Well, I used my limited data to view the video and so what? I don’t see anything disqualifying in it. He has a different theory as to the use to which the pyramids were put. I thinking he is wrong, but how does that effect his ability to serve as president? At lease he can think outside of the box.Joe Guy wrote:Which has nothing to do with the subject of this thread...liberty wrote: ....If you are fair person and I thing you are, you will agree it is not fair to blame someone for something that is beyond their control. Would you ridicule someone because they are ugly, blind or retarded?
Did you watch the video? Carson stated that it was his 'own personal theory' that the pyramids were built to store grain.
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Soon, I’ll post my farewell message. The end is starting to get close. There are many misconceptions about me, and before I go, to live with my ancestors on the steppes, I want to set the record straight.
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And there you have it folks, the Republican voter of today.
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For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
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liberty wrote:At leas[t] he can think outside of the box.
People who are wrong are just as sure they're right as people who are right. The only difference is, they're wrong.
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Carson's story about being 'magically healed' of his anger after praying about it is inherently believable to his co-religionists but inherently foolish to people who don't believe in magic.
The flaw is that he is claiming to go from point A, a boy or young man with violent rages to point C, a calm peaceful person with no anger in his heart without going through all of the points in between.
In the real world people who start out with an anger problem, realize it is a problem, and eventually are successful at overcoming it go through a long series of steps, of insights gained and wisdom internalised where they are less and less uncontrolled and gradually, more and more like the person they want to be. They learn to control the violent behavior and their emotional states as they learn, practice what they have learned and discover flaws uncoreected.
And if god really COULD cure anger that way he would have cured Moses before he killed that Egyptian soldier and before Moses go mad and struck the rock with his staff. Wouldn't he?
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The flaw is that he is claiming to go from point A, a boy or young man with violent rages to point C, a calm peaceful person with no anger in his heart without going through all of the points in between.
In the real world people who start out with an anger problem, realize it is a problem, and eventually are successful at overcoming it go through a long series of steps, of insights gained and wisdom internalised where they are less and less uncontrolled and gradually, more and more like the person they want to be. They learn to control the violent behavior and their emotional states as they learn, practice what they have learned and discover flaws uncoreected.
And if god really COULD cure anger that way he would have cured Moses before he killed that Egyptian soldier and before Moses go mad and struck the rock with his staff. Wouldn't he?
yrs,
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well rube, you are right about all of the insights and truths that must be discovered. about the difficult , and sometimes long, journey that can heal anger and even rage.
understanding, then destruction, then re-birth as a new thing.
understanding, then destruction, then re-birth as a new thing.
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Spot the fallacy.And if god really COULD cure anger that way he would have cured Moses before he killed that Egyptian soldier and before Moses go mad and struck the rock with his staff. Wouldn't he?
(Hint: because someone does not do something, is it necessarily because he or she cannot?)
I suppose it's too much to hope that Carson did not use the word "magically"? Idiot.
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I'm sorry, but it's going to be a while yet before I get tired of these memes...
People who are wrong are just as sure they're right as people who are right. The only difference is, they're wrong.
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liberty wrote:Well, I used my limited data to view the video and so what? I don’t see anything disqualifying in it. He has a different theory as to the use to which the pyramids were put. I thinking he is wrong, but how does that effect his ability to serve as president? At lease he can think outside of the box.
Media Reporter: Mr President, do you think we will ever win the war against ISIS?
President Carson: I have my own theory on that. ISIS is murdering and destroying people in the Middle East because they've run out of pyramids to store their grain. Therefore, I am negotiating with various contractors to assemble prefabricated pyramids to be dropped by our military into known ISIS encampments. That will appease them and make them less aggressive.
In addition, I have a long term plan. We have sent undercover troops to capture as many ISIS members as possible. I have made arrangements with Canada to imprison each prisoner in an undisclosed Canadian location for one year. It is my belief that after spending one year in prison in Canada they will become gay and polite, after which they will be released back to the Middle East to influence the bad guys.
