WWIII? Or just a little fuckery?

[Joe Guy]

Until now, I never thought I'd ever be thinking we were better off back when....





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[Burning Petard]

So Art II of the constitution says the Prexy can do whatever he wants in foreign policy and we can wait for the next election.

Short memory. Am I the only one who remembers filling out government security questionnaires that went on for pages: re you now or have your ever been a member any of these organizations? There was one on that list whose name caught my attention nd I had to look it up. If Trump manages to pull out of support for Ukraine --

Maybe it is time to revive the Abraham Lincoln Brigade.

snailgate.

[rubato]

Your "intuition" came after the shit-brain dictator Trump gladly handed over two concessions that Putin really wants: that Ukraine will not be allowed to join NATO and that no territory stolen by the Russian shit-brain dictator will be returned to

I have a feeling Trump is going to rename the Gulf of Mexico but I can't guess what it will be . . .

Arguing with stupid is one reason this forum is dead.

I would never argue with you, rube

Nor could you.

Yrs,
Rubato

[liberty]

When I was in the Air Force, I participated in a command sponsored mini management seminar. Some of the stuff I learned was how early experiences formed a person's opinion and attitudes, Trump is a child of the Vietnam War era; The things he learned were that a smart person is one that has bone Spurs and gets out of the draft like Bill Clinton, a hero of the Democrat Party, who lied to his draft board to gets out of the draft. And you don't challenge Russia they're too powerful they can destroy the world; there's just nothing you can do except don't make them angry and hope for a miracle. Remember your Vietnam attitudes; anyone who willingly went to the war was a war criminal and a baby burner and despicable and deserved to be hounded. When the enemy committed atrocities, they were understandable they were just a reaction to an unjust war.

I See the beginning of a disaster, I'm glad my grandson is a southerner, a rebel flag tattooed on his hand we'll get him out of the draft, good luck with your Children, you Yankees

[Joe Guy]

What lie did Clinton tell the "draft board" to get out of the draft?

Trump is a malignant narcissist. He only sees value in things that benefit him personally.

There is no draft. Your redneck grandson can't be drafted.

And don't worry. If Trump gets the US involved in a war, he will want us to fight on the side of the Russians, not against them.

[liberty]

We can't win a major war without a draft; the professional army is just not big enough. You can't see that?

[liberty]

Unfortunately ambushing a foreign leader for the sake of a public relations stunt is not a crime. If Congress could pass a resolution declaring Russia is an enemy, not a declaration of war, just a statement that Russia is our enemy it would then be illegal to say anything favorable about Russia. Maybe trump will fall for that.

However, if we lose Trump what happens to the struggle against illegal immigration, a runaway national debt, and China eating our lunch and putting our people out of work and stealing our secrets.

[Crackpot]

They improve?

[Bicycle Bill]

We can't win a major war without a draft; the professional army is just not big enough. You can't see that?

Well, if'n we get ever into a 'major war' and they DO have to reinstate a draft, that Rebel flag tattoo ain't gonna save your grandson.   They'll draft his raggedy ass as fast as anyone else.

Unless, of course, the South decides to secede (again) and then declare themselves neutral, like Sweden, Switzerland, or the Vatican City.   Who knows — maybe it'll go better for them this time around.

-"BB"-

[Joe Guy]

We can't win a major war without a draft; the professional army is just not big enough. You can't see that?

How much larger of an army than what the US has now would be needed to fight a major war?

[ex-khobar Andy]

Well that was a shitshow. Zelenskyy gave as good as he got although there were two of them. I noticed that the Secretary of State sat on his hands and looked very uncomfortable. It would not surprise me if Rubio showed that he retained some self-esteem and resigned. As soon as some of these people realize that there is a growing backlash among the Rs they might be aligning themselves for leadership of that faction for 2028,

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archi ... aign=share

[BoSoxGal]

When I was in the Air Force, I participated in a command sponsored mini management seminar. Some of the stuff I learned was how early experiences formed a person's opinion and attitudes, Trump is a child of the Vietnam War era; The things he learned were that a smart person is one that has bone Spurs and gets out of the draft like Bill Clinton, a hero of the Democrat Party, who lied to his draft board to gets out of the draft. And you don't challenge Russia they're too powerful they can destroy the world; there's just nothing you can do except don't make them angry and hope for a miracle. Remember your Vietnam attitudes; anyone who willingly went to the war was a war criminal and a baby burner and despicable and deserved to be hounded. When the enemy committed atrocities, they were understandable they were just a reaction to an unjust war.

