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I think that is likely -- either (i) a nail biter because Clinton's negatives become too big and Trump somehow manages to run a decent campaign or (ii) Trump keeps doing what he is doing and he gets crushed.
I'd say that pretty well sums it up... 8-)

ETA:

The Democratic Party, after a divisive and bruising primary process, nominated an extremely vulnerable and disliked candidate...

And my party, rather than taking advantage of this gift, and in response nominating a strong candidate...(or even a mediocre candidate)

Decided to say:

"Okay, we'll see your extremely vulnerable and disliked candidate, and raise you an even more vulnerable and disliked candidate..."

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I keep thinking maybe this is all an elaborate joke on Trump's part?


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Lord Jim wrote:Come on...

A guy who wants Trump to be the Presidential nominee and wants the Republican Party to nominate nothing but moon bats down ballot?

A person like that clearly wishes the GOP nothing but ill...

He's got to be getting daily instructions from Pinocchio-Schultz...

The only other explanation is that the person would have to be totally insane... :?
And with that final sentence you just cut through all the confusion and solved your own puzzle.
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Well, I was rather hoping that wouldn't be the explanation... :?
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It appears that terrorist attacks no longer boost Drumpf's political fortunes...(this is very good news, since we are virtually certain to see more of them between now and election day... :? )
Clinton Leads Trump on Orlando Massacre Response, Trust to Handle Terrorism

Mirroring her rebound in the race for the White House, Clinton led Trump, 50 percent to 39 percent, in trust to handle terrorism in this poll, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates. That’s similar to the gap in March, after a more closely divided view last month.

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This reflected Clinton’s superior marks for her response to the shooting in Orlando. More respondents thought she did a better job than Trump in responding to the attack overall (46 percent to 28 percent) and showed better temperament in her response (59 percent to 25 percent). More said Clinton gave them confidence that she could handle a similar incident as president (53 percent to 34 percent). She also prevailed, albeit more narrowly, in having better proposals for preventing attacks (44 percent to 35 percent).
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinton- ... d=40162987
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I'm sure this will make @W very proud:
Indiana's Mike Pence 'In Play' as Possible Trump VP Pick

Indiana Gov. Mike Pence is "in play" as a possible contender to be named Donald Trump's running mate at next month's GOP convention, sources familiar with the vice presidential search tell NBC News.

An individual knowledgeable of conversations about the decision tells NBC News that Pence was made aware several weeks ago through an intermediary that he was being considered for the VP slot.

Officials close to the governor stress that Pence has had absolutely no direct contact with the Trump campaign since before Indiana's primary in April. Pence, who is running for his own re-election this November, endorsed Ted Cruz over Trump in the primary contest but noted at the time that the real estate mogul has "given voice to the frustration of millions of working Americans with the lack of progress in Washington, D.C."

In a news conference on Thursday, Pence declined to say whether or not he is being vetted.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-el ... ck-n601951
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Does anyone remember wes crowing a few weeks ago about Bill Clinton's alleged connections to Jeffrey Epstein, and how Trump should start hammering Hillary about it?

Turns out there is a reason that Trump has not and will never bring up Epstein during this campaign - he is alleged to have raped underage girls at Mr. Epstein's parties, for which there is corroboration by an eyewitness.

Funny how the "leftist" mainstream media hasn't seen fit to report these allegations, much like it ignored early allegations against Bill Cosby. It will be on them if, by their inaction, they discouraged other victims from coming forward until it was too late to get justice, as happened in the Cosby case.
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Scooter wrote:Does anyone remember wes crowing a few weeks ago about Bill Clinton's alleged connections to Jeffrey Epstein, and how Trump should start hammering Hillary about it?

Turns out there is a reason that Trump has not and will never bring up Epstein during this campaign - he is alleged to have raped underage girls at Mr. Epstein's parties, for which there is corroboration by an eyewitness.

Funny how the "leftist" mainstream media hasn't seen fit to report these allegations, much like it ignored early allegations against Bill Cosby. It will be on them if, by their inaction, they discouraged other victims from coming forward until it was too late to get justice, as happened in the Cosby case.
If some of the victims, even a minority, in the Cosby case had come forward earlier it would have all been different. It is their fault for not pursuing it, not the presses fault for ignoring scattered and unsupported salacious rumors.


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Scooter, I read the entire article, and I have to say that just from seeing the name of who wrote it, I was initially skeptical about it. (Lisa Bloom is Gloria Allred's daughter, and attaching themselves to high-profile sex abuse allegations is the family business)

And I thought the whole first section where she tries to argue that Trump's crude boorish misogyny should lend credibly to the accusations was way off mark. As disgusting as that behavior is, there's no way to try to use it as a predicate for something as vile as raping a 13 year old girl.

That having been said, when I finally got down to the meat of the allegations, I did find some elements intriguing, especially the apparent existence of a witness.

