WWIII? Or just a little fuckery?

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Trump has been waffling like crazy over Ukraine one day Pro Putin one day pro Ukraine. Putin fucked Russia so badly that having him as an ally is no longer beneficial to Trump but he has to square that with his anti-Ukraine campaign. So in short he is once again exhibiting his complete failure at all things foreign policy.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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liberty wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:07 am
I don't know it's just a feeling; I'm really concerned about what he might not do the same as if Biden was in office.
Your "intuition" came after the shit-brain dictator Trump gladly handed over two concessions that Putin really wants: that Ukraine will not be allowed to join NATO and that no territory stolen by the Russian shit-brain dictator will be returned to Ukraine?

I have a feeling Trump is going to rename the Gulf of Mexico but I can't guess what it will be . . .
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Have you guys contacted your senators and representative to express support for Ukraine?
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liberty wrote:
Wed Feb 19, 2025 6:13 am
Have you guys contacted your senators and representative to express support for Ukraine?
I live in Massachusetts and receive weekly email updates from my Representative and Senators - Auchincloss, Warren and Markey. I send them snail mail correspondence once yearly to thank them for their continued excellent representation of me in Congress.

I understand that there is little they can do on Ukraine in the face of this wrecking ball you fucking idiots elected to the White House. Article II grants him these powers and you fuckers are the ones who are responsible for betraying the people of Ukraine and eastern Europe, possibly all of Europe.
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We live in a world in which a confident lie is valued far more than a quietly expressed truth. And we want to get rid of the Department of Education.

And society rewards lies. I'm on Facebook a lot - I find it easy to stay in contact with friends, share pictures and jokes and funny memes of cats beating up on much bigger dogs. Occasionally I will find something so utterly wrong that I feel compelled to comment. It might be apolitical - maybe a math problem that someone has totally wrapped. So I comment - along, it seems, with half the internet - you've got this one upside down and the answer is x=42 . And then I realize that the OP is rewarded based on responses - the more responses, the more he gets from You Tube or FB. I don't respond to a math problem where the OP is clear and logical and gets it right. Net result: the more you are wrong, the more money you make. What a world and how did we get here?

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Now Trump is blaming the war on Ukraine.

“And why did you attack that mugger by throwing your body on his knife sir?”

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Michael de Adder is one of the most brilliant political cartoonists working today. A Canadian, of course!
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I'm putting this new related post in this thread because the title is more relevant than ever.

85% of the German electorate showed up to vote, and 20% of them chose the new German Nazi party - the AfD. Conservatives control Germany and will doubtless use the US abandonment of Ukraine as justification for solving their economic woes by rebuilding the German military industrial complex and the German military.

We spent decades subsidizing NATO and leading NATO to avoid a re-militarized Europe - and in particular a re-militarized re-Nazified Germany.

It seems we cannot create any really new stories, just the same old stories over and over with better tech.
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In recent times, there have been a number of times (with democrat and republican administrations) I have been ashamed of the actions of the US--this is another of those times, and a very serious concern. But what can you expect with a president who has no idea as to what he is doing (even though his handlers do).

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BoSoxGal wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:57 pm
85% of the German electorate showed up to vote, and 20% of them chose the new German Nazi party - the AfD. Conservatives control Germany and will doubtless use the US abandonment of Ukraine as justification for solving their economic woes by rebuilding the German military industrial complex and the German military.
The AfD is now where the Nazi Party was in 1930. Will the U.S. abandonment of Europe entice them to remake Eastern Europe to service themselves? Lebensraum 2.0, anyone?
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Scooter wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2025 8:50 pm
BoSoxGal wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2025 12:57 pm
85% of the German electorate showed up to vote, and 20% of them chose the new German Nazi party - the AfD. Conservatives control Germany and will doubtless use the US abandonment of Ukraine as justification for solving their economic woes by rebuilding the German military industrial complex and the German military.
The AfD is now where the Nazi Party was in 1930. Will the U.S. abandonment of Europe entice them to remake Eastern Europe to service themselves? Lebensraum 2.0, anyone?
As I've said probably exhaustively, I'm descended from Nazis myself. I'm tremendously proud of Germany on the one hand and all our amazing contributions to human culture and advancement through science . . . but of course there is SO much of which to be ashamed.

I know that Germany has had compulsory education for generations in attempt to undermine the Nazi hearts, but you can't legislate what's in a person's heart and knowing firsthand how strong the Nazi is in my brothers and sister here in the USA who were only raised by US Nazi sympathizers, I can only imagine how strong the Nazi is in many over there. The 20% who voted for AfD are not the whole of the problem and we all know that. Given the right circumstances . . .

I do believe that the likely Chancellor Merz is reacting to our fascist president the only way that is reasonable - Europe MUST re-arm and become capable of defending itself and Ukraine without USA's help as previously was a given. But of course that opens the door to all the pain that comes of putting militarization ahead of people, while raising Putin's threat hackles and providing the machinery that could go terribly wrong in the perfect storm of awful that could easily arise.

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What Trump fails to realize - and yes, that is a very long list - is that US defending Europe has always been out of self-interest. And I'm not trying to say that there is anything wrong with that. It took a while in WW1, and an attack on Pearl Harbor in WW2, but the US eventually understood, reluctantly, that they had to be there. Not much has changed. My guess is that China is looking hungrily at Taiwan now.

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Is Carville right that Trump will melt down in 6 weeks? I can’t see how it can happen unless the (republican) congress grows a pair and overtly blocks his abuse of authority over areas formerly controlled by them nominally and in practically by a class of professionals expert in highly specific fields.

But practicing cowardice as they have been doing only makes people more cowardly. Still, hope for the best.

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MajGenl.Meade wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 11:54 am
liberty wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:07 am
I don't know it's just a feeling; I'm really concerned about what he might not do the same as if Biden was in office.
Your "intuition" came after the shit-brain dictator Trump gladly handed over two concessions that Putin really wants: that Ukraine will not be allowed to join NATO and that no territory stolen by the Russian shit-brain dictator will be returned to

I have a feeling Trump is going to rename the Gulf of Mexico but I can't guess what it will be . . .
Arguing with stupid is one reason this forum is dead.

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rubato wrote:
Thu Feb 27, 2025 10:53 am
MajGenl.Meade wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 11:54 am
liberty wrote:
Sat Feb 15, 2025 8:07 am
I don't know it's just a feeling; I'm really concerned about what he might not do the same as if Biden was in office.
Your "intuition" came after the shit-brain dictator Trump gladly handed over two concessions that Putin really wants: that Ukraine will not be allowed to join NATO and that no territory stolen by the Russian shit-brain dictator will be returned to

I have a feeling Trump is going to rename the Gulf of Mexico but I can't guess what it will be . . .
Arguing with stupid is one reason this forum is dead.
I would never argue with you, rube
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Sunday, 18 May 2014

Fascism: I sometimes fear...


I sometimes fear that
people think that fascism arrives in fancy dress
worn by grotesques and monsters
as played out in endless re-runs of the Nazis.

Fascism arrives as your friend.
It will restore your honour,
make you feel proud,
protect your house,
give you a job,
clean up the neighbourhood,
remind you of how great you once were,
clear out the venal and the corrupt,
remove anything you feel is unlike you...

It doesn't walk in saying,
"Our programme means militias, mass imprisonments, transportations, war and persecution."

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I didn't think Trump was going to top "They're eating the dogs......they're eating the cats" but now he's taken it to a level of idiocy never seen before....





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