, less well armed, third world countries, on a whim, in order to make the dumb of your country feel patriotic when buying the latest bumper sticker..

[Mr. Duality]

Idiot beckerheads. I predict Beck's rally will be dwarfed by Colbert's "Restoring Truthiness" rally.
http://www.colbertrally.com/

[liberty]

The tea party can’t be all that bad; Ray Stevens is a member.

[Gob]

Two years ago, the Tea Party movement launched itself, noisily, onto the political stage. By last November, it could take credit for helping to determine the composition of the new US Congress. But at the first annual Tea Party Policy summit in Arizona, there was no sign of complacency.

Amid the booths selling anti-Obama t-shirts and guidebooks to political activism, the spirit of this grassroots insurgency burned brightly.

The Tea Party may already have had a major impact on American politics, but members like Sally Banghart from Colorado said they were not done yet.

"I'm on a mission," she said. "I really believe in this. I just think it's time for the citizens to control the government, and we haven't been doing that."

The Tea Party Patriots, which organised this get-together of more than 2,000 activists (with another 1,500 joining on line), is the largest of the disparate groups that exist under the broad banner of the Tea Party movement.

Read on...