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So you are saying that god wanted that Egyptian dead and Moses to do it?MajGenl.Meade wrote:Spot the fallacy.And if god really COULD cure anger that way he would have cured Moses before he killed that Egyptian soldier and before Moses go mad and struck the rock with his staff. Wouldn't he?
(Hint: because someone does not do something, is it necessarily because he or she cannot?)
I suppose it's too much to hope that Carson did not use the word "magically"? Idiot.
When you describe faith healing you are invoking magic whether you use the word or not.
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I'm not going to bother clarifying your crudely mistaken ideas of the nature of sin and God's relation to sinners.
This here's a true story. Cutting to the chase, I reached a point in my smoking (cigarettes) life when I'd failed so miserably at quitting, so many times, that I sat smoking on my front stoop in a snowstorm and said out loud, "God, if I'm to quit smoking, you have to do it". And I finished smoking the one I had going, put the eight or so I had left in my pocket and went indoors. 7:30 a.m. December 11, 2001 - the anniversary of my father's death from a heart attack.
Never had another smoke since. Never had one moment of withdrawal, etc. I don't call it "magic" - but if it makes you happy to do so, go ahead.
I am not going to question Carson's testimony about his experience of being freed from addiction to anger. (Just his use of the word "magically", if he used it. He should know better. You don't but you have an excuse)
This here's a true story. Cutting to the chase, I reached a point in my smoking (cigarettes) life when I'd failed so miserably at quitting, so many times, that I sat smoking on my front stoop in a snowstorm and said out loud, "God, if I'm to quit smoking, you have to do it". And I finished smoking the one I had going, put the eight or so I had left in my pocket and went indoors. 7:30 a.m. December 11, 2001 - the anniversary of my father's death from a heart attack.
Never had another smoke since. Never had one moment of withdrawal, etc. I don't call it "magic" - but if it makes you happy to do so, go ahead.
I am not going to question Carson's testimony about his experience of being freed from addiction to anger. (Just his use of the word "magically", if he used it. He should know better. You don't but you have an excuse)
For Christianity, by identifying truth with faith, must teach-and, properly understood, does teach-that any interference with the truth is immoral. A Christian with faith has nothing to fear from the facts
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I don't think I ever will:Econoline wrote:I'm sorry, but it's going to be a while yet before I get tired of these memes...

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my rage disappeared too. poof, like magic.
call it an epiphany of faith, call it a miracle, call it a blessing.
of course the loss of rage came with a dose of knowledge. of self awareness.
of the self loathing that had been there for a long long time.
once I found and became aware of a higher power, and my faith..., jesus came into my life.
it all started with me seeing that I was living my life wrongly, and trying to be better.
I did that before I had any knowing faith. it was enough.
a book called the Robe dropped into my lap and I began to see.
I thought that, tho I had found faith, Christianity was a step too far.
I was wrong about that too.
thank god
call it an epiphany of faith, call it a miracle, call it a blessing.
of course the loss of rage came with a dose of knowledge. of self awareness.
of the self loathing that had been there for a long long time.
once I found and became aware of a higher power, and my faith..., jesus came into my life.
it all started with me seeing that I was living my life wrongly, and trying to be better.
I did that before I had any knowing faith. it was enough.
a book called the Robe dropped into my lap and I began to see.
I thought that, tho I had found faith, Christianity was a step too far.
I was wrong about that too.
thank god
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"Hang on while I log in to the James Webb telescope to search the known universe for who the fuck asked you." -- James Fell
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"Hang on while I log in to the James Webb telescope to search the known universe for who the fuck asked you." -- James Fell
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"Hang on while I log in to the James Webb telescope to search the known universe for who the fuck asked you." -- James Fell
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"Hang on while I log in to the James Webb telescope to search the known universe for who the fuck asked you." -- James Fell
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"Hang on while I log in to the James Webb telescope to search the known universe for who the fuck asked you." -- James Fell
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