I Believe My GOP Brethren In Iowa...

[Crackpot]

At least I know the difference between vox and pox as well as site and sight.

[wesw]

ah, but vox was a joke.... (and is a joke)

....maybe you ll get it later.....

maybe not tho, since john stewart isn t here to explain it anymore, maybe madcow can help you out....

[Crackpot]

I thought it might be a joke but I decided to be generous.

[Lord Jim]

I'm going to quote myself here:

If Ronald Reagan were in this race, he'd be down in the 4% range in Iowa today, based on the fact that he would be qualified...

On the other hand, if Ronald Reagan had not been qualified to be President by serving two terms as Governor of California, and had instead gone directly from B Movies and hosting Death Valley Days to running for President, in the current insane political environment, he'd probably be at 30% in Iowa...

I repeat again:




If I sound a bit exasperated...

I am....

[MajGenl.Meade]

Maybe wesw should run?

[wesw]

well, let us leave it at you being generous.... that is always a good stopping point.

[wesw]

nah meade, I m more the chief of staff type. the brains behind the power.....

[Lord Jim]

I m more the chief of staff type. the brains behind the power.....

Now, there's a truly terrifying thought...

[MajGenl.Meade]

... or the brains in the throne

(Eng. colloquial)

[Lord Jim]

So much rapid-fire posting...Missed this one:

he walked away from the bankruptcy with a $480k bonus?????)

LMAO

That's a bad afternoon for a single speaking engagement for Mr. Bill after his wife became SOS...

Like the, "Marco Rubio got $800,000 for a book advance (Just like Barack You-Know-Who did after he became a US Senator) and paid off his law school loans and spent $80,000 on a boat" thing...

I just don't see that as a big winner for Team Clinton...

I have a hard time believing that a contrast on "personal financial ethics" is really a topic they'd want to highlight in a general election...I really don't see them wanting to go there...

Of course, they're welcome to do so...

Yeah, let's make him the GOP nominee, 'cause he represents change!

Yeah, well laugh it up funny girl...

I seriously doubt that Madame Clinton and her minions are sitting around thinking, "Boy, we sure hope the GOP nominates John Kasich...that's a slam dunk win "

[Gob]

[Sue U]

So much rapid-fire posting...Missed this one:

he walked away from the bankruptcy with a $480k bonus?????)

LMAO

That's a bad afternoon for a single speaking engagement for Mr. Bill after his wife became SOS...

No, you're wrong again, and it's a ludicrously false comparison that is frankly grasping at straws. Bill Clinton averaged less than half that amount for his speaking fee during Hillary's last year as Secretary of State, when his fees were highest. Also, he was a popular two-term President internationally renowned and still prominent on the world stage, unlike the still-little-known John "Who?" Kasich. And Clinton wasn't taking money out of a company he had just ridden into the largest bankruptcy in history that brought the international financial industry to a full standstill.

I'd love to see how well "Wall Street Banker/Sub-Prime Mortgage Profiteer and Fox News Agit-Propagandist John Kasich" plays with the electorate -- many of whom may still be wondering why the people who destroyed the American Dream for millions and crashed the economy through fraud, recklessness and mismanagement STILL HAVE NOT BEEN PROSECUTED. And ask them, do you really think John Kasich is the guy who would bring these weasels to justice?

I just don't see that as a big winner for Team Clinton...

I have a hard time believing that a contrast on "personal financial ethics" is really a topic they'd want to highlight in a general election...I really don't see them wanting to go there...

Who said anything about Clinton? And what do you have against people earning a living? Why do you hate capitalism?

Yeah, well laugh it up funny girl...

I really didn't believe this year could be any funnier than 2011-12, but believe me, it's been a smash-hit laff riot so far! Oh, and today Trump is murdering ¡Jeb! for loving Messicans so hard. If you're really putting your eggs in that basket, you'd better hope it's not just a basket case by the time you get to New Hampshire.

[wesw]

you sure don t sound like you are laughing on the inside......

[Sue U]

Listen harder.

Inside and out.

Laughing my head off.

And pointing.

[wesw]

ah well sue, maybe you can institute some eugenics when you get in power and sterilize everyone who does not meet your standard of humanity

[Lord Jim]

Who said anything about Clinton?

Well, like any Republican who's serious about wanting to win the election, (which does not apparently currently include a majority of Republican "likely caucus goers" in Iowa, judging by their candidate preferences... )

I expect that despite all her reversals, that Hillary will still be the nominee (albeit with a deeply wounded candidacy)...

ETA:

Do you think the Demo nominee will be Sanders? Or some other hardcore leftie?

If you do, all I can say is:

[dales]

GOP material?

[Lord Jim]

No, he's a hippie commune type...

More a Democrat...

ETA:

Plus he's spent almost his entire life living on uhh, "government assistance"....

[Lord Jim]

citizen statesmen were the foundation of our democracy.

Correction - men who had years, if not decades, of experience in their respective colonial governments before trying their hand at federal politics were the foundation of your democracy. No one fell off their turnip truck and right into the meeting where the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution were signed.

That's exactly right...

George Washington, (who had served in the Virginia House of Burgesses prior to being elected to represent Virginia in the Continental Congress) used to show up at Continental Congress meetings in his uniform from his French-Indian War days, in order to remind his fellow delegates of just who was around with real military command experience....

Just on the off chance they might be looking for someone to command the Continental Army...

(Not to take anything away from George; he was a great man, but he was also a politician)

In all of American history, we've had exactly two Presidents who came to office with no prior political office experience....(As I've just pointed out, George doesn't qualify for that)

Ulysses Grant and Dwight Eisenhower...

The two military leaders who commanded US forces during the two most critical military challenges the US has faced since the revolution...

Top positions that required enormous political ability...(Especially in Eisenhower's case...he had to keep both FDR and Churchill happy while keeping both Montgomery and Patton in line...that took some serious political skills...)

Anyone think they see a Grant or an Eisenhower in Trump, Carson, or Fiorina?*





*That was a rhetorical question...

[Guinevere]

James Madison, Federalist No. 62:

It is not possible that an assembly of men called for the most part from pursuits of a private nature, continued in appointment for a short time, and led by no permanent motive to devote the intervals of public occupation to a study of the laws, the affairs, and the comprehensive interests of their country, should, if left wholly to themselves, escape a variety of important errors in the exercise of their legislative trust.

The citizen legislator was a notion reserved for the states, at best, and many state legislatures have part time sessions to reflect that concept. For example, the General Assembly of Maryland only sits 90 days a year (January-April), then back to the farms and houses of commerce with them. New Mexico has an even shorter session - 30 days in even numbered years, 60 days in odd.