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Unless Slick Hillie is indicted for mishandling classified information, ( Much as John Deutsch was...her husband Pardoned him) I don't see any way she pulls out of the race before the delegate selection process begins, no matter what her standings in the polls...
She's got a ton of cash, and a huge fundraising apparatus and organizational ground game...
She could lose in both Iowa and New Hampshire, and easily rebound...
Especially vis a vis Sanders, who despite all his popularity with white liberals, (that dominate the delegate selection process in those two states) has not been able to break into Hillary's support among minority voters (especially African Americans) that are much more important in the Demo nominating process in later contests...
(Though he has room to grow his support amongst those voters; all the polling I've seen that shows him with low minority voter support for the nomination also show him with 40-50% that fall into the either "don't know or "no opinion" category...)
On top of all of this, there is of course the fact that there is no person in America who wants to be POTUS more than Hillary Rodham Clinton...
Barring an indictment or mathematical elimination based on the delegate count, you couldn't pry her out of this race with The Jaws Of Life...
An eternity ago, (by which of course I mean last March or April) I considered the odds of her nomination a virtual metaphysical certitude....
99.999% repeating...
Now, even with all the reversals she has suffered, I still consider her to be the odds on favorite for the Demo nomination (again, barring an indictment):
With Biden in the race, I'd rate it a 70% likelihood for Hillary to take the nomination, 20% chance for Joe, and 10% for Comrade Sanders...
Without Biden in the race, I make it a 75% likelihood for Her Royal Clintoness, and I'll give Sanders an outside one in four chance...
(Which is a lot more than I ever expected him to have...)
She's got a ton of cash, and a huge fundraising apparatus and organizational ground game...
She could lose in both Iowa and New Hampshire, and easily rebound...
Especially vis a vis Sanders, who despite all his popularity with white liberals, (that dominate the delegate selection process in those two states) has not been able to break into Hillary's support among minority voters (especially African Americans) that are much more important in the Demo nominating process in later contests...
(Though he has room to grow his support amongst those voters; all the polling I've seen that shows him with low minority voter support for the nomination also show him with 40-50% that fall into the either "don't know or "no opinion" category...)
On top of all of this, there is of course the fact that there is no person in America who wants to be POTUS more than Hillary Rodham Clinton...
Barring an indictment or mathematical elimination based on the delegate count, you couldn't pry her out of this race with The Jaws Of Life...
An eternity ago, (by which of course I mean last March or April) I considered the odds of her nomination a virtual metaphysical certitude....
99.999% repeating...
Now, even with all the reversals she has suffered, I still consider her to be the odds on favorite for the Demo nomination (again, barring an indictment):
With Biden in the race, I'd rate it a 70% likelihood for Hillary to take the nomination, 20% chance for Joe, and 10% for Comrade Sanders...
Without Biden in the race, I make it a 75% likelihood for Her Royal Clintoness, and I'll give Sanders an outside one in four chance...
(Which is a lot more than I ever expected him to have...)
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Re: pool for hillary s withdrawal date....
Meanwhile; the three Repuglican front runners are hopeless idiots: Trump, Carson and Fiorina.
Hillary has a substantial and successful record in government they have ... serial lying on their side.
Only someone who hated the United States could vote for any of the Republican runners to date.
yrs,
rubato
Hillary has a substantial and successful record in government they have ... serial lying on their side.
Only someone who hated the United States could vote for any of the Republican runners to date.
yrs,
rubato
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You know what I enjoy? Catapulting cadavers into water supplies.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.
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Trump will drop out looooonnggggg before HRC ever even thinks about it.
Not that facts or analysis will stop wes' wishful thinking. But as I said elsewhere, if wishes were horses.....
Not that facts or analysis will stop wes' wishful thinking. But as I said elsewhere, if wishes were horses.....
“I ask no favor for my sex. All I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks.” ~ Ruth Bader Ginsburg, paraphrasing Sarah Moore Grimké
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That is precisely the sort of comment that has had such an uplifting effect on the quality of political discourse in this country...*Only someone who hated the United States could vote for any of the Republican runners to date.
yrs,
rubato
Rube, I understand why I don't like Donald Trump, but I confess I'm having a hard time understanding why you don't...(well, except for the fact that you're not a billionaire...and say what you want about Trump, he earned the money...not his wife...)
