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tyro wrote:
She's actually much better at thinking on her feet than the former Governor of Alaska...
Who isn’t?
Only these two...

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I agree with Joe Biteme, who quite candidly said the day after she won that if his party thinks they've got this one in the bag, they're making a mistake
Wow, Biden made sense. Proof that even a blind jackass finds a feedbag occasionally!
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While a pungent and illustrative metaphor remains forever beyond the reach of some.

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A return to good old fashioned conservative values is on the cards then..
Conservatives in America are spending most of their time talking about fiscal discipline these days. But that does not mean they have checked their social agenda at the door.

The Values Voter Summit, an annual convention of social and religious conservatives in Washington DC, is usually focused on the perceived social ills of single parenthood, government welfare programs, and, most importantly, abortion.

But this year, with the help of the Tea Party movement, these conservatives have coalesced around the economy and fiscal discipline as their causes du jour.

Restraining government spending and repealing the recently passed health-care law joined abortion, stem-cell research and gay marriage as the biggest applause lines at the summit.

And the movement has a new generation of heroines - Sarah Palin, Congresswoman Michele Bachmann, and, the most recent addition, Delaware Senate candidate Christine O'Donnell - injecting folksy talk of good ol' American values into their economic beliefs.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11353617
the good old fashioned conservative values of greed, bigotry, hating the poor, and intolerance that would be...
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The gift that keeps on giving...
HBO's 'Real Time' host Bill Maher played the clip - from a show he hosted in 1999 called 'Politically Incorrect' - on his show last night.

'I dabbled into witchcraft,' Miss O'Donnell says in the video. 'I hung around people who were doing these things. I'm not making this stuff up. I know what they told me they do. 'One of my first dates with a witch was on a satanic altar and I didn't know it. I mean, there was a little blood there and stuff like that. 'We went to a movie and then had a little picnic on a satanic altar.'

Miss O'Donnell has not yet commented on the clip. Mr Maher claimed last night that he has 22 clips of her on 'Politically Incorrect', saying be plans to play one a day until she agrees to come on 'Real Time'. The clip emerged as Miss O'Donnell cancelled Sunday television show appearances on CBS's 'Face the Nation' and on Fox News.


It also emerged this week that Miss O'Donnell - who has criticised gays and championed traditional family values - has a sister who is a lesbian. Jean O'Donnell, who lives in Los Angeles, used her Facebook page to laugh off claims that her sister is homophobic.

In a post on the page, she thanked people for supporting her sister 'no matter what lies were made up about her.
In the same post, she added: 'PS, have you heard the latest? she's homophobic … gotta laugh.'

Miss O'Donnell has in the past objected to calling Aids sufferers 'victims', claiming they brought the disease on themselves. She also opposed the appointment of a U.S. ambassador because he was gay and may have had links to a paedophile group. And three years ago she attacked gay rights' groups on Fox News, saying: 'They're getting away with nudity. They're getting away with lasciviousness. They're getting away with perversion'.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z0zx0AzCe8
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That sucks, and she's a control freak.

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" Conservatives in America are spending most of their time talking about fiscal discipline these days. "
Drunks talk about sobriety, heroin addicts talk about 'getting clean' and Republicans talk about fiscal discipline.

The only difference between the three is that Drunks are sometimes sober and Heroin addicts often kick the habit. Republicans have never exercised fiscal discipline in the past 45 years.

Largest deficits as a % of GDP:


Nixon/
Ford .…1975 … 3.4
Ford ....1976 … 4.2

Reagan 1982 … 4.0
……….1983 … 6.0
……….1984 … 4.8
……….1985 … 5.1
……….1986 … 5.0
……….1987 … 3.2
……….1988 … 3.1

Bush I 1990 … 3.9
………. 1991 … 4.5
………. 1992 … 4.7
………. 1993 … 3.9

Bush II ..2003 … 3.4
………...2004 … 3.5


http://www.cbo.gov/budget/data/historical.pdf

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It would seem to ring hollow.

and....

Prez. Obama has spent more money than all previous administrations up to Bush.......COMBINED.

Fiscal Conservatism

A pipe dream of both major parties and more pie-in-the-sky hogwash designed as a sop to the uninformed and ill-educated.

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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'I dabbled into witchcraft,' Miss O'Donnell says in the video. 'I hung around people who were doing these things. I'm not making this stuff up. I know what they told me they do. 'One of my first dates with a witch was on a satanic altar and I didn't know it. I mean, there was a little blood there and stuff like that. 'We went to a movie and then had a little picnic on a satanic altar.'
She turned me into a newt!

