Should Barry Dump Joe?

[Lord Jim]

I'm glad you finally came clean about that Sue...

[Joe Guy]

What's a long form mirth certificate?

[Lord Jim]

It's what you get when you graduate from Clown College.....

[Joe Guy]

[MajGenl.Meade]

[Obama is a Muslim Kenyan Socialist Fascist foreigner who hates America and pals around with terrorists while plotting a government takeover of healthcare through ACORN voter fraud so everyone's grandma will be dragged before a death panel while being forced to have government abortions at FEMA reeducation camps after mandating that your pastor/priest gay-marry you to the ghost of Saul Alinsky

No sorry, that can't be right. Both my grandmas are dead already (you know the reason why) and voting in Chicago

[dgs49]

Just the facts, ma'am...


Who would have guessed that Barack Obama was the original birther, peddling the story that he was born in Kenya long before Donald Trump, Sheriff Joe and assorted nut jobs took it up as a crusade in fantasy and futility?

Mr. Obama's literary agent put together a little booklet with a biographical sketch in 1991 to promote a book he never finished with a description of the author as "the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review ... born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."

The literary agent now insists it was her mistake and Obama never saw the booklet until it was published. An unlikely story, but like everything else about him, it's an element in the portrait of a composite president, a man with composite ambitions, composite convictions and a composite past populated by girlfriends he now concedes were composites, too.

This new piece of his composite history was found by the website Breitbart.com and disclosed as another factoid in the life of the composite president. Breitbart.com takes pains to say that, like nearly everyone else in America, it's satisfied that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

Obama's biographical sketch describes his mother as "an anthropologist" and his father as "a Kenyan finance minister," though his mother had only studied anthropology in university and his father was little more than a clerk in the Kenyan finance ministry. This was as fanciful as the factoid that Obama was "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."

But in the circles in which young Obama moved when he was just out of Harvard, a birth in a place closer to the equator was more to be desired than birth in capitalist, imperialist and racist America. Young Barack's best pal just after he left Harvard Yard was a Pakistani, and if young Barack nursed ambitions to one day run for president of the United States, he probably didn't know that the Constitution requires the president to be a "natural-born" citizen. He was a graduate of Harvard Law, after all, and it's unfair to assume that he had been exposed to the Constitution by his professors there. As late as 2007 his biographical sketch still boasted of a Kenyan birth.

A composite past is fashionable this year in certain political circles. Elizabeth Warren, the Democrat trying to unseat the Republican incumbent senator in Massachusetts, concocted a splendid past from her native Oklahoma, describing herself as 1/32 Cherokee Indian.

Her story unraveled, just as the president's boast of Kenyan birth unraveled, to considerable mirth and merriment. When Mrs. Warren contributed a Cherokee recipe for Oklahoma Crab Mayonnaise for a cookbook called "Pow Wow Chow," she invited skepticism that crabs were native to Oklahoma. Columnist Mark Steyn rose gallantly to her defense, suggesting that crabs are even celebrated in the state song ("Ooooooklahoma, where the crabs come sweepin' down the plain ... "

Kenyan births and crabs from Oklahoma certainly seem unlikely. But those are their stories, and they're sticking to all of them.

-- Wes Pruden

[Scooter]

Yet another unsourced piece of malarky?

[Gob]

you forgot the "enforced mandated dope smoking" Sue...

[Grim Reaper]

Breitbart.com takes pains to say that, like nearly everyone else in America, it's satisfied that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii.

If they were really that convinced, then they wouldn't have run the story at all. The only purpose to running this story is to keep people thinking he might not have been born in Hawaii.

And then there's jokers like Sheriff Joe Arpaio from Arizona who's wasting taxpayer money trying to investigate the birth certificate.

[dgs49]

Reaper, I suppose you really are this stupid.

The point of the article is that Barry allowed the Kenyan birth "factoid" to be published in situations where he thought it made him seem more exotic or heroic. The idea that a literary agent could have published this profile without first showing it to Barry is utterly unbelievable.

"Unsourced"? The writer of the essay is Wes Pruden, the secondary source is Breitbart-dot-com, and the particulars can be found on that site.

Unsourced? Are you shitting me? Do you think they made this up?

Fool.

[Scooter]

Unsourced? Are you shitting me? Do you think they made this up?

Uh, yes. What "book he never finished"? Which "literary agent"? Where is this "biographical sketch"?

I could make just as credible a claim that Sarah Palin wrote an unpublished book in which she admits to a lesbian affair with Michele Bachmann. Without identifying the source material, both stories are equally credible.

But this one happens to be a story you wish were true, so you swallowed it wholesale. And you call others "fool"?

Thanks for my laugh for the day.

[Grim Reaper]

Reaper, I suppose you really are this stupid.

When all you can do is question the intelligence of others, that greatly reduces any sort of point you try to make. That seems to be about all you can do, preface every post with how stupid you think the person you're replying to is. It's tiresome and doesn't do anything to promote discussion. It's more like you throwing a temper tantrum at the start of every post.

The point of the article is that Barry allowed the Kenyan birth "factoid" to be published in situations where he thought it made him seem more exotic or heroic. The idea that a literary agent could have published this profile without first showing it to Barry is utterly unbelievable.

