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We got us a free for all tonight.
NY governor candidates _ all 7 _ to debate

The Associated Press
Monday, October 18, 2010; 6:56 AM

HEMPSTEAD, N.Y. -- A former madam and a candidate who named his party "Rent is 2 Damn High" will be among the seven candidates in the first debate in the race to be New York's next governor.

Democratic front-runner Andrew Cuomo and tea party Republican Carl Paladino may not debate again after Monday night's televised debate at Hofstra University, underscoring the importance of the meeting in the race that has gained national attention for some nasty tactics by both sides.

Also in the 90-minute debate are: Charles Barron of the Freedom Party; Kristin Davis, the former "Manhattan madam," of the Anti-Prohibition Party; Howie Hawkins of the Green Party; Jimmy McMillan of the Rent is 2 Damn High Party, and Warren Redlich of the Libertarian Party.


The debate will be carried on cable television and on National Public Radio.
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I understand that the Gubernatorial nominee of The New Black Panther Party will also be there....

I hope they're going to carry it on one of the C-SPAN channels...

It sounds like a real freak show.... :lol:
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Check out the Taiwanese animatiion of the Paladino campaign at the link. Hi-Larry-ous!
PALADINO'S AN ABORTIONIST TOO!
Taiwan Animators Fantasize About Carl Paladino’s Gay Campaign

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5:22 pm October 15, 2010 45 Comments 1802 Views

Who knew Carl Paladino would be so much fun, what with his homosexual gay-man night clubs and the boobies and the gay parades? We thought he was just an ignorant boring gazillionaire creep who forced racist porn on his underlings!

Crazy Carl realized his “hate da gayz” thing was falling off the Twitter Rankings or whatever, so he got a new belief: Loving the gays. In fact, now he says Andrew Cuomo doesn’t love gays enough — not as much as Carl “I am basically gay” Paladino.

What other Republican Family Values does Paladino practice, for rent? Abortion! He is the landlord for the abortion clinic. So he’s one of the few people actually profiting from Abortion, which is kind of awesome in a way, if you are a creep. And he is a creep:

(NEW YORK) — The anti-abortion Republican candidate for New York Governor is the landlord of a Planned Parenthood …. On his website, Paladino calls abortion a “fundamental assault on the sanctity of innocent human life.”

[TPM/NMA.tv/KBOI AM]
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Oh boy, those animations are proving a real hit, as they do not give a toss over there as to being taken to task over them.

In the one for the Aussie elections, they showed Abbot, the leader of the Aussie opposition MACHINE GUNNING immigrants coming into Aus!
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I think Paladrino wins the prize for most embarrassing GOP candidate this year, (in a season with some fierce competition; he's even worse than O'Donnell)

It's not just because he's a wealthy outsider....

Meg Whitman is a wealthy outsider, but she's not a certifiable nut job....

It's the certifiable nut job thing...

As I said before, I didn't think much of Mario Cuomo, and I think even less of his son....

But this is one of those rare situations where the GOP candidate is so detestable, so off the hook, that I'd actually have to vote for the Democrat....(I'm more inclined to do that in a race for an executive position like governor than I would be for a legislative position like senator....in a legislative race I'd figure that even if the person is nutty, they're only one of a large number of people, and they'd probably be more likely to vote the way I'd want them to anyway, more often than not....A nutty Governor, on the other hand, can really screw up the quality of life for the people in the state they run...)

Lazio probably couldn't have beaten Cuomo, but at least he wouldn't have been the embarrassment this clown has been.
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Lord Jim wrote:
Meg Whitman is a wealthy outsider, but she's not a certifiable nut job....
Doesn't that make her ineligible to run? I thought you had to fulfill both criteria to be a US politician.
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what's your stance on Rand Paul LJ?
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Well CP, Paul certainly would not have been my choice...(He wasn't Mitch McConnell's either)

I think he's definitely got a screw loose (like his father)

On the other hand, his opponent, who is trying to build the case for his candidacy around trying to make Paul out to be an anti-Christian Pagan based on a 30 year old college prank, (which everyone involved with admits was nothing but a college prank...even Chris Mathews, the host of MSNBC's Hardball took Conway apart for it ) makes him look like a desperate fool...

That was such an idiotic ploy, Conway managed to make Rand Paul look rational by comparison...(not an easy thing to do)

Given the prevailing political climate, I suspect Paul will win and wind up being a very entertaining one term wonder...
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Paul could have handled it much better and the fact that he hasn't speaks volumes.
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Though I get your point the way Bernero keeps harping on the layoffs that Snyder oversaw at Gateway. (that simply didn't happen that way) Has really tuned me off of him. (though I've heard it's "helping")(I weep for reality) If it weren't for that I'd probably be voting for him. As is I see them both as decent candidates with drawbacks.

