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What, I'm sorry, Jim, were you saying something... *Yawwwwn...* Lol~
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
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Don't trouble yourself about it Tim...What, I'm sorry, Jim, were you saying something... *Yawwwwn...* Lol~
I think there's a Jersey Shore marathon on tonight...
That should hold your attention....
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Wow! That was probably the meanest nastiest thing that anyone has ever said to me, Jim.
You may just as well have cut off my balls, stuffed them in my mouth and then pissed on my bloody corpse.
Frankly, I'm at a loss for a superlative to describe how offended I am...
Harsh dude...
You may just as well have cut off my balls, stuffed them in my mouth and then pissed on my bloody corpse.
Frankly, I'm at a loss for a superlative to describe how offended I am...
Harsh dude...
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.
Arthur Schopenhauer-
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Jersey shore? Isn't that the one about slappers mating with Neanderthals?
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Nah, Neanderthals would be too intelligent to be featured on Jersey Shore.
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Even Castro's getting in on the fun:
RealClearPolitics wrote:Fidel Castro lambasted the Republican presidential race as the greatest competition of "idiocy and ignorance" the world has ever seen in a column published Wednesday, and also took shots at the news media and foreign governments for seizing on the death of a Cuban prisoner to demand greater respect for human rights.
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The latest polls have Romney rebounding somewhat in Florida, the newest one, (conducted just yesterday) actually has him back up by eight:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... -1597.html
So maybe the Florida voters have sobered up and seriously started to contemplate what a complete catastrophe a Gingrich nomination would be for the party.
If Romney can start to get his act together, then maybe we can avoid the nuclear option...(a brokered convention)
But he still has to figure out some way to deal articulately and effectively with the whole Top Hat and Monocle thing in a way that will connect with average people, or he will enable Team Obama to feed him into a wood chipper with it...
Rick Santorum is absolutely right about one thing; for the GOP nominee to win, the election has to be about Obama's record.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls ... -1597.html
So maybe the Florida voters have sobered up and seriously started to contemplate what a complete catastrophe a Gingrich nomination would be for the party.
If Romney can start to get his act together, then maybe we can avoid the nuclear option...(a brokered convention)
But he still has to figure out some way to deal articulately and effectively with the whole Top Hat and Monocle thing in a way that will connect with average people, or he will enable Team Obama to feed him into a wood chipper with it...
Rick Santorum is absolutely right about one thing; for the GOP nominee to win, the election has to be about Obama's record.
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Analogy:
The current situation (which is, shall we say, "fluid") is like the street fight where the big strong guy is getting pummelled by the little feisty guy, and everyone around the fight is yelling at the big guy, "IT'S OK TO FIGHT BACK! HIT HIM!!"
Mitt is the Big Guy. He has an excellent background, good personality, good looks, and a ton of money. Newt is the little, obnoxious guy who is peppering the big guy with jabs, low blows, and whatever it takes to hurt him.
But for reasons unknown to us spectators, Mitt has been unable to fight back effectively, despite all the tools he seemingly has. He has been pilloried for not paying enough in taxes, but has never pointed out that he is at the stage of life where he is living off his investment income, and we rightly tax investment income at a lower rate than wages - because the majority of taxes were paid when the money tha funded those investments was being earned. And so on.
He has never made a good case about why "Romney-care" was right for Massachusetts, but Obama-care is wrong for the Country. It's not that difficult a case to make.
His proposals on taxes, immigration, fiscal responsibility, and so forth are EXACTLY what the Republicans want and the America needs, but for some reason he has not been able to sell it.
Now his charges against Newt are factually "challenged," and seem quite petty, at least to me.
The situation is similar to what we had last time around, a majority of Republicans oppose all four of the remaining candidates. But this time, we have some great, undeclared candidates waiting in the wings. It is absolutely the right time for a brokered convention.
One must never forget that Barry consistently loses to a "generic Republican." That's who we need at the top of the ticket, and I don't think any of the four survivors fits the bill.
The current situation (which is, shall we say, "fluid") is like the street fight where the big strong guy is getting pummelled by the little feisty guy, and everyone around the fight is yelling at the big guy, "IT'S OK TO FIGHT BACK! HIT HIM!!"
Mitt is the Big Guy. He has an excellent background, good personality, good looks, and a ton of money. Newt is the little, obnoxious guy who is peppering the big guy with jabs, low blows, and whatever it takes to hurt him.
But for reasons unknown to us spectators, Mitt has been unable to fight back effectively, despite all the tools he seemingly has. He has been pilloried for not paying enough in taxes, but has never pointed out that he is at the stage of life where he is living off his investment income, and we rightly tax investment income at a lower rate than wages - because the majority of taxes were paid when the money tha funded those investments was being earned. And so on.
He has never made a good case about why "Romney-care" was right for Massachusetts, but Obama-care is wrong for the Country. It's not that difficult a case to make.
