trump is serious!!!!!

[Lord Jim]

This would also explain why they decided to run late deliberating yesterday; if they were down to one count they may have thought they could wrap it up last night...

It's also possible of course that they've reached unanimous guilty verdicts on some of the counts and unanimous not guilty verdicts on one or more, but my flabber will be completely gasted if they've actually reached 12-0 not guilty verdicts on 17 of the 18 counts...

[Guinevere]

4PM today - Michael Cohen pleads to *something* in the SDNY. Press conference with the Deputy USA following. Just a plea deal, not yet any cooperation agreement (according to sources).

Just to add to the tension . . .

[Lord Jim]

Meanwhile, back in Alexandria, the jury has sent the judge another note...

[Guinevere]

10 counts on which they cannot reach consensus.

Nail biting.

[Guinevere]

Judge is interviewing each juror. Wow.

[Guinevere]

And now declares mistrial on 10 counts where they cannot reach a verdict. Verdict to be read on 8 counts- reading them now. At least one guilty.

[Guinevere]

Guilty on 8 counts.

5 tax fraud counts
2 bank fraud counts
I hiding foreign accounts count

All felonies. Bye bye Paul.

[Guinevere]

Cohen pleading guilty on 8 counts, including unlawful corporate campaign contribution, tax fraud, and false statements.

[Lord Jim]

The other 10 charges in the Manafort trial hung, no acquittals...

Big news day, none of it good for Trump...

Watch for an announcement that somebody else has had their security clearance yanked as Il Boobce makes a yet another pathetic attempt to change the subject...

[Big RR]

Sounds like it could be deal time for both Manafort and Cohen; we can only hope. Did the deal Cohen made include a sentence, or will that be deferred (and maybe reduced for his cooperation)?

I'm waiting for the customary witch hunt claims, as well as how the Justice department ignored the email charges.

[Guinevere]

Cohen - at his allocution said the campaign finance violations occurred “At the direction and coordination of the candidate for federal office.” Going to jail for 4-5 years. Quite the day.

[Big RR]

I recall reading that the prosecutors were pushing for 5 years for Cohen, but I would imagine he could cooperate and get it reduced.

ETA: Interesting statement re the candidate.

According to CNN, Manafort could get up to 305 years for what he was convicted of.

[Lord Jim]

he says the campaign finance violations occurred “At the direction and coordination of the candidate for federal office.”

He just fingered Trump in a criminal conspiracy...

That's as somebody would say, YOOGE...

[Big RR]

you mean it's not a witch hunt?

[Sue U]

He just fingered Trump

Eeeeeewwwwwwww, you are gross!!!!!!!!!






But so is Trump also too.

[Guinevere]

So Cohen said this at his allocution, but he has not yet agreed to cooperate — so that statement still has to be proven. Will see how this plays out.

[Big RR]

sure but 5 years in Club Fed beats 5 years in Leavenworth, so unless he's pardoned, I'd bet he'll cooperate. Ditto for Manafort.

[Lord Jim]

Ditto for Manafort.

I hope you're right, but I don't know about Manafort....

I think there's a good chance he may be afraid of something worse than time in prison...

He worked for some very bad dudes...

He just fingered Trump

Eeeeeewwwwwwww, you are gross!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, in retrospect I probably should have gone with "implicated"...

[Lord Jim]

Guess what Fox News is covering right now...

A story about somebody who is in the country illegally who has been charged with murdering a college student...

[RayThom]

And now for a tranquil and quiet evening interlude.

Breathe deeply, and let the words wash all over you.