I See the beginning of a disaster, I'm glad my grandson is a southerner, a rebel flag tattooed on his hand we'll get him out of the draft, good luck with your Children, you Yankees

You ought not be so confident about your grandson's chances of avoiding a draft - Hegseth intends to restore the Confederacy idols to US military bases and the southern cross tattoo won't be any issue when he is looking for cannon fodder to send into Canada or Mexico or Greenland or Panama or wherever else we are going to invade and embroil ourselves into needless sacrificing of working class people's children.

[Bicycle Bill]

I'm glad my grandson is a southerner, a rebel flag tattooed on his hand we'll get him out of the draft, good luck with your Children, you Yankees

You ought not be so confident about your grandson's chances of avoiding a draft - Hegseth intends to restore the Confederacy idols to US military bases and the southern cross tattoo won't be any issue when he is looking for cannon fodder to send into Canada or Mexico or Greenland or Panama or wherever else we are going to invade and embroil ourselves into needless sacrificing of working class people's children.

She's righr, lib.   American flag, Confederate flag, Gay Pride flag, Chinese kanji, ancient Norse runes, or the line of script from "Lord of the Rings" — the guys who send out the expendables don't care what you've got tattooed on your chest or leg or wrist or wherever.   To them, bullet catchers are bullet catchers.

-"BB"-

[BoSoxGal]

[Scooter]

Stealing that!

[Sue U]

I have never felt my country so embarrassed by its president (and vice president too, for that matter). Just totally appalling and cringe-inducing. Zelenskyy is courageously fighting to preserve his nation's democracy while Trump is fecklessly trying to end his. I hope Europe can help Ukraine survive over the next four years because Trump will now do everything he can to destroy it.

[Joe Guy]

I have never felt my country so embarrassed by its president (and vice president too, for that matter). Just totally appalling and cringe-inducing. Zelenskyy is courageously fighting to preserve his nation's democracy while Trump is fecklessly trying to end his. I hope Europe can help Ukraine survive over the next four years because Trump will now do everything he can to destroy it.

My feelings exactly.


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[Scooter]

[liberty]

When I was in the Air Force, I participated in a command sponsored mini management seminar. Some of the stuff I learned was how early experiences formed a person's opinion and attitudes, Trump is a child of the Vietnam War era; The things he learned were that a smart person is one that has bone Spurs and gets out of the draft like Bill Clinton, a hero of the Democrat Party, who lied to his draft board to gets out of the draft. And you don't challenge Russia they're too powerful they can destroy the world; there's just nothing you can do except don't make them angry and hope for a miracle. Remember your Vietnam attitudes; anyone who willingly went to the war was a war criminal and a baby burner and despicable and deserved to be hounded. When the enemy committed atrocities, they were understandable they were just a reaction to an unjust war.

I See the beginning of a disaster, I'm glad my grandson is a southerner, a rebel flag tattooed on his hand we'll get him out of the draft, good luck with your Children, you Yankees

You ought not be so confident about your grandson's chances of avoiding a draft - Hegseth intends to restore the Confederacy idols to US military bases and the southern cross tattoo won't be any issue when he is looking for cannon fodder to send into Canada or Mexico or Greenland or Panama or wherever else we are going to invade and embroil ourselves into needless sacrificing of working class people's children.

I don't expect anything to happen in the next few years, but my grandson Is of prime military age, and a second grandson will be soon; So, Trump and his team will not be around for the disaster. Until my grandson's raise her hands and swore the oath they would still be under civilian law. They would have a valid point; they would not be trying to evade the draft. Since both are southerners, they would only be expressing their ethnic pride. Being civilians, they would be entitled to full due process by the time the case makes it through the federal court system the war will be over, and Russia will own Alaska. We may be so shell shