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dgs49 wrote:Does a pre-pubescent girl have any idea what it means to be a "homosexual," or what specific kinds of conduct are the concern of the Military?
When you can't argue the question, attack the person asking the question. Good to see dgs49 is maintaining a mature stance on this issue. Oh, wait, he's just a child holding on to childish thoughts. Also, you act like it's impossible to be homosexual before you become an adult.
dgs49 wrote:Is she aware that, until they were commanded to get with the program, our military commanders were virtually unanimous in condemning both "don't ask/don't tell," and the abolition of it in favor of welcoming open gays into the military? Is she aware that for the first 200+ years of the Republic, homosexual activity brought about immediate discharge from military service?
And for the first 90 years, slavery was legal. Length of time is meaningless when it comes to ending a hateful practice.
dgs49 wrote:Is she aware of the Biblical underpinnings of the moral code that shuns homosexuality, or that it is also shunned by every major religion on the planet?
You mean the pick and choose Biblical underpinnings? The people who point to the bible are spite filled hypocrites with no real argument other than someone wrote it down a few thousand years ago.
dgs49 wrote:Is she aware of the ramifications of the acceptance of homosexuality in the military with respect to housing, "spousal" benefits, "marriage" in jurisdictions that accept gay "marriage," the problems with chaplains who continue to preach the values that are intrinsic to their respective religions (including, by the way, Islam)?
There is no problem with housing, benefits, or marriage. It all works with men and women married together. Having two people of the same gender doesn't magically make the forms any more difficult to fill out. And the chaplains have their own personal opinions. That doesn't mean they can let them interfere with their jobs.
dgs49 wrote:Yeah, he should have been able to answer her question with a quick and cogent sentence or two. Anyone could.
And yet, he didn't. He gave a non-answer.

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bigskygal wrote:Rick Perry is the latest totally inarticulate village idiot foisted upon the national political stage by Texas, which apparently holds a grudge of some kind against the rest of this great nation.
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bigskygal wrote:Rick Perry is the latest totally inarticulate village idiot foisted upon the national political stage by Texas, which apparently holds a grudge of some kind against the rest of this great nation.
Reading posts like this is exactly why I love this place! :lol: :ok
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bigskygal wrote:Rick Perry is the latest totally inarticulate village idiot foisted upon the national political stage by Texas, which apparently holds a grudge of some kind against the rest of this great nation.
It's not intentional, it's a form of osmosis. There is such a high concentration of village idiots in Texas that some of them can't help but seep out into the rest of the country.
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bigskygal wrote:Rick Perry is the latest totally inarticulate village idiot foisted upon the national political stage by Texas, which apparently holds a grudge of some kind against the rest of this great nation.
It's not intentional, it's a form of osmosis. There is such a high concentration of village idiots in Texas that some of them can't help but seep out into the rest of the country.
Build the dang fence impermeable barrier! (Around Texas.)
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if they'll take Michelle Bachmann on their side, it will be worth it.
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You can't make this shit up:
Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) said he prays because he's "prone to make a lot of mistakes" Wednesday at a presidential campaign stop in Muscatine, Iowa.

A woman asked him what role prayer plays in his life. "Well, I prayed right before I walked over here that I wouldn't make any mistakes that my friends in the media would be able to put on television," he said, according to NBC News.

"I pray a lot," he continued, "because I'm prone to make a lot of mistakes."

In the appearance Wednesday at a local restaurant, Perry touted his faith. 'I think it's time to have a president of the United States, who will stand up and say, "Listen, I'm not afraid to admit I'm a Christian." I'm not afraid to stand up and say, I'm a Christian.' he said.
I agree - it's about time we put religion on the table in American politics. Enough with sweeping it under the rug!
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I wonder if he's playing up the "Christian" thing because Fundamentalists are adamant that Mormons (e.g., Mitt) are NOT Christians (as position with which I agree), and Fundy's are a big voting bloc in the South.

It is rather remarkable how brutal Libs are about Rick Perry's occasional mistakes, while the sitting VP is a veritable walking malapropism machine. And I don't recall Perry saying anything quite so asinine as the "57 states with one to go" quote.

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Perhaps because liberals are intelligent enough to distinguish between slips of the tongue and holes in the brain?
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dgs49 wrote:Is she aware of the Biblical underpinnings of the moral code that shuns homosexuality, or that it is also shunned by every major religion on the planet?
Are you aware that what you wrote says a lot more about religion than it does about homosexuality?
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It says more about the dogmatic. The truly spiritual have tolerance and compassion.

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It says a lot about the pick-and-choose mentality some Christians have. Some Old Testament stuff, like slavery, no longer counts, but homosexuality is still bad.

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Mormons are not Christians not that it should matter as far being elected president of the US is concerned. This point in mostly likely not the most important difference but is easiest for me. Mormons believe in a physical heaven with husbands and wives and children. Southern Baptist don’t. We will know each other in heaven but we won’t be like we are here. We will not sin in heaven because we will have no desire to sin. Do we really understand it, no, but it will be the place to be.

They also don't believe in the trinity, but lets don’t get into that.
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liberty wrote:Mormons are not Christians not that it should matter as far being elected president of the US is concerned.
Oh wow...

You should really look up Mormonism before you post stuff like that.
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So should you
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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It ain't called the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints for nothing.

If the litmus test for whether it is or is not a Christian church is whether other Christians accept it as such, then there isn't a single church in the world that would qualify as Christian, because the Christian credentials of every single one have been challenged by one segment or another of Christianity.

They may not fit your idea of what a Christian is, but unless the birthday Christians were celebrating a few days ago was yours, it is beyond your competence and authority, or that of any other human, to judge.
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It has to do with not meeting the central tenet of Christianity Judaism or Islam for that matter. They are not Monotheistic. They believe that they will be rewarded with Godship over their own planet universe whathaveyou. How many times do we have to go over this?
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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As many times as it takes to point out that, unless your name happens to be Jesus Christ, your opinion on what are or are not the defining characteristics of Christianity doesn't count.

You do realize that there are Christian sects (such as Oneness Pentecostals) who believe any expression of trinitarianism to be polytheistic, and therefore non-Christian. Why should your judgment hold any more value than theirs?
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Crackpot wrote:So should you
Well CP, they identify as Christians and follow the teachings of Jesus. That makes them Christian whether you like it or not.
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