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Jarlaxle wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:20 pm
Both are better than the alternatives.
The GOP Senate committee has withdraw all financial support from Bolduc, he’s that good. Still plenty of dark money pouring in on his behalf but I suspect the women of New Hampshire - and even plenty of the men - don’t want this guy in the vaginas of American women en masse. Too bad GOP voters in the NH primary chose a lunatic over a middle of the road old school New England Republican.

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Why would anyone vote for lunatics? I just don't get it. One may not agree with policies of the alternatives but surely they are not total brain-dead whacked out loonies???? Who could be worse than these lying scumbags?
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I think we're finding out something that Trump already knew. There are many lunatics that do vote or can be coerced to vote and they vote for people like themselves.

The U.S. has an abundant lunatic population and it is a large force to contend with.

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Joe Guy wrote:
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I think we're finding out something that Trump already knew. There are many lunatics that do vote or can be coerced to vote and they vote for people like themselves.

The U.S. has an abundant lunatic population and it is a large force to contend with.
But they aren’t lunatics. They are authoritarian personalities who are also sadists on some level - they are looking forward to hurting people by the millions if given the chance.

Lincoln Project podcast on my way to work yesterday the interview was with a journalist exploring attitudes among Trumpists and in particular the notion of impending civil war. She mentioned a couple in their elder years who spoke to her about the enthusiasm they felt for the opportunity they will have to live out their patriotism by killing leftist DemonRats and thereby save America.

Mentally ill people don’t scare me much at all - the truly dangerous psychopath like Gacy or Bundy or Dahmer are fairly rare.

The scariest thing is the normal looking sane neighbor who nevertheless transitions easily into violence and atrocity when following a compelling demagogue. We have seen this before, we know how perfectly normal these good little monsters appear on the surface.

I’m sure we all know some of them.
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The U.S. has an abundant lunatic population and it is a large force to contend with.
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But they aren’t lunatics. They are authoritarian personalities who are also sadists on some level - they are looking forward to hurting people by the millions if given the chance.

Lincoln Project podcast on my way to work yesterday the interview was with a journalist exploring attitudes among Trumpists and in particular the notion of impending civil war. She mentioned a couple in their elder years who spoke to her about the enthusiasm they felt for the opportunity they will have to live out their patriotism by killing leftist DemonRats and thereby save America.

Mentally ill people don’t scare me much at all - the truly dangerous psychopath like Gacy or Bundy or Dahmer are fairly rare.

The scariest thing is the normal looking sane neighbor who nevertheless transitions easily into violence and atrocity when following a compelling demagogue. We have seen this before, we know how perfectly normal these good little monsters appear on the surface.

I’m sure we all know some of them.
Sorry, I should have used the word foolish, which is a secondary definition of lunatic. Although they do seem to be acting mentally ill. I've been wondering how these guys plan on identifying demo(n)crats before killing them. Are they just going after the obvious ones or will they invade and kill everyone in a city like San Francisco - or even the state of California - just because it's known as a democratic party run state? Will my Trump supporting friend that I haven't seen in a couple years shoot me? I better call and ask him.

No matter what. The only possibly good thing about Trump (well, not really good thing) is that he's not young and hopefully not as appealing to as many people as he seems to think. And I also believe there is a large amount of quiet voting republicans that know he's a dangerous @sshole and won't vote for him if he runs again.

The saddest thing is that I don't currently see any democratic politician who is very popular or looks very likely to run and could actually win a presidential election. And even if a democrat wins, the loonies will say the election was fixed. Right now, my best hope is that if Trump runs for president again, an unretarded republican will come along and run against him in the primaries and win the nomination.

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Why Georgians are Voting for Herschel Walker

It would be even funnier if some of the responses weren't so close to the truth.  Like the one-word answer, "FOOTBALL!!!"
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Not a moment too soon for me. Last night, before I went to bed, I checked al my email accounts. My oldest (in use for more than 25 years) I use mainly for stuff on line with the slightest hint of a potential problem. I have had that addy in use for more than 25 years. At 1035pm last nite, I left it empty. Before I came here I checked it and emptied it again. It had 60 messages dated yesterday--all politicians asking for money. On the first of May this year I started keeping track of snail mail from politicians. Between then and now, I have had two, count 'em, TWO mail delivery days with no political money appeals.