His proposals on taxes, immigration, fiscal responsibility, and so forth are EXACTLY what the Republicans want and the America needs, but for some reason he has not been able to sell it.
Now his charges against Newt are factually "challenged," and seem quite petty, at least to me.
The situation is similar to what we had last time around, a majority of Republicans oppose all four of the remaining candidates. But this time, we have some great, undeclared candidates waiting in the wings. It is absolutely the right time for a brokered convention.
One must never forget that Barry consistently loses to a "generic Republican." That's who we need at the top of the ticket, and I don't think any of the four survivors fits the bill.
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Dems are already focussing the next round of fundraising on Newt --- so thanks Rs, for helping us continue to stuff our coffers.
From today's email:
From today's email:
By the way, that comes from our own "top hat and monocle" guy, John Forbes Kerry . . . .Newt Gingrich’s economic plan: Make inner city kids go to work, and, as he boasted Monday night, make sure that Mitt Romney pays no taxes. The middle class can fight over the crumbs.
Contrast that with President Obama’s vision: Invest in American jobs. Strengthen our middle class. Pursue policies that work for everyone, not just the very top.
We know all too well what’s coming. Republicans will attack, assail and lie to destroy President Obama and usher in one-party rule. If the thought of President Gingrich leading a GOP Congress scares you beyond belief, then I’m asking for your urgent help.
“I ask no favor for my sex. All I ask of our brethren is that they take their feet off our necks.” ~ Ruth Bader Ginsburg, paraphrasing Sarah Moore Grimké
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Yep, please vote for Romney, it'll keep us foreigners amused!!Mormonism, the hot religious cult that swept the nation.
Just The Facts
Mormons believe The Book of Mormon was written by and named after one of it's supporting characters, who had the ghost of his son, Moroni, bid Joseph Smith publish it's contents, which were, essentially, Jesus fanfiction.
Formerly the Garden of Eden and the future site of New Jerusalem, Mormons believe that God called dibs on Jackson County, Missouri, specifically, as a sanctuary for those seeking religious freedom, which may come as a shock to anyone who's ever had to live in Missouri.
Notable Mormons include Glenn Beck, Stephenie Meyer, David Archuleta, and Aaron Eckhart.
In the early nineteenth century there was a Second Great Awakening in New England, the perfect time to make up a new denomination, as the local rubes were just wetting themselves with excitement about Christianity. Strangely enough, they were also dripping with piss over treasure hunting, but unfortunately for them, the metal detector hadn't been invented yet.
And Along Came Joseph Smith.
Professional scryer and purveyor of cake, beer, and the crazy white folk's yabble-dabble that was so stylish at the time. For a price young Smith could help you find your fortune with nothing but a hat full of rocks. Like the Miss Cleo of his day, his "for entertainment purposes only" hoodoo was getting him into a pant-load of trouble, but rather than feeling any understandable fear or remorse by this time, Smith was apparently filled with spiritual conflict, as he was surrounded by religions of every kind, (and by "every kind", we mean "every kind based on Christianity") and just didn't know which was the true church. Then, while on a soul searching walk in the woods, presumably on his way to a snake-oil seminar, a pillar of light in the sky, summoned by a glorious Nordic Jesus, pinned him to the ground. After the formality of a brief probing, NJ instructed Smith to create the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, a religion based on many plausible beliefs. As in the belief that magic underpants will protect you from sin, or that, after his resurrection and ascension into heaven, Jesus Christ returned to earth and -- rather than do a victory lap of the Middle East -- he went straight for Northern Missouri. Why not?
The Mormon church caught on like a wildfire of clean livin' and Manifest Destiny, but around 1844, in Nauvoo, Illinois, Smith had finally landed himself in prison on several charges, most harem-related. An angry mob came to deal him a taste of hillybilly learnin', but, assuming they were the legion sent to rescue him, Smith lost his chance to escape and was shot to death, falling out of a window.
Despite reports that Smith wished that he have no successor as President of the Church, or the fact that the next logical successor was Sidney Rigdon, Smith's First Counselor, apostle and crazy-beard enthusiast Brigham Young somehow managed argue his way into position of senior leader. Future governor of the territory of Utah, Young was what most people conjure in their minds when they think of Mormons. He put the pioneers to work building him settlements, recruited a blood-thirsty Jesus-freak militia, started a wife factory, revoked the priesthood for black church members (who he called "the seed of Cain"), waged a war on the United States Government, then deceived local Native Americans into helping him fight it, leading to the Mountain Meadows Massacre, the brutal slaughter of over one-hundred and twenty men, women and children. He also started the Tabernacle Choir.
In the insuring years, the Mormon church began to mellow out as they were allowed to carve their culture into the Utah landscape, and became a people known for their good behavior -- living clean lives, helping the needy, and baptizing dead people -- hardly ever doing a thing to draw scorn from the populous, until the late 1950s. Then the Osmonds came on the scene....