A loud mouth know-nothing braggart who constantly likes to talk about how much money he's supposedly worth, and how "great" he is, while lashing out with juvenile insults towards everyone in sight...
Seems to me like you and The Donald should have been the first conjoined-at-the-head twins that Dr. Carson separated...
*just in case anybody missed it, that was sarcasm...
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Re: pool for hillary s withdrawal date....
.....then Crackpot would be catapulting their cadavers into water supplies.Guinevere wrote:if wishes were horses.....
People who are wrong are just as sure they're right as people who are right. The only difference is, they're wrong.
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I predict that November 2016 may be the first general election since 1992 (when I was first eligible to vote) in which I don't bother to vote.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
~ Carl Sagan
~ Carl Sagan
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"If 'ifs' and 'buts' were candy and nuts, every day would be Christmas..."
Probably not original to the soon to be erstwhile Speaker of the House John Boehner, but it's often attributed to him...
A way to explain to children, that they can't always get what they want...no matter how much they want it...(I've had occasion to use that quote as a "teaching moment" with both of my kids...)
Speaker Boehner has finally given up on trying to explain things to children...(that would be the 30-40 member Kamikaze Caucus in the House GOP)
He's given up on showing patience with them, or indulging their temper tantrums...
He would prefer to spend the rest of his life playing golf in Florida...
Who the hell can blame him?
Probably not original to the soon to be erstwhile Speaker of the House John Boehner, but it's often attributed to him...
A way to explain to children, that they can't always get what they want...no matter how much they want it...(I've had occasion to use that quote as a "teaching moment" with both of my kids...)
Speaker Boehner has finally given up on trying to explain things to children...(that would be the 30-40 member Kamikaze Caucus in the House GOP)
He's given up on showing patience with them, or indulging their temper tantrums...
He would prefer to spend the rest of his life playing golf in Florida...
Who the hell can blame him?



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aka, "If my aunty had balls, she'd be my uncle."Lord Jim wrote:"If 'ifs' and 'buts' were candy and nuts, every day would be Christmas..."
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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The first time I voted in a Presidential election was in 1980 for Ronald Wilson Reagan...bigskygal wrote:I predict that November 2016 may be the first general election since 1992 (when I was first eligible to vote) in which I don't bother to vote.
And I did so with great enthusiasm, and I have never spent one minute regretting that decision...



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Not I, and I don't really like golf *or* Florida.Lord Jim wrote:"If 'ifs' and 'buts' were candy and nuts, every day would be Christmas..."
Probably not original to the soon to be erstwhile Speaker of the House John Boehner, but it's often attributed to him...
A way to explain to children, that they can't always get what they want...no matter how much they want it...(I've had occasion to use that quote as a "teaching moment" with both of my kids...)
Speaker Boehner has finally given up on trying to explain things to children...(that would be the 30-40 member Kamikaze Caucus in the House GOP)
He's given up on showing patience with them, or indulging their temper tantrums...
He would prefer to spend the rest of his life playing golf in Florida...
Who the hell can blame him?
Or Boehner.
What happens next in the House could be comical, but mostly I think it's going to be frustrating and depressing for anyone who cares about actually getting shit done.
“I ask no favor for my sex. All I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks.” ~ Ruth Bader Ginsburg, paraphrasing Sarah Moore Grimké
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I think that it would be hard to me more useless to the public than the the current leadership, in eother party is.
Jason chaffetz is mot a nutjob or a kamikaze.
chaffetz is running in addition to the the nutjob candidate on the gop side, can t remember his name, but he announced first...
I can t believe that jim is happy with Boehner s performance and his elitist disregard for the rank and file.
mc connel hasn t had much time, but he seems useless as well. slightly more principled than boner, but unwilling to stand up for his beliefs.
if the voters don t like your true positions you should lose.
chaffetz for speaker.
Jason chaffetz is mot a nutjob or a kamikaze.
chaffetz is running in addition to the the nutjob candidate on the gop side, can t remember his name, but he announced first...
I can t believe that jim is happy with Boehner s performance and his elitist disregard for the rank and file.
mc connel hasn t had much time, but he seems useless as well. slightly more principled than boner, but unwilling to stand up for his beliefs.
if the voters don t like your true positions you should lose.
chaffetz for speaker.