Bernero has a tenuous grip on reality and Snyder is steeped in cooperate mindset. (of the opinion the unions have to give back in order to come in line with corporate jobs. ( 1. unions have been giving back for the past decade and have become competitive. 2. corperate jobs pay and benefits have been stagnant (or shrinking) for so long that it is more than time forthen to start coming in line with unions. It's got to the point that it is the exception of families that can support a family on one income.)
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The Tea Party movement is very much a double edged sword for the Republican Party....

On the one hand, they've generated a large amount of voter enthusiasm across the board, that will almost certainly help sweep the GOP into control of the House....(the despondence of many Democratic voters also plays an important role, of course)

On the other hand, these dunces have nominated some Senatorial candidates that may very well cost the GOP control of the Senate....

If Angle hadn't been nominated in Nevada, and O'Donnell hadn't been nominated in Delaware, Republican control of the Senate would be pretty much a dead cert, given the prevailing political mood in the country...

But as I said before, I'm concerned about the great victory we're likely to have in a couple of weeks, because unlike 1994, we have no real plan....

The American people are not voting for what the Republican Party has to offer...

They are expressing anger at the people who have been in charge, and my party is merely the happy beneficiary of this anger, because we're the only other choice available.
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CP, as far as the Michigan Governor's race is concerned , as Dandy Don Meredith used to say when a game was completely out of reach, (back in the days when he and Frank Gifford and Howard Cossell were hosting Monday Night Football ...perhaps before your time...)

"Turn out the lights...the party's over"
Poll Date Sample Snyder (R) Bernero (D) Spread
RCP Average 10/3 - 10/11 -- 51.7 31.3 Snyder +20.4
Baydoun/Foster (D) 10/11 - 10/11 2331 LV 54 33 Snyder +21
Mitchell Research 10/11 - 10/11 1390 LV 52 32 Snyder +20
EPIC-MRA 10/3 - 10/7 600 LV 49 29 Snyder +20
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... -1407.html

Consistently running 20 points behind two weeks before the election, is a pretty good working definition of "toast"....(you might as well spread marmite on his nose....stick a fork in him, 'cause he is done....)

Unless Snyder is found in bed with a 13 year old boy, Bernero shouldn't bother thinking about what color curtains he'd like to have hanging in The Governor's Mansion....
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Lord Jim wrote:The Tea Party movement is very much a double edged sword for the Republican Party....

On the one hand, they've generated a large amount of voter enthusiasm across the board, that will almost certainly help sweep the GOP into control of the House.
Do you not find that frightening for your party and country Jim?

Swept to power on the whim of a bunch of hard right unthinking redneck oafs?

BTW, I heard Palin giving a "speech" on NPR's "All things considered" today. Apart from the fact the woman has a voice which could clean glass at 90 paces, the level of her rhetoric was no higher than I'd expect from an average 9 yr old speaking to her school assembly.

It was frightening tin its sheer banality, unintelligence and mindnumbing cliche ridden idiocy.
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the fact the woman has a voice which could clean glass at 90 paces,
Now that's just uncalled for...

I am reliably informed that many buzzards are in fact able to cling to their shit wagons when Sarah comes by....

Ya know, I am absolutely convinced, that if you could sit down and have a private conversation with John McCain...

A conversation where he could be sure nothing he said would be repeated to the press...

He would tell you that making Sarah Palin a national political star...

Is a decision he'd like to do over...
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Ho hum debate.
Cuomo did nothing to hurt himself (might have even helped himself a bit)
Paladino needed a grand slam and failed to deliver. But at least he didn't place foot firmly in mouth for the most part. He did mix up Medicaid and medicare (but then again, so do I) ;)

The rest of the field was the entertainment. McMillan worked his slogan/party name "Rent is 2 Damn High" into just about everything he said. Howie Hawkins (Green party) couldn't stay in the time limit so his answers came off sounding confusing. Redlich (Libertarian) and Barron (Freedom) tried attacking Paladino and Cuomo but niether took the bait.

My prediction
Cuomo by a landslide.

I may vote 3rd party (Libertarian?) just so they can keep their spot on the ballot next year.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/201010 ... tico/43753
Losing it: Politics goes nuts