I have another email addy, almost as old, I use just for Amazon transactions. That has NEVER had any spam. I thank Amazon for at least that customer-friendly business practice.

I made a mistake early in 2018. I donated a small amount to the Democrat National Committee and to an out-of-state senator who has the same last name as I, but is no relation. I like their policies and what-the-heck, maybe it would get me a bowl Senate bean soup. Seems to me that has resulted in more money than I sent being spent on asking me for more.

In eleven days I will start sending this stuff to the spam filter. I have no good reason for why I have waited to do it. I suppose it is some kind of misguided feeling of civic duty. But I have sent them all zero dollars.

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The only ones I'm seeing are the attack ads on YouTube. Naturally none of them are skippable.

Already mailed in my ballot. Unfortunately my 2 State representatives are R only, one unopposed and the other is 2 Repugs running against each other, so I just picked the less Trumpy of the 2.
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The fascist running for Governor of Wisconsin just said the quiet part out loud - he declared if he’s elected next week, Republicans will never again lose an election in Wisconsin.

How do people vote for that?!
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Ah, well. Perhaps all he means (as his campaign announced) is that he's going to do such a good job that the wonderful folks of Wisconsin will vote Republican, rather than following their usual more Democrat path. Hopefully, he won't win.

One thing people like him (ie scum) want to do is enforce hand counting of ballots and, if they can, ban electronic voting. Did you see that story about a judge who ruled that people in masks, paramilitary clothing and armed with guns hanging out around ballot boxes are merely using their legitimate rights of . . . free speech, assembly, bearing weapons and so on. No such thing as voter intimidation.

Fortunately he changed his position yesterday
The judge blocked members of the group, Clean Elections USA, from openly carrying guns or wearing body armor within 250 feet of drop boxes. The judge also banned members from speaking to or yelling at voters who are dropping off their ballots. The group is additionally banned under the order from photographing or filming any voters at the drop boxes or from posting similar images online – which they’ve done in recent weeks.
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With regard to the campaigns ... is anyone as fucking fed up with the PAC-sponsored ads for (or against) various candidates?  I've noticed that they can make literally whatever statement they want ("So-and-so is in favor of XXX new IRS auditors to target YOU!"; "So-and-so would outlaw all abortions, even in the case of rape, incest, or to save the life of the mother"; "So-and-so wants to take away your hunting rifles!"; "So-and-so wants to hand out all these grants and increase your taxes to pay for it"; "So-and-so will eliminate the obstructions to increasing industry in the state"; "So-and-so will reduce taxes and regulations on major industries and polluters"; "If so-and-so is elected he's going to propose new election oversight rules that will take away your right to be heard"; and so on).  It seems these PAC people can make practically any outlandish statement they want, without bothering to (in many cases) to provide a source or other verification, or to consider the context in which their little soundbite was made.  And because these groups take great pains to indicate that they are "not affiliated with any particular candidate" and "for information / education purposes only", the candidate himself is not responsible for these ads or any of the statements/claims they make on his/her behalf.

And so far as I'm concerned, NONE of these things tell us anything about what these guys and gals WILL do to try to improve our lot, to slow inflation, to stop violent crime, or even pay for the things we have now.  I was sorely tempted to attend a meeting/rally yesterday at an American Legion post when Ron Johnson was supposed to show up (he was making a last-minute bus tour across SW Wisconsin), sit in the back of the room, and when he started going on about how he was gonna keep the criminals off the streets or bring down gas prices or make schools safer, stand up and holler "OH YEAH?  HOW YA GONNA DO IT, AND WHO'S GONNA PAY FOR IT?" — but I know the attitude and tenor of his supporters and I didn't want to come back out to find someone had slashed all the tires on my van, or worse.