Read more: Mormons | Cracked.com http://www.cracked.com/funny-95-mormons/#ixzz1kae281N2
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Gobster, are you saying that one should not vote for Mitt Romney because he is a Mormon?
Do tell.
Fortunately or un, one does not have to resort to the ramblings of sophomoric wise-asses to document the - shall we say - unorthodoxies of Joe Smith and especially his early followers. The historical record - not to mention the Book of Mormon itself - are sufficient to demonstrate how incredibly preposterous this religion is. I double-dare anyone to try to read a single chapter of the BoM without either falling asleep or breaking down in convulsions of laughter.
BUT - and it's a big BUT - there is no sect in the U.S. that is more prosperous, more law-abiding, and more respectful of the best traditions of this great nation. They can be as goofy as they want when they worship, but they are a credit and an asset to this country.
Mitt's religion is irrelevant, and not a legitimate factor.
Do tell.
Fortunately or un, one does not have to resort to the ramblings of sophomoric wise-asses to document the - shall we say - unorthodoxies of Joe Smith and especially his early followers. The historical record - not to mention the Book of Mormon itself - are sufficient to demonstrate how incredibly preposterous this religion is. I double-dare anyone to try to read a single chapter of the BoM without either falling asleep or breaking down in convulsions of laughter.
BUT - and it's a big BUT - there is no sect in the U.S. that is more prosperous, more law-abiding, and more respectful of the best traditions of this great nation. They can be as goofy as they want when they worship, but they are a credit and an asset to this country.
Mitt's religion is irrelevant, and not a legitimate factor.
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No I'm saying that anyone who holds such lunatic beliefs may not be suitable president material.
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Name a religion that in your mind does not have "lunatic beliefs."
(And before you answer, recognize that being an atheist is a de facto disqualification for public office in most of the U.S.).
(And before you answer, recognize that being an atheist is a de facto disqualification for public office in most of the U.S.).
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I believe he's got you there, Old Darling....Name a religion that in your mind does not have "lunatic beliefs."
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All of them do, some more than others.dgs49 wrote:Name a religion that in your mind does not have "lunatic beliefs."
Just goes to show what a lunatic system you have there then. I may have mentioned that before.dgs49 wrote:(And before you answer, recognize that being an atheist is a de facto disqualification for public office in most of the U.S.).
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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Would that we were all as smart as you.
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Strive Dave, Strive...
Practice makes perfect!
Practice makes perfect!
“If you trust in yourself, and believe in your dreams, and follow your star. . . you'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy.”
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You did?I may have mentioned that before.
Well that just goes to show how badly I've been paying attention; it comes as complete news to me....
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Okay, I have a question...
Who was that man, and what has he done with Mitt Romney?
Last night Romney turned in what was far and away his best debate performance; he was prepared, lively, took it straight to Gingrich (who seemed really knocked off his game by this unexpected turn of events) and even finally, at long last, gave the kind of unapologetic straight to the point answers about his personal wealth that he should have been giving two weeks ago...
I hardly recognized the man....
On Morning Joe this morning author and pundit Jeff Greenfield suggested that Romney should be tested for performance enhancing drugs....
Santorum also had a strong performance, and Paul was, well, Paul, but for the first time the weakest performer on the stage was Leroy....
Prior to last night's debate 5 polls taken in Florida in the last couple of days since the 24th all have Romney up over Gingrich between seven and nine points, and Romney didn't do anything last night but help himself.
The next polls may show Newt losing support to both Romney and Santorum....
This has been such a crazy race you can never say any thing definitively, and the four days between now and the primary are an eternity given how volatile and fluid this has been, but it does appear for the moment at least, that the dreaded specter of a Gingrich nomination is receding....
Who was that man, and what has he done with Mitt Romney?
Last night Romney turned in what was far and away his best debate performance; he was prepared, lively, took it straight to Gingrich (who seemed really knocked off his game by this unexpected turn of events) and even finally, at long last, gave the kind of unapologetic straight to the point answers about his personal wealth that he should have been giving two weeks ago...
I hardly recognized the man....
On Morning Joe this morning author and pundit Jeff Greenfield suggested that Romney should be tested for performance enhancing drugs....
Santorum also had a strong performance, and Paul was, well, Paul, but for the first time the weakest performer on the stage was Leroy....
Prior to last night's debate 5 polls taken in Florida in the last couple of days since the 24th all have Romney up over Gingrich between seven and nine points, and Romney didn't do anything last night but help himself.
The next polls may show Newt losing support to both Romney and Santorum....
This has been such a crazy race you can never say any thing definitively, and the four days between now and the primary are an eternity given how volatile and fluid this has been, but it does appear for the moment at least, that the dreaded specter of a Gingrich nomination is receding....