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But how valuable is Ms Palin's support for Trump? While the former Alaska governor's reputation has been diminished since the heady days of 2008 - thanks to her absence from public office and involvement in series of questionable reality television shows - she is still well-liked by conservative Republicans and nearly universally known.

Her backing could help insulate Mr Trump against charges that he's not a true believer in the cause due to his support for liberal political issues and candidates in the past. At the very least, she could had have even more crowd-drawing power to a Trump campaign that already fill entire sports arenas.

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She couldn't be the first woman nominated as a major party's VP candidate (that 'honor' went Geraldine Ferraro who was picked by Walter Mondale for the Democrats' ticket of "Wally and The Beaver" back in 1984), so she's trying to get herself in the history books as the first woman to be a two-time losing VP candidate.
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Scooter wrote:Sarah Palin believes in personal responsibility except when it comes to her own family - apparently her son is not to blame for getting shitfaced drunk and beating the living crap out of his girlfriend - it's all Obama's fault.

Someone needs to explain why the supposedly "left wing" mainstream media has not been all over the malignant cunt over this the past few days.

Sarah has already forgotten which president it was that lied about WMD and attacked Iraq in the first place.

So has the MajGel. apparently.


I'm waiting for someone to fact-check her sons military records to see if it was PTSD or "too drunk to remember straight" which he is suffering from.

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bob dole says that he is ok with trump as pres.....

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rubato, what does WMD and Iraq have to do with it. I've not forgotten - can't speak for her though. Don't bandy my name about in connection with obvious batshit lies that you've come up with. Thank you

On the final point - yes, I hope that a fact-check will be done as you suggest
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Sarah has already forgotten which president it was that lied about WMD
And rube has forgotten that not one shred of proof exists the GWB ever deliberately lied about WMD in Iraq...(yet another one of those lamprey ideas...)

Any more than Obama deliberately lied when he called ISIS a "JV team"...

In both cases the evidence supports that conclusions were reached based on judgement calls involving mixed reports and flawed intel...

But of course, one would actually have to care about facts to accept that...
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Sue U wrote:
MajGenl.Meade wrote:She did not say Obama was at fault for her son's behavior. She did not say he was responsible for PTSD. Her word salad was to the effect that we need a president who cares about PTSD unlike Obama.
Then why did she have to bring her son and his domestic violence charges into her endorsement "speech" at all?
Let me make it clear again - I reject what she said re Obama not caring about PTSD and vets

She said she needed to speak about the elephant in the room. She was referring to the reports of her son's behavior - no? That's why she mentioned it
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I doubt that most men with ptsd want to admit it.

most men are stupid and hold their weaknesses inside until they can t be hidden anymore....

...just a survival thing, not really stupid.

weakness is preyed upon.

just see how rube and scooter delight in kicking someone who has fallen.

disgusting. not much different than woman beating.

I feel guilty making fun of Hillary now..., a little.

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Even CNN has the integrity to understand what was said:
Tulsa, Oklahoma (CNN)Sarah Palin on Wednesday spoke of the damaging toll a 2008 combat deployment in Iraq had on her son, Track, who was arrested and charged in a domestic violence incident on Monday night.

"What my own son is going through, what he is going through coming back, I can relate to other families who feel ramifications of PTSD and some of the woundedness that our soldiers do return with," she told the audience at a rally for Donald Trump in Tulsa, Oklahoma. "And it makes me realize, more than ever, it is now or never for the sake of America's finest that we have that commander in chief who will respect them and honor them."

Palin called his arrest "the elephant in the room"
and said of her son and other war veterans, "they come back a bit different, they come back hardened, they come back wondering if there is that respect for what it is that their fellow soldiers and airmen, and every other member of the military, has given to the country."

Track Palin, 26, spent a year in Iraq after enlisting on Sept. 11, 2007.

He was arrested on Monday in Wasilla, Alaska, and charged with domestic violence assault on a female, interfering with a report of domestic violence and possession of a weapon while intoxicated, according to Dan Bennett, a spokesman for the Wasilla Police Department.
But really - Track? They should have a few more kids and name them Spoor and Fewmets
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wesw wrote:bob dole says that he is ok with trump as pres.....
So am I.
It's only a few hundred miles to the Canadian border, and I understand that Thunder Bay isn't all that bad of a city.
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:ok

Your collective inability to acknowledge this obvious truth makes you all look like fools.


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Bicycle Bill wrote:
wesw wrote:bob dole says that he is ok with trump as pres.....
So am I.
It's only a few hundred miles to the Canadian border, and I understand that Thunder Bay isn't all that bad of a city.
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That's not what I've heard.... North Bay OTOH I already might want to retire there.
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His choice to make a big deal out of Palin endorsing him just solidifies my inner contention that this was all a billionaire club joke that has gotten out of hand and now needs a stake through its heart. Palin is the perfect stake.

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Washington (CNN) Former Sen. Bob Dole said in a new interview Wednesday that Sen. Ted Cruz would be even worse for the Republican Party than Donald Trump were he to win the presidential nomination -- describing "cataclysmic" and "wholesale losses" for the GOP if Cruz prevails.

In an interview with The New York Times, the former presidential nominee said Cruz would also be worse at governing than Trump, saying the Texas senator has made enemies in Washington.

"I don't know how he's going to deal with Congress," Dole told the Times. "Nobody likes him."

Trump, on the other hand, could "probably work with Congress, because he's, you know, he's got the right personality and he's kind of a deal-maker," Dole added.

Dole has endorsed former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and previously said he might "oversleep" on Election Day if Cruz ends up the nominee
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I'm waiting for someone to fact-check her sons military records to see if it was PTSD or "too drunk to remember straight" which he is suffering from.
Many a vet "self medicates" with alcohol (or other drugs) trying to control (drown out) their PTSD.
I meet a lot of them in the rooms. My sponsor is one such vet.

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For those more concerned about vets than about bashing Track Palin (what a stupid name to hang on a kid) merely because his mother is Sarah Palin - this from 2009 about PTSD and vets (not about Track):
DENVER - Soldiers from a Colorado unit accused in nearly a dozen slayings since returning home - including a couple gunned down as they put up a garage sale sign - could be showing hostility fueled by intense combat in Iraq, where the troops suffered heavy losses and told of witnessing war crimes, the military said Wednesday.

In what was billed as its most comprehensive study to date of violent crimes and combat exposure, the Army looked at soldiers from the 4th Brigade Combat Team, 4th Infantry Division - nicknamed the Lethal Warriors - who were accused in a spate of five killings around Colorado Springs, home to Fort Carson, in 2007 and 2008.

Six other slayings involving unit soldiers occurred in Colorado and other states since 2005.

"This investigation suggest a possible association between increasing levels of combat exposure and risk for negative behavioral outcomes," the study said.

Army investigators compared the Fort Carson unit of about 3,700 soldiers with a similarly sized unit and found it suffered more combat deaths in Iraq and was deployed there longer.

"This deployment experienced higher levels of combat intensity," the report said, adding that the soldiers also faced "significant disruptions in family-social support."

At risk of violence Lt. Gen. Eric B. Schoomaker, the Army's surgeon general, said Wednesday the unit's crime cluster appeared to be unique among Army bases and that its combat exposure and length of deployments are just two factor officials are looking at.

"We're starting to look into the deployments and ... how it's related with attitudes and behavior," Schoomaker said.

The accused soldiers also were at risk of violence because of prior criminal activity, drug and alcohol abuse, and mental health issues,according to Schoomaker, Lt. Gen. Michael D. Rochelle, the Army's deputy chief of staff, and Army West Division Commander Maj. Gen. Mark Graham.
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