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Comment on Ms O'Donnell in the Guardian (UK);
"The Tea Party is here and she is the fruitcake".
Edited to add; these pearls of wisdom...
''American scientific companies are cross-breeding humans and animals and coming up with mice with fully functioning human brains.''
—Delaware GOP Senate nominee Christine O'Donnell, discussing cloning with Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, 1999
"Psychics exploit the human beings natural desire that longs for something higher," O'Donnell said on Bill Maher's program in October 2001. "The same way a pimp exploits the natural desire to be with the opposite sex...psychics put people in spiritual harm, the same way pimps put people in physical harm."

“In the guise of so-called freedom of separation of church and state, they’re trying to institute a communist country and that sounds radical but that’s the truth. I mean why aren’t they trying to take out, you know, thou shall not kill? That’s a religious concept. That’s a commandment. Why are they not taking that our of our legal system.” [Savage Nation, 5/24/03]
But only 1 percent of the oil pollution in the sea is the result of oil drilling, while 63 percent is the result of natural seepage on the ocean floor.
It's starting to hurt...
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You're killing me....
The woman is 41 years old and she just got a Bachelor’s degree not only this year, but this month.

It took being sued by her alma mater, Fairleigh Dickinson, in 1994 for her to pay off her outstanding debt of $4,823 and which she only got around to doing in 2003.

As advocate of some group of kooks she threw together named the Savior’s Alliance for Lifting the Truth, she equated masturbation with adultery.

She forfeited on her mortgage in 2008.

The IRS says she’s 11 grand in the hole; she says it’s just a “computer error”.

She hasn’t been gainfully employed in 6 years and she got fired from her last gig at the Intercollegiate Studies Institute after she registered a gender discrimination complaint with the U.S. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission.

She credits her conversion to abstinence and strong Christian values with the fact that before, she’d been “drinking too much and having sex with guys with whom there wasn’t a strong emotional connection”.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_O'Donnell
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“drinking too much and having sex with guys with whom there wasn’t a strong emotional connection”.
I guess she got them drunk before she took advantage of them? somehow i doubt the sex was voluntary.

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You know those that say that the tea party is a legitimate movement and that the nuts are only a few bad apples? I wonder why there are none but nuts that have made the tea party approved ticket.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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The nuts are the most dedicated...and that's horse shit, actually. They are the ones getting the HEADLINES.
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Gob wrote:
Tue Sep 21, 2010 4:44 am
Comment on Ms O'Donnell in the Guardian (UK);
"The Tea Party is here and she is the fruitcake".
Edited to add; these pearls of wisdom...
But only 1 percent of the oil pollution in the sea is the result of oil drilling, while 63 percent is the result of natural seepage on the ocean floor.
I don't know the worldwide numbers but that is, in some respects, actually true. In the context of the Saddam Hussein spill in the Persian (Arabian) Gulf spill from 1991 I ran the numbers (I was a contractor to the UN for that particular spill) and it was about 50:50 for that spill - i.e., the annual natural seeps in the Gulf approximately equalled the 11 million barrels of the spill) and certainly natural seeps are a large constituent of the global marine oil load. I don't know that it 1:63 however.

But O'Donnell's numbers beg two questions. If 1% is the result of drilling, and 63% is the result of natural seepage, where does the other 36% come from? If the numbers are correct, and for the purposes of this comment, I am accepting them, the the 36% comes from spills, leakage, accidents not related to drilling, malicious acts and other androgenic causes. So McDonnell's numbers, even if correct, imply that the vast majority (63:1) of marine oil pollution is natural whereas it's at most 2:1 or thereabouts.

Secondly, and in the sense of a weed being any plant in the wrong place, most oil spills are in the wrong place. One of the favorable things (and this needs some context) about both the Saddam Hussein spill and the Deepwater Horizon spill was that they occurred in areas of high natural seepage. (And this is not an argument in favor of oil spills.) Bacteria accustomed to hydrocarbons and thus capable to some extent of degrading them have evolved in these areas. The Exxon Valdez spill (Prince William Sound, Alaska) was IMO more environmentally damaging than those two although only a few percent in size. (Very cold water, and also lacking those hydrocarbon loving bacteria.).

As with much of what the right were telling us in those far-off days (is it really only 10 years ago? - seems like a lifetime) there was sometimes a grain of truth much disguised and wrapped in mendacity and obfuscation which required some thought to debunk. Nowadays of course there is not even that attempt at rationalization. Trump and his enablers (Barr, Kushner, Pompeo et al) can say what the fuck they like without even a nod to an old-fashioned value such as truth, and their acolytes lap it up.

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I highly recommend the Lincoln Project podcast and TV show for a dose of reason from the GOP resistance in exile. When I listen I think of LJ, as I know he’d be listening to them too if he were still here.
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