One thing is for certain, though.  My mind is made up as to who I'm voting for, it's been made up for a long time now, and all these junk mailings have been keeping my paper shredder busy.  It'll also be good when these political pop-up ads on the internet go away after next Tuesday and all I have to ignore are the ads for the quicker-dicker-upper pills again.

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One thing people like him (ie scum) want to do is enforce hand counting of ballots and, if they can, ban electronic voting.
Absolutely yes! All voting should be done on paper ballots.
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Jarlaxle wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:02 pm
One thing people like him (ie scum) want to do is enforce hand counting of ballots and, if they can, ban electronic voting.
Absolutely yes! All voting should be done on paper ballots.
Only 7% of Americans vote in jurisdictions that use electronic voting machines, and those machines can be set to create a paper RECORD of the votes cast.

93% of Americans either vote a paper ballot by hand, or vote a paper ballot via a machine that marks the paper ballot.

There is a tidal wave of PAPER involved in the USA voting system and something like 2/10 of a percent of votes are improperly cast - nothing that would come anywhere close to changing the result of any election from dog catcher to president.

https://graphics.reuters.com/USA-ELECTI ... pmnewdlvr/

https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/def ... d_Myth.pdf

But it’s nice to see you are well versed in the toxic false propaganda of your MAGAt peers, Jarl!
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Jarlaxle wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 5:02 pm
One thing people like him (ie scum) want to do is enforce hand counting of ballots and, if they can, ban electronic voting.
Absolutely yes! All voting should be done on paper ballots.
Here in Ohio we use paper ballots - counted by machine (scanners). I was not clear enough above. The ballots are kept (or course) in case of recount. Which may have to be done by hand in some eventualities.

Counting ballots by hand is the stupidest, least efficient and most inaccurate method, as both Dem and Rep election bosses agree. (Morons aside). The Reptiles proved the inaccuracy of hand-counting in Arizona at a huge cost to the state and to the republic.
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I've been mailing in a paper ballot for at least 30 years. At first it was because I requested absentee ballots but now everybody gets a ballot in the mail. You can take it to a polling place or mail it in, then they are counted by machine and all votes for republicans are mechanically changed to a democratic candidate.

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Joe Guy wrote:
Thu Nov 03, 2022 11:13 pm
I've been mailing in a paper ballot for at least 30 years. At first it was because I requested absentee ballots but now everybody gets a ballot in the mail. You can take it to a polling place or mail it in, then they are counted by machine and all votes for republicans are mechanically changed to a democratic candidate.
Jeezus God, Joe, don't say that!  You're giving away the secrets!!!

No, seriously, don't say that.  There are too many people waving Trump flags and wearing their red hats too tight who are already believing that.

And just an observation — why are most Trump flags blue?  Isn't he redder than those Commies that Senator McCarthy claimed had infiltrated the State Department back in 1950?

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Opinion: American indifference will be the death blow for democracy

Editor’s Note: Michael Fanone, a former Washington, DC police officer who was injured during the January 6 riot at the US Capitol, is the author of a memoir, “Hold the Line: The Insurrection and One Cop’s Battle for America’s Soul.” He is a CNN law enforcement analyst. The opinions expressed here are his own. Read more opinion at CNN.

When I speak privately with fellow officers who defended the US Capitol on January 6, the conversation often turns to why so many Americans remain indifferent about the insurrection. In other words, most Americans just don’t seem to care. An overt attempt to end our democracy? Meh.

That’s when we cops began to discuss the part we’re not supposed to say out loud.

As one officer recently confided, “Mike, maybe if we hadn’t done such a good job against such overwhelming forces, maybe people would care more. Maybe, if a congressman or a senator had been injured, dragged through the halls to the makeshift gallows or killed, people would give a damn.”

Maybe then, people would get it, and would be motivated to vote on Tuesday as if the future of democracy was on the line. Maybe then, they would understand that if we don’t preserve “one-person, one-vote,” we’ll lose all control over every other issue.

Until last week’s brutal assault against Paul Pelosi, the husband of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, political candidates, including many Democrats, avoided talking about January 6. Apparently, polls show that swing voters care more about gas prices and abortion.

