Is Trump Just Plain Nuts?

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:24 pm

Burning Petard wrote:I must not be paying attention. I have not noticed the Donald doing anything to damage himself in the last 24 hours.

snailgate

He's been able to do that for a day or two before...

However...

Tonight he has a rally in Green Bay Wisconsin, and none of the state's major GOP Office holders, (Walker, Ryan, Sen. Ron Johnson or anyone else) has deigned to attend...

And now there's this:

“Sad day in America:” Republican Wisconsin Assembly speaker calls out Donald Trump

MADISON — Republican Wisconsin Assembly Speaker Robin Vos says he is embarrassed about Donald Trump being the GOP presidential nominee, calling it a “sad day in America.”

But he tells The Associated Press that he’s not rescinding his support for Trump because he says Democrat Hillary Clinton would be worse.

Vos wrote a column Friday in advance of a Trump rally in Green Bay. He calls Trump out for saying “stupid things” and for praising House Speaker Paul Ryan’s primary opponent. Trump also said this week he was not ready to endorse Ryan.

Vos says “we are Ryan Republicans here in Wisconsin, not Trump Republicans.”

In the interview, Vos says Trump needs to apologize for his comments about Ryan.

None of the top-ranking Wisconsin Republicans are going to the Trump event.

http://fox6now.com/2016/08/05/sad-day-i ... ald-trump/

I suspect that Trump will come loaded for bear tonight...

Though I see that Pence will also be with him...

It appears that the campaign is trying to set more joint Trump/Pence appearances rather than independent appearances for Trump...

I guess the hope is that Pence will sort of be Trump's "Sober Companion", and help keep him off the Crazy Sauce...

RayThom · Post by **RayThom** » Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:41 pm

The Madness of King Donald:

http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/Dona ... tm#showall

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:50 pm

The problem with that list is that it's nowhere near comprehensive...

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:37 pm

Aw damn, it looks like Trump is going to try to reign in The Crazy, at least for tonight:

Trump expected to endorse Ryan Friday

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump is expected to endorse House Speaker Paul Ryan on Friday, moving to mend an intra-party rift that has put the Republican presidential nominee at odds with its highest-ranking elected official.
Trump's endorsement of Ryan would come at an 8 p.m. ET rally in Green Bay, Wisconsin, two sources said.

The move comes just days ahead of Ryan's Tuesday primary matchup with challenger Paul Nehlen, who has played up Trump's refusal to back the speaker -- as well as Ryan's tepid support for Trump.
It's not clear that Ryan is keen to receive Trump's endorsement. He repeatedly told Wisconsin radio stations in recent days that he's only seeking endorsements from the voters in his district, and a Ryan aide said he hadn't received word as of early Friday afternoon of Trump's plans.

"We have no knowledge of this and it's a question for their campaign," the aide said.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/05/politics/ ... paul-ryan/

I was really hoping he'd be so pissed at Ryan for not showing up at his rally that he'd double down on not endorsing him...And also attack Scott Walker, and Ron Johnson, and the GOP Speaker of The Wisconsin State Legislature for good measure...

Well, we'll see just what kind of an "endorsement" he makes once he's out on the stage in front of his peeps...

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:33 am

This is hilarious...

He just endorsed Ryan, McCain and Kelly Ayotte, staring down at a piece of paper he's reading from, with absolutely no enthusiasm ...

And talking about Reagan...

Again, just reading the words with absolutely no emotional or sincere connection to what he was saying ...

I can imagine Reince Priebus standing off stage in a black ski mask with a machine gun pointed at Drumpf's head...

"Just read what's written on the paper"...

rubato · Post by **rubato** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 12:52 am

After what he has already done his endorsement is of zero practical value in getting votes. More negative than anything.

yrs,
rubato

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:05 am

After what he has already done his endorsement is of zero practical value in getting votes

Well, that political analysis is probably correct...