The booklet was never actually used by President Obama. It was a booklet representing 90 people and was distributed to businesses colleagues in the publishing industry. And you'd only have some sort of point about your claim of "seeming more exotic or heroic" if you could find some sort of pattern where he did use "kenyan birth" more than this one single time. Because a single incident of this is more indicative of an accident than malicious intent.

[rubato]

Just the facts, ma'am...

"... Breitbart.com takes pains to say that, like nearly everyone else in America, it's satisfied that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. ... "

This is the Breitbart who bragged about lying when he edited videos to give a 180 degree false impression of what Ms Sherrod and many others had said.


" Two Missouri labor professors have been vindicated after a right-wing smear campaign almost cost them their jobs. Last month, the website BigGovernment.com—run by right-wing blogger Andrew Breitbart—posted footage of a labor relations class taught by University of Missouri professors Judy Ancel and Don Giljum. In the video, the professors appeared to make a number of statements backing the use of violence in the struggle for labor rights. But it turned out the video was edited in a way to distort their words—similar to recent video campaigns against ACORN, Planned Parenthood, NPR and former FDA official, Shirley Sherrod. "I was just appalled, because I knew it was me speaking, but it wasn’t saying what I had said in class," said Judy Ancel, director of the Institute for Labor Studies, University of Missouri-Kansas City. [includes rush transcript]
... "

There was a time when the Republican party would have repudiated such slime instead of making them rich.

yrs,
rubato

[Crackpot]

and the same Breitbart that is now dead

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/2 ... 42157.html

[RayThom]

Whether it be Barack and Joe *OR* Barack and Hillary. Regardless, it won't be a slam-dunk but the vote won't land up with the Supremes, either.

This morning I read a poll that had Mitten ahead by a 3% margin. At lunch time I read a poll that had Barack ahead by 5%. I bet Sunday's NBC "Press the Meat" has Ron Paul gaining fast.

http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/cus ... =00&p0=263

[rubato]

and the same Breitbart that is now dead

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/04/2 ... 42157.html

Although his name, his lies, and the party who supported him live on.

yrs,
rubato

[Lord Jim]

When all you can do is question the intelligence of others, that greatly reduces any sort of point you try to make. That seems to be about all you can do, preface every post with how stupid you think the person you're replying to is. It's tiresome and doesn't do anything to promote discussion. It's more like you throwing a temper tantrum at the start of every post.

I like that Grimmy...

With just a couple of changes:

When all you can do is question the intelligence of others, that greatly reduces any sort of point you try to make. That seems to be about all you can do, preface end every post with how stupid you think the person you're replying to is. It's tiresome and doesn't do anything to promote discussion. It's more like you throwing a temper tantrum at the start end of every post.

I can think of another poster it would fit like a glove...A fellow who ends nearly every response he posts by saying "how stupid" he thinks the person he's replying to is....

If you don't mind, I may borrow that one....

[Andrew D]

JOE BIDEN IN Sept 1987 during his first presidential campaign:

"Why is it that Joe Biden is the first in his family ever to go a university? Why is it that my wife... is the first in her family to ever go to college? Is it because our fathers and mothers were not bright? ...Is it because they didn't work hard? My ancestors who worked in the coal mines of northeast Pennsylvania and would come after 12 hours and play football for four hours? It's because they didn't have a platform on which to stand."

Is there any evidence that any of that is untrue?

We are told that this is "someone else's personal narrative". But is there any evidence that any of it is untrue?

Or is it just simply that he borrowed someone else's phrasing -- and gave that person due credit on numerous occasions -- and the right-wingers, being totally unable to show any falsehood in it, debase themselves with groundless charges of plagiarism?

I'll take door number two, Monty ....

[dgs49]

Andrew, as you very well know, this was just one example in a long line of (discovered) plagiarized materials used by Biden over the years. Would that plagiarism were his worst fault, but far from it.

And what he said is totally unremarkable - a common story all around the U.S. I was the first one in my family to go to college, as was my wife in her family. So what?

[dgs49]

Part of the "made up" stuff about the fictitious booklet:

...a promotional booklet produced in 1991 by Barack Obama's then-literary agency, Acton & Dystel, which touts Obama as "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."

The booklet, which was distributed to "business colleagues" in the publishing industry, includes a brief biography of Obama among the biographies of eighty-nine other authors represented by Acton & Dystel. It also promotes Obama's anticipated first book, Journeys in Black and White--which Obama abandoned, later publishing Dreams from My Father instead.
Obama’s biography in the booklet is as follows:

“Barack Obama, the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. The son of an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, he attended Columbia University and worked as a financial journalist and editor for Business International Corporation. He served as project coordinator in Harlem for the New York Public Interest Research Group, and was Executive Director of the Developing Communities Project in Chicago’s South Side. His commitment to social and racial issues will be evident in his first book, Journeys in Black and White.”

The booklet, which is thirty-six pages long, is printed in blue ink (and, on the cover, silver/grey ink), using offset lithography. It purports to celebrate the fifteenth anniversary of Acton & Dystel, which was founded in 1976.

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Surely, Barry never saw this before it was sent out. Surely.