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Lord Jim wrote:
He's trying to play both sides. Wonder how that will serve him?
I suspect it will serve him well...

It worked like a charm for Obama in 2008...
Aren't you always positing that GOP voters are more discerning? ;)
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Cain for Vice President?
Soon, I’ll post my farewell message. The end is starting to get close. There are many misconceptions about me, and before I go, to live with my ancestors on the steppes, I want to set the record straight.

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Cain for Vice President?
No, I'm virtually certain that Marco Rubio has a mortal lock on that slot....

Young, good looking, perceived as more conservative than Romney, Latino, and from the most critical swing state....


It doesn't get much better than that....
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You know Lib, we had a President once who ran on a platform bragging about the fact that he "didn't know anyone in Washington".....

His name was Jimmy Carter....

How'd that work out?
Not only was Carter not a conservative or a sucessful CEO, Carter was in the Georgia senate and was governor, hardly a non-politician. He could be manipulated by the political forces. Being a democrat, he automatically wanted to meddle.
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I hold to this quaint notion that in order to be a serious candidate for President Of The United States, one should have held at least one major elective or appointive post....Governor, Senator, Secretary Of State; something like that...
Every so often Jim, (and this is especially welcome considering I'm feeling rough as rats today,) you treat me to a little known fact about the lunacy of the US system, which makes my day.

So not only can you buy the presidency, there's a "no experience necessary" clause too!

Thanks ever so much my friend.
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Gob wrote:So not only can you buy the presidency, there's a "no experience necessary" clause too!
Well, you do have to be at least 35! ;)
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there's a "no experience necessary" clause too!
Not only that Strop, but as you can see from some of the posts there are those who actually see having no experience as a big plus....

To me, that's just daffy....

There is no other job on earth about which that attitude would be taken....

Could you imagine someone applying to be President of an insurance company, who went into his interview saying:

"The reason you should hire me, is because I know absolutely nothing about insurance. I've never worked in the insurance industry, I don't know or talk to anyone who does. In fact, I hate insurance companies. I don't even own a single insurance policy."

They'd call for The Men In Their Clean White Coats....
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Sorry LJ, it just doesn't fly. POTUS is a job you can never have previous experience for, except life experience that gives you your ideals and values. And when it comes down to it, that is hugely more important than having some people vote for you before.
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liberty1 wrote:POTUS is a job you can never have previous experience for,
Of course you can.

Experience in making pretty speeches, going on holiday, starting wars abroad, not getting your own way, spending millions on campaigns, and you're a shoe in!

(Ok, the whole wars thing may be a tad awkward to come by.)
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Experience in making pretty speeches, going on holiday, starting wars abroad, not getting your own way, spending millions on campaigns, and you're a shoe in!

(Ok, the whole wars thing may be a tad awkward to come by.)
Exactly. Our current Obamanation is the perfect example.
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Oh, yeah. Too bad he couldn't live up to the fine example of experience and reasoned decision-making set by his predecessor! :roll:
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Vote for Herman!

Herman is proof that Repuglicans hate Mormons even more than they hate blacks.

They don't like women very much. Unless they're embarrassingly stupid like Palin or Bachmann.

And they hate Gays. Really hate them. Gays are like the 'new Nazis'; the one group that all good Republicans can get together and hate en-masse. That whole "homosexual agenda" rhetoric? Does that sound just a little like "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" to anyone?

They hate Mexicans too. Hate their language.

Republicans! If you hate the same people they do, you can join!

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New candidate now announced!

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Ross Perot...
Sometimes it seems as though one has to cross the line just to figger out where it is

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Herman is:

(1) Having fun,

(2) Selling a lot of books (the easiest way for a "celebrity" to make money in the U.S.),

(3) Running for a cabinet position or VP.

He appeals to the part of the conservative wing that believes that there MUST be a simple solution to the economic mess we are in. They (we) just don't want to hear economic plans that offer a little bit of this and a little bit of that.

What nobody seems to understand about American culture as it pertains to public Black figures is that they can, if they want to, be identified under the category: Race: None. Examples of this phenomenon:

Bill Cosby,
Pre-murder OJSimpson,
Halle Berry,
Shaq and MJ,
Denzell Washington.

Barry actually was elected by balancing successfully the bizarre tasks of convincing Black people that he was really Black (There was nothing in his upbringing that prepared him for it other than pigment), while at the same time convincing White people that he wasn't.

Nice trick, but it seems to be crumbling a bit now.

Herman Cain, Race: None. Even bigots like me tend to like him.

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Gotta love that 9-9-9 plan. Raise taxes on the poor and middle class and reduce them for the rich!

Got to be a great boost to consumer spending, 70% of GDP, don't you think?

How stupid are they?


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What nobody seems to understand about American culture as it pertains to public Black figures is that they can, if they want to, be identified under the category: Race: None. Examples of this phenomenon:

Bill Cosby,
Pre-murder OJSimpson,
Halle Berry,
Shaq and MJ,
Denzell Washington.
You forgot Will Smith....
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Ross Perot...
In retrospect, It's a real shame that Ross Perot turned out to be a paranoid fruitcake, because if he hadn't been, (though I would personally never have voted for him over Bush 41, even before he pulled out after he claimed that Republicans had sabotaged his daughter's wedding, and then re-entered the race...even after that bizarro stunt he still pulled 19% of the vote) we might have three viable political parties in this country today, instead of two....
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In using the word, "examples," I thought I made it clear that the list was not intended to be comprehensive. Yes, Wil Smith is one. Joe Morgan. Willie Mays. Sidney Poitier...

A businessman (person) can have intelligence, insight, a record of strong leadership, great communication skills, and he can be taught enough about unfamiliar issues to be competent. At best, s/he can hold a cabinet position competently.

However,...

There is no private sector experience that prepares one for "leadership" as a political executive. The gamesmanship and soul-eroding compromises that are part and parcel of political expediency are not easily learned, and we can't afford to have a "trainee" in the WH.

Which why Governors are probably best qualified, preferably with a few years in Congress.

But of course, great resume's do not guarantee great Presidents.

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I have to say, that was far and away the most entertaining debate of the series....

At one point I thought Perry was about to suggest to Romney that they take off their coats and step out to the parking lot....
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