(Even coming as it does, from a person with less understanding of contemporary US political dynamics then my chihuahuas, and far less understanding of contemporary US political dynamics then my parrot...)

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:17 am

Even in this speech, he had to talk again about "wouldn't it be great to be friends with Russia" when his pro-Putin's Russia stance has a had a lot to do with why he's now losing Republican votes, and is below 40% in so many national and swing state polls...

Bicycle Bill · Post by **Bicycle Bill** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 1:57 am

Lord Jim wrote:
After what he has already done his endorsement is of zero practical value in getting votes
Well, that political analysis is probably correct...

(Even coming as it does, from a person with less understanding of contemporary US political dynamics then my chihuahuas, and far less understanding of contemporary US political dynamics then my parrot...)

You're welcome.

-"BB"-

RayThom · Post by **RayThom** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 5:26 am

Quick...
"Please Sign Our Petition To Recall Trump!

There is one inescapable conclusion. Donald Trump, at his current trajectory, will be defeated by Hillary Clinton in a landslide."
http://www.freethedelegates.com/recall_ ... edelegates

FreeTheDelegates.com is turning into another progressive public policy advocacy group and political action committee similar to MoveOn.com which started with opposition to the impeachment of Clinton the 1st. It then morphed into supporting all things liberal.

FTD's earlier mission was to restructure RNC delegate rules but is now morphing into a coalition to somehow enforce vague RNC rules regarding a bona fide nominee's recall. God only knows what FTD's next mission will be. Regardless, I wish them luck -- they'll need it.

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:59 am

"Please Sign Our Petition To Recall Trump!

There is one inescapable conclusion. Donald Trump, at his current trajectory, will be defeated by Hillary Clinton in a landslide."

I got that email Ray...(and of course signed their petition)

Here's the full text:

Subject: Recall Trump

Jim,

There is one inescapable, sad conclusion. Donald Trump will be defeated by Hillary Clinton in a landslide.

After nomination, Trump has been his own worst enemy. From insulting a Gold Star family and refusing to exhibit a shred of humility, revealing plans to form super PACs to attack fellow Republicans, to almost hourly gaffes - his continued candidacy will ensure certain defeat in both his presidential election and other down-ticket races. It has now been widely-reported that Trump is abandoning the sage guidance of experienced, top-level campaign advisors. Life-long Republican voters are now defecting to the Clinton and Governor Gary Johnson.

Trump is himself prepared to admit defeat - actively calling the established electoral system "rigged" in an effort to soften the blow for his eventual defeat. Even the Clinton camp is pulling ads from what were previously considered battleground states!

It does not have to be this way.

There are several rules that members of the Republican National Committee can use to recall Trump as the Republican nominee. Under Rule 9(a), the Republican National Committee may fill "vacancies which may occur by reason of death, declination, or otherwise" of the Presidential nominee. "Otherwise" is open-ended and not defined.

However, it is defined elsewhere in the Rules of the Republican Party (when dealing with officers or members) to include disqualification and removal. Who believes that Trump's post-convention behavior - at a minimum - means that he is disqualified from continuing to carry the Republican nomination?

In order to declare the Republican nomination of President of the United States vacant and to fill the vacancy, either the Chairman or just 10% of the voting members of the Republican National Committee need to call a meeting.

This action must be completed urgently and without delay prior to the printing of ballots for the general election.

Please sign our petition to add your name to our call to #recalltrump. We must defeat Hillary NOW! And without delay.

Add your name to our Petition, and send a message : RECALL TRUMP AS THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE!

Regina Thomson
Executive Director
http://www.freethedelegates.com

You'll notice what's missing from that...

A plea for money...

And specifically because they did not make a plea for money, after I signed the petition, I made a small contribution...

I may disagree with most of these folks on "the social issues" but I love their "never say die" tenacity...

And if they want to fight the good fight to get Trump removed as the nominee, I am there...

Count me in...

