Is that your take away from that NY Times article Strop?A reporter trying to protect his source? Whatever next?
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Two reports in today's papers here;
US Vice-President Joe Biden says the Justice Department is exploring a legal pursuit of Julian Assange, describing the WikiLeaks founder as a dangerous "hi-tech terrorist".
"We're looking at that right now," Biden told NBC's Sunday talk show, Meet the Press, but stopped short of elaborating on just how the administration could act against the head of the organisation whose release of thousands of classified US diplomatic cables has enraged Washington.
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/techno ... 1923y.html
Neither WikiLeaks not its founder Julian Assange has committed any crime in Australia over the leaking of official United States government documents, the Australian Federal Police announced this afternoon.
This comes despite Prime Minister Julia Gillard labelling the actions of the group "illegal" two weeks ago.
A statement released by the federal police just before 1pm said: "The AFP has completed its evaluation of the material available and has not established the existence of any criminal offences where Australia would have jurisdiction.
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/techno ... 190eb.html
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Well that makes perfect sense...The AFP has completed its evaluation of the material available and has not established the existence of any criminal offences where Australia would have jurisdiction.
After all, it wasn't Australian classified documents he was stealing and publishing. (Though obviously his actions endangered the lives of Aussie personnel in Afghanistan as well)
Why should they have jurisdiction?
If an Australian national committed murder in another country, the Australian authorities wouldn't have jurisdiction either.
I'll tell you one thing that does irritate me a tad...
The government didn't really kick it into high gear until Asswipeange started releasing the diplomatic cables...
They've should have started in with this level of focus and activity at the outset, when he was releasing material that endangered the lives of our troops and Afghan Intel sources....
But, better late than never...I'm very happy to see that the government is finally going after this low life full bore....
Last edited by Lord Jim on Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:50 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Don't you think that Biden should learn the meaning of the word "terrorist" before he starts bandying it about?
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Frankly, I've seen a lot worse hyperbole from Joe Biteme over the years...
In this case, I'm not sure he's that far off the mark....
In this case, I'm not sure he's that far off the mark....
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I disagree LJ. In this case, who was he trying to terrify?
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?
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Only the entire apparatus of our democratically elected government, our troops in the field, our diplomatic corps....I disagree LJ. In this case, who was he trying to terrify?
Another thing that fries my bacon is that this POS is operating freely on a palatial estate, when by rights he ought to be sitting in solitary confinement in an 10 X 12 ft. cell with a metal toilet.
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Sorry mate, I'm not buying it. I feel that the word 'terrorist' is being used by the US government completely out of context because they know that it is a word that will resonate strongly with the American people.
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?
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I think the word is being used to convey the seriousness of what this no good bastard has done....
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My point exactly!
It is still unfair to brand him as a terrorist when he has done nothing to fit the acceptable definition of a terrrorist.
It is still unfair to brand him as a terrorist when he has done nothing to fit the acceptable definition of a terrrorist.
Why is it that when Miley Cyrus gets naked and licks a hammer it's 'art' and 'edgy' but when I do it I'm 'drunk' and 'banned from the hardware store'?
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As I said, I'm not entirely convinced the word is inappropriate, for the reasons I've stated....
I have to say I find myself in the unusual position of being lined up 100% with the Obama Administration, but as I've said since he was first elected, when he was right, I'd be with him.
I have to say I find myself in the unusual position of being lined up 100% with the Obama Administration, but as I've said since he was first elected, when he was right, I'd be with him.
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I'm sure Obama sleeps all the more soundly for knowing that Jim. 
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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The rational definition of a terrorist is that s/he is someone who attacks or threatens non-combatants in order to create a state of great anxiety in the general population, so that they will act or refrain from acting in a desired manner. A terrorist sets off a car bomb in a popular shopping area so that the local population will be afraid to go there.
This ain't terrorism. The general population is not living in fear of another load of exposed confidential communications. Those who care enough are probably waiting to read the next batch, for whatever it might reveal.
Use of the word, "terrorist" in this context cheapens the word. Was Jack Anderson a terrorist?
This ain't terrorism. The general population is not living in fear of another load of exposed confidential communications. Those who care enough are probably waiting to read the next batch, for whatever it might reveal.
Use of the word, "terrorist" in this context cheapens the word. Was Jack Anderson a terrorist?
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Jesus, for the first time on this forum.....I agree with dgs49!
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Yea, and bombing New York (with a plane) has frozen capitalism in the US and the World, and championed fanaticism. 
Terrorist acts are for desperate ideological, fanatical purposes, when legitimate ones aren't working to bring attention to that fringe element.
...without wondering why that is?
Terrorist acts are for desperate ideological, fanatical purposes, when legitimate ones aren't working to bring attention to that fringe element.
...without wondering why that is?
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Assange is forcing us to rethink our assumptions about how much protection the ordinary person needs from the truth. He is arguing that the democratic project was founded on the principles of transparency and trust but has been overtaken by a culture of secrecy and spin.
Ross Cameron is a former federal Liberal Party MP
Read more, for an interesting perspective.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Let the amateurs direct the professionals? Sure, they'll see it, but will they know it?