As for why it's not being more widely covered, I suspect that most of the mainstream press is reluctant to publicize something this potentially incendiary just on the basis of a lawsuit filing. (Also the woman has not gone public so there's no way interview or question her about the allegations, to try and get a sense of her credibility.)

I can't find written anywhere when the judge is expected to rule on whether or not the lawsuit can go forward.(I looked at the PDF of the court filing, and apparently it was only filed 10 days ago.)

If he doesn't toss it out, at that point I would expect an explosion of publicity. Presumably that would mean that Trump would have to be deposed.
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I saw this too and had the same reaction -- when a more objective media does an investigation, then it will be a story and should be a big story. Even so, it sounds like it could be credible because of the witness.

On the other hand, the case could be dismissed due to the statute of limitations issue. Then what? If the alleged victim and her key witness do not go public, then it is hard to see how this will gain any traction.

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rubato wrote:
Scooter wrote:Does anyone remember wes crowing a few weeks ago about Bill Clinton's alleged connections to Jeffrey Epstein, and how Trump should start hammering Hillary about it?

Turns out there is a reason that Trump has not and will never bring up Epstein during this campaign - he is alleged to have raped underage girls at Mr. Epstein's parties, for which there is corroboration by an eyewitness.

Funny how the "leftist" mainstream media hasn't seen fit to report these allegations, much like it ignored early allegations against Bill Cosby. It will be on them if, by their inaction, they discouraged other victims from coming forward until it was too late to get justice, as happened in the Cosby case.
If some of the victims, even a minority, in the Cosby case had come forward earlier it would have all been different. It is their fault for not pursuing it, not the presses fault for ignoring scattered and unsupported salacious rumors.


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Some of the Cosby victims did take their allegations to law enforcement and as in very many acquaintance rape cases, gutless cops and prosecutors told them to get lost.
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Here’s the growing list of big-name Republicans supporting Hillary Clinton

Richard Armitage, Henry Paulson, Brent Scowcroft. Three big-name former George W. Bush administration officials in the past two weeks have announced that they are supporting Hillary Clinton in 2016 — all because Donald Trump is simply a bridge too far for them.

"When it comes to the presidency, I will not vote for Donald Trump," Paulson wrote in The Washington Post last week. "I will not cast a write-in vote. I’ll be voting for Hillary Clinton, with the hope that she can bring Americans together to do the things necessary to strengthen our economy, our environment and our place in the world. To my Republican friends: I know I’m not alone."

He's not. And below are the big names that are with him — or, perhaps more accurately, with her.

(A note: While many, many Republicans have declined to embrace Trump's candidacy, a growing but significantly smaller group has gone so far as to express support for Clinton. This list focuses on the latter, and it will be updated in the weeks ahead.)

Bush administration officials

Henry Paulson, treasury secretary

Richard Armitage, deputy secretary of state and adviser to Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush — Trump "doesn't appear to be to be a Republican, he doesn't appear to want to learn about issues. So I’m going to vote for Mrs. Clinton."

Brent Scowcroft, chairman of the President's Intelligence Advisory Board and adviser to three previous GOP presidents — "The presidency requires the judgment and knowledge to make tough calls under pressure.... [Clinton] has the wisdom and experience to lead our country at this critical time."

Alan Steinberg, regional EPA administrator

Kori Schake, National Security Council and State Department aide

Advisers to previous GOP presidents

Doug Elmets, former Reagan spokesman — "I could live with four years of Hillary Clinton before I could ever live with one day of Donald Trump as president."

Jim Cicconi, former Reagan and George H.W. Bush aide — "Hillary Clinton is experienced, qualified and will make a fine president. The alternative, I fear, would set our nation on a very dark path.”

Foreign policy leaders

Robert Kagan, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and a co-founder of the Project for the New American Century

Max Boot, senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and adviser to GOP presidential candidates — "I'm literally losing sleep over Donald Trump. She would be vastly preferable to Trump."

Peter Mansoor, retired Army colonel and former aide to David Petraeus — "It will be the first Democratic presidential candidate I’ve voted for in my adult life."

Business leaders/donors

Marc Andreessen, venture capitalist — "[Silicon] Valley wouldn't be here, we wouldn't be doing any of this if we didn't have the amazing flow of immigrants that we've had in the last 80 years. And the idea of choking that off just makes me sick to my stomach."

Dan Akerson, former chairman and chief executive of General Motors — "Serving as the leader of the free world requires effective leadership, sound judgment, a steady hand and, most importantly, the temperament to deal with crises large and small. Donald Trump lacks each of these characteristics."

Chuck Robbins, chief executive of Cisco

Hamid Moghadam, chairman and chief executive of Prologis — "Our country is about tolerance and inclusion and that's why, as a lifelong Republican supporter, I endorse Hillary Clinton for president in this election."

William Oberndorf, $3 million to GOP candidates since 2012 — "If it is Trump vs. Clinton, and there is no viable third-party candidate, I will be voting for Hillary Clinton."