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abandon ship!
fbi seizes state dept servers
she gave instructions to stop backing up files
the IT company was a afraid of "shaddy shit" going on (their spelling, not mine.
another IT backup company, Datto, had copies of server and it was in the 'cloud'
state dept requests further e mails, saying there is an apparent "gap" in her e mails
it s a bad day in Clinton land.
orange is the new black......
fbi seizes state dept servers
she gave instructions to stop backing up files
the IT company was a afraid of "shaddy shit" going on (their spelling, not mine.
another IT backup company, Datto, had copies of server and it was in the 'cloud'
state dept requests further e mails, saying there is an apparent "gap" in her e mails
it s a bad day in Clinton land.
orange is the new black......
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Another post about nothing.
Wake me up when HRC is the nominee.
Wake me up when HRC is the nominee.
“I ask no favor for my sex. All I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks.” ~ Ruth Bader Ginsburg, paraphrasing Sarah Moore Grimké
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let me know when you join her in paris, the extradition thing will be tougher there.
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I just came across the following meme, and immediately thought of the above post of yours.bigskygal wrote:I predict that November 2016 may be the first general election since 1992 (when I was first eligible to vote) in which I don't bother to vote.

People who are wrong are just as sure they're right as people who are right. The only difference is, they're wrong.
— God @The Tweet of God
— God @The Tweet of God
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Guinevere wrote:Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Another post about nothing.
Wake me up when HRC is the nominee.
But wait! Republican operatives have just discovered that Hillary's email servers were responsible for the Bengazi raid!
McCarthy is about to convene a hearing.
yrs,
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That's a very good DFW quote, and quite apt.
I'm at the point where I just am not sure that HRC and her puppeteers are all that different from whatever Republican is nominated and his/her puppeteers. If Bernie got the nomination, I'd vote as many times as I could get away with; I'm just feeling like it really is a lesser of two evils system, and I fully expect with HRC as president we will see a repeat of the tactics that have been utilized against Obama by the Republicans - who cares about the country or its citizens, we must just destroy this president's legacy as much as possible, whatever the cost.
It is hard for me to recall that I was once a political science major with great interest and enthusiasm for the process.
But of course, push comes to shove, I'll vote for the lesser evil.
I'm at the point where I just am not sure that HRC and her puppeteers are all that different from whatever Republican is nominated and his/her puppeteers. If Bernie got the nomination, I'd vote as many times as I could get away with; I'm just feeling like it really is a lesser of two evils system, and I fully expect with HRC as president we will see a repeat of the tactics that have been utilized against Obama by the Republicans - who cares about the country or its citizens, we must just destroy this president's legacy as much as possible, whatever the cost.
It is hard for me to recall that I was once a political science major with great interest and enthusiasm for the process.
But of course, push comes to shove, I'll vote for the lesser evil.
For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring.
~ Carl Sagan
~ Carl Sagan
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Yeah, that would explain why the FBI is going through Hillary's email server...But wait! Republican operatives have just discovered that Hillary's email servers were responsible for the Bengazi raid!
McCarthy is about to convene a hearing.
yrs,
rubato
Clearly the Obama Justice Department is part of the Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy...
Rube, do you ever get tired of saying the same stupid things, over and over, and over again?
I suspect not...
You couldn't possibly and operate the way you do...
ETA:
You know rube, there's a school of thought around here that holds that you really aren't as big an imbecile as you appear to be...
That you're actually quite a bright fellow, who's just doing an impersonation of a complete idiot and ignoramus...
I rise now to defend your sincerity...
After nearly two decades of reading your posts, I am absolutely convinced that you are every bit as clueless, ignorant, bigoted, and feeble minded as you appear to be...
It is not an act...
It's "the real you"....
There's no reason to concoct some complex matrix to explain why you act like a simpleminded bully; if one proceeds from the assumption that this is in fact what you are, and take that as a given, all the rest logically falls into place...
Occam's Razor...



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jim, he would have fit perfectly well into lenin s Russia.
or hitler s reich.
he is a little worm of a man who will only get respect at the point of a gun.
he would shoot every repub in the nation and swear that he was only killing vermin.
honesty and reality do not matter to his poor persecuted soul
he is the little guy in the bugs bunny cartoon shouting..., but I am napoleon!!!!
or hitler s reich.
he is a little worm of a man who will only get respect at the point of a gun.
he would shoot every repub in the nation and swear that he was only killing vermin.
honesty and reality do not matter to his poor persecuted soul
he is the little guy in the bugs bunny cartoon shouting..., but I am napoleon!!!!