Bicycle Bill · Post by **Bicycle Bill** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 4:39 pm

Normally, LJ, I would say something along the lines of "better the devil you know than the devil you don't" because there's no information as to who they (the RNC) have waiting in the wings; but Trump is *SO* obviously the wrong choice for any position other than the Grand Imperial Kleagle of the Klan you realize that no matter who they select — Cruz, Rubio, Kasich, Carson, even Speaker of the House Paul Ryan — he's *GOT* to be better than Ding-a-ling Donald.

On the other hand, living as I have under the thumb of Snottie Wanker and a Republican-controlled legislature up here in Wisconsin I would just as soon continue to see Trump play out his role as a loose cannon on deck. But that's just my personal feelings on the matter.

And because I still love my state and my country (and hate what the Republicans have done to it over the past eight years) I hope that if Donald is shown the door by the RNC that he sticks to his earlier threats to run a third-party campaign. That way he will factionalize and split the Republican party so badly that they would become totally meaningless and will have to spend the next two election cycles regrouping.

-"BB"-

rubato · Post by **rubato** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 7:24 pm

Why would anyone think that the Republicans, who picked Trump out of the pile kissed his head and blessed him as their choice, are going to have any better judgement now?

These are the same idiots who chose Bush II and we are still paying for that catastrophically, colossally, abysmally, and horrifically stupid choice (albeit aided by a corrupt USC). We will continue to pay trillions more for his idiotic lying in Iraq and we are barely out of the economic collapse the GOP engineered.

yrs,
rubato

Big RR · Post by **Big RR** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 7:29 pm

Well we're lucky the Obama administration prosecuted so many of those who were responsible for the economic collapse, aren't we? And set forth banking regulations to prevent this from happening again, right?

Wait, they didn't? Were were they forbidden to by their corporate donors?

rubato · Post by **rubato** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 7:39 pm

Big RR wrote:Well we're lucky the Obama administration prosecuted so many of those who were responsible for the economic collapse, aren't we? And set forth banking regulations to prevent this from happening again, right?

Wait, they didn't? Were were they forbidden to by their corporate donors?

You mean the Republican congress. You will recall they are responsible for regulation of the banking industry. Obama cannot prosecute for things the GOP-led congress insists are legal.

yrs,
rubato

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 10:46 pm

Oh good lord...

You truly are relentlessly determined in your ignorance....

It's a genuinely impressive display...

I've never known anyone with such an iron willed determination to never learn anything...

You certainly stand out in that regard...

I assume your steadfastness in your ignorance must be a point of personal pride for you...

It reminds me of my favorite Winston Churchill quote:

"I can not help but admire the martial and commanding tone that The Right Honourable Gentleman adopts towards the facts...

He brooks no nonsense from them..."

Gob · Post by **Gob** » Sat Aug 06, 2016 11:35 pm

Jim, never forget;

"The difference between rubato's stupidity and genius, is that genius has its limits."

rubato · Post by **rubato** » Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:13 am

No response on-topic. Usual bullshit.

Meaning I was exactly right.

Proving how Trump and Bush got their support, they are too stupid to do anything else.

yrs,
rubato

Crackpot · Post by **Crackpot** » Sun Aug 07, 2016 12:59 am

You are aware of the political affiliation of Dodd-Frank aren't you?

Lord Jim · Post by **Lord Jim** » Sun Aug 07, 2016 1:25 am

No response on-topic. Usual bullshit.

LMFAO...

This from the clown who never has anything on offer other than his tedious, predicable, brain-dead, Johnny-One-Note shill shit...

I've known statues with pigeons shitting all over them, that exhibited more impressive intellectual capacity than you...

Hell, I've looked in the toilet bowl after releasing my bowels and seen something floating in the water that was far more knowledgeable, clever and intellectually engaging then you...

You really are the very definition of "low bar"...

You make Donald Trump look like a combination of Henry Kissinger, Albert Einstein, and Pope Francis...

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