Mike Fernandez, $4 million to GOP candidates in recent years — "If I have a choice — and you can put it in bold — if I have a choice between Trump and Hillary Clinton, I’m choosing Hillary. She’s the lesser of two evils."

Former Republican elected officials

Larry Pressler, former three-term Republican senator from South Dakota who lost an independent campaign for his old seat in 2014 — "I can’t believe I’m endorsing Hillary Clinton for president, but I am. If someone had told me 10 years ago I would do this, I wouldn’t have believed them."

Arne Carlson, a former two-term Republican governor of Minnesota who supported President Obama

Robert Smith, former New York state Supreme Court justice — "This year, I’m going to vote for a Democrat for president  —  the first time I’ve done it in 36 years  —  and I think the decision is easy. Hillary Clinton is the only responsible choice, and I don’t understand why so few of my fellow conservatives see it that way."

Political operatives

Mark Salter, former top adviser to John McCain — "Whatever Hillary Clinton’s faults, she’s not ignorant or hateful or a nut. She acts like an adult and understands the responsibilities of an American president. That might not be a ringing endorsement. But in 2016, the year of Trump’s s campaign, it’s more than enough."

Mike Treiser, former Mitt Romney aide — "In the face of bigotry, hatred, violence, and small-mindedness, this time, I’m with her.”

Craig Snyder, former chief of staff to then-Republican former senator Arlen Specter (Pa.) and also an ex-colleague of former top Trump adviser Roger Stone and current top Trump adviser Paul Manafort.

Journalists

Ben Howe, editor at RedState.com
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So the current atny genl and a former president did something really stupid in Arizona when Lynch and Clinton met for a very private discussion. Lynch said afterward that they talked about their grandchildren and golf.

Trump jumped on this--as he should. The meeting was absolutely bad form. But Trump revealed more about himself than the bad actions of the Clinton campaign.

"He mocked Lynch’s claim that the two had talked about their grandchildren. Referencing his own role as a grandfather, Trump told the audience that he loves his eight grandchildren but that he couldn’t fill up 20 minutes of conversation about them, which is the amount of time Clinton is said to have met with Lynch.

“If I talk about them for more than nine or 10 seconds … after that what are you going to say?” Trump said, shrugging." [pasted here from the Yahoo news story]

I have been in competitive grandparenting conversations where one might as well shut up and go home if you cannot talk for at least 10 minutes about each one, and you better have a bunch. Pres Clinton only has two, but I'll bet his phone has enough pictures on it of the latest that he could talk about just Aiden for 20 minutes.

Trump is so self-centered that he can think of nothing to say about his much loved eight grandchildren after only ten seconds!

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Leave it to Trump to always say the stupidest things; this way laid up for him and all he had to do was acknowledge it. But like always, he has to prove again how big an ass he is.

And some people think it is an act. :shrug

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It's clearly pathological. I'd almost feel sorry for the guy except it would be wasted on such an egomaniac.
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I have been looking at th red/blue maps that show the safe states for each party.

they are wrong wrong wrong....

maine will go to trump

Delaware will go to trump

new Hampshire, certainly

rhode island is all trump

new jersey new York PA and Maryland are possibilities....

I still think that MA will go trump

MA is full of loud brash entitled people..., right up his alley :D

so we lose Utah, who cares...., sister wives are nothing but trouble anyway.....

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Trump is so self-centered that he can think of nothing to say about his much loved eight grandchildren after only ten seconds!
On the other hand, if he'd been talking about himself, that plane would still be sitting on the tarmac...
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Look who's profiting from human trafficking now:
Immigrant workers in Dubai building a golf course bearing Donald Trump’s name are packed in labor camps that are low even by the city’s “unbelievably low standards,” according to a report aired by Vice on Friday.

“The conditions of the guys building the Trump International Golf Course were the worst I’ve ever seen,” said correspondent Ben Anderson. “Having guys live 21 to a room with rats running around above them; having to work extremely hard in extreme heat for two years just to break even, just to pay off the debts they accrued getting there.”

During his report, Anderson tailed a group of buses taking workers back to their camp after working on the course. The camp, he learned, was two hours outside of Dubai in an area that lacked even an access road. One worker said he earned $231 a month, but could not leave because the company that contracted him took his passport.

Besides being stuffed into dormitories, he said, workers had to make do with restrooms that “didn’t look fit for human beings.”

Their working situation, Anderson explained, was described by Human Rights Watch officials as looking “like a trafficking network.”

According to the Daily Beast, the golf course is not being built directly by a company belonging to the Republican presidential candidate, which released a statement saying it has “a zero tolerance policy for unlawful labor practices at any project bearing the ‘Trump’ name.” (hollow platitudes are just that unless you DO something to stop it)

Anderson said the horrific conditions workers endure in Dubai are endemic to the United Arab Emirates, where service workers are particularly in danger of mistreatment.

“Trump is just the latest in a long line of Westerners who have gone there, taken — I assume — large amounts of money and turned a blind eye to something which is very obvious and very well-documented,” he said.
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