Alexander Burns, John F. Harris
Mon Oct 18, 1:31 pm ET

American politics, which has been hovering on the edge all year, has finally gone flying off it.
A spate of recent episodes—including a couple of bizarre incidents over the weekend—show all manner of candidates on the 2010 stage abandoning self-control and embracing a campaign-trail equivalent of road rage.
In Alaska, Republican Joe Miller’s private security guards Sunday night arrested a video-toting reporter—never mind that they had no authority to do so—setting off a round of recriminations that continued to echo Monday.
In Colorado, an impatient Rep. Ed Perlmutter, the incumbent Democrat, irritably swatted the hand of Republican opponent Ryan Frazier during a televised debate, prompting Frazier to warn, “Don’t hit me, man, come on.”
And in Kentucky on Sunday night, Republican Senate candidate Rand Paul was so offended by an ad by Democrat Jack Conway—the spot accuses Paul of belonging to a group known for “mocking Christianity and Christ”—that he delivered a rebuke with echoes of the famous 1950s swat-down of Joe McCarthy: “Jack, have you no decency? Have you no shame?”
These were only a few of the highlights of a campaign trail that, just 15 days from Election Day, has rarely sounded more peevish or less restrained by the customary civilities, which in a normal year would inhibit candidates from revealing how much they loathe each other.
Instead, it seems the anger of the American voter is expressing itself in the faces of many American politicians—trembling lips, florid cheeks, bulging eyes.
It is the politics of indignation in full blossom.
And the examples keep coming.
In Massachusetts, it wasn’t 15-term incumbent Barney Frank but his boyfriend, James Ready, who showed up outside Frank’s debate with Republican challenger Sean Bielat with a video camera to heckle Bielat in front of the press, according to a local blog.
Bielat, a veteran making a long-shot challenge to Frank, responded: “Are you serious? … You’re really standing here and heckling me? That’s really what you’re doing?”
“You just tried two jokes and they weren’t even funny,” Bielat’s antagonist shot back.
But this was downright mild compared to the brouhaha in Anchorage Sunday night, when the founder of the news site Alaska Dispatch allegedly pushed a Joe Miller supporter and landed in handcuffs. And that was before the police arrived – Tony Hopfinger’s captors were from the private security firm Drop Zone, which works for Miller’s campaign.
The manhandling of a reporter recalls the year’s most flamboyant threat, from New York gubernatorial candidate Carl Paladino, just a few weeks back. Bristling at questions from New York Post reporter Fred Dicker, Paladino warned: “I’ll take you out, buddy.”
“How are you going to do that?” Dicker asked. Paladino answered: “Watch.”
That attitude has spread, even within the Empire State. New York Rep. Maurice Hinchey, an 18-year House incumbent, laid hands on a reporter outside a debate Friday night, joining newcomers like Paladino and Miller in getting testy with the press.
Asked whether he had a personal financial interest in a local development project, Hinchey poked at the reporter for the Kingston Daily Freeman, barking: “Are you still as deceptive as you have always been? … Shut up.”
Some of the fuming candidates have backed away from their statements – Perlmutter immediately apologized to Miller and Hinchey and Paladino walked back their comments – but others have not. Indeed, Miller fully embraced Drop Zone’s actions and the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee released a statement Monday morning endorsing Conway’s line of attack against Paul.
“Rand Paul has yet to deny any charge regarding his membership in an anti-Christian society, and/or his activities as part of the group,” the committee noted, and spokesman Eric Schultz insisted: “Rand Paul’s theatrical performances may be distractions, but they are not substitutes for answers.”
But Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-Mo.) said Monday that Conway’s ad was "very dangerous" and "came close to the line" of appropriateness.
"Candidates who are at behind at the end reach, and sometimes they overreach,” McCaskill said. She also called Paul “way too thin-skinned” for refusing to shake Conway’s hand.
Miller, meanwhile, described himself as the real victim in the incident at Anchorage Central Middle School.
“While I’ve gotten used to the blog Alaska Dispatch's assault on me and my family, I never thought that it would lead to a physical assault,” Miller said in a release. “It’s too bad that this blogger would take advantage of a ‘Town Hall’ meeting to create a publicity stunt just two weeks before the election.”
my bold. That is exactly how he's failed to deflect it. And what i find so troublesome.
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Lord Jim wrote:CP, as far as the Michigan Governor's race is concerned ....

...Unless Snyder is found in bed with a 13 year old boy, Bernero shouldn't bother thinking about what color curtains he'd like to have hanging in The Governor's Mansion....
I've said more or less the same thing.

Oddly since the debate and his constant harping his poll numbers have slipped (according to your link) ot appears some people just aren't paying attention.
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You lot are fucking mad, you know that don't you? ;)

The country is going balls to the wall, and your political candidates seem to be competing for who can be the most insane chimp in the enclosure.
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In a moment of self-deprecation, Palin told the crowd, "I can see November from my house," a reference to a comedy skit over her qualifications for vice president when she said she could see Russia from Alaska.


Headlining a rally outside county GOP headquarters, Palin told more than 500 people that common sense is an "endangered species" in Washington, D.C., and they should "keep the faith" as they go to the polls Nov. 2.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101018/ap_ ... ty_express
That is such a black hole strength bit of irony, it beggars belief.
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Palin is about dead center of the Republican base with respect to intelligence and general knowledge and not as overtly corrupt as Cheney-Bush or most of the 'professional pols'.



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