(Polls indicate a big interest in crime too – except, I guess, for violence against police officers during the 2021 insurrection.)

I’d like to believe that the violent attack on Paul Pelosi will be a turning point, but somehow I doubt it. I’m afraid that politically-inspired violence is only going to escalate. It’s already been normalized.

We are no longer talking about isolated incidents or seeing universal condemnation of violence by our leaders. The 82-year-old husband of the woman who is third in line to the US presidency was beaten in his own home for political reasons, and right-wing media and some Republicans reveled in the violence.

People used to say: “It’s all fun and games until someone gets hurt.” Well, people are getting hurt and some Republicans, including the former president’s obnoxious son, still think it’s all fun and games, condoning and – potentially encouraging – more violence.

I get where Junior is coming from. He knows the violence and threats are working. Local election workers, often selfless senior citizens performing their civic duty, are abandoning polling stations in droves.

Let’s not forget that the Republican National Committee adopted an official resolution that January 6 rioters were engaging in “legitimate political discourse.” In law enforcement, we call such an admission “a clue.” It gives us an idea of what’s next on their agenda. Now, GOP threats are no longer targeting just elected officials and election workers. They are being directed against voters themselves.

Make no mistake, voting rights are all about access to the ballot, but Republicans believe that protecting voting rights actually means protecting the ballot from the opposition’s vote.

That’s why Republicans are making it so difficult to vote, creating rules to restrict turnout and posting armed, masked guards at ballot boxes in Arizona, not unlike the way the Ku Klux Klan did after the Civil War – for no other reason than to intimidate people of color. The GOP is using a racist 19th-century playbook to amass power in the 21st century.

As a former police officer who has received death threats for speaking truthfully about January 6, I carry a weapon on a regular basis. But if I lived in Arizona, even I would vote elsewhere, rather than confront an armed individual posted in a lawn chair beside a ballot drop box.

Republicans should call out the masked men toting firearms at the ballot box for precisely what they are: Right-wing fanatics trying to intimidate the rest of us. Some GOP officials have spoken out, but the violent know-nothings who now control the party seem to revel in throwing gasoline on the fire.

In my book, I devote an entire chapter to my transformation from a 2016 Trump voter to a 2020 Biden voter. I had been a single-issue voter: law enforcement. But early in Trump’s term, my views evolved, as I realized I’d been duped by a carnival barker. My point is that people can change, and we need to do whatever it takes to help them – starting with explaining why it’s so important that they vote on Tuesday.

It won’t be easy. I’ve found that it’s easier to fool the American people than to get them to realize they’ve been fooled. I don’t believe that the vast majority of Americans support Trump, but I do believe this majority is indifferent to the pain and suffering that he has caused so many Americans.

There are plenty of reasons to fear Trump and his bullies. But the biggest threat to democracy is indifference, which I believe will be our downfall as a nation. We don’t seem to care enough to pay attention to what’s happening to our country.

I get it: People are busy living their lives. There are a million distractions. Elon Musk bought Twitter. Tom and Giselle are getting divorced. A Kardashian shared pictures of her new baby! This World Series is a barn burner.

But Americans need to understand why this election is so different: It is our first chance since January 6, to reject fascism. And it’s perhaps our last chance to preserve democracy.

We need to care. We need to vote. And we need to drag our indifferent friends to the polls, before it’s too late.
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Bicycle Bill wrote:
Fri Nov 04, 2022 1:30 am

Jeezus God, Joe, don't say that!  You're giving away the secrets!!!

No, seriously, don't say that.  There are too many people waving Trump flags and wearing their red hats too tight who are already believing that.
Special alert to those who believed what I wrote about voting machines in California changing votes for republicans into votes for democrats:

I got a free "My Pillow" for writing that....
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And just an observation — why are most Trump flags blue?  Isn't he redder than those Commies that Senator McCarthy claimed had infiltrated the State Department back in 1950?
Trump chose the color blue for the Trump flag because someone once told him that blue is the complementary color for his skin color. So Trump, being a not too bright orange guy, thinks that means that the color blue said nice things about him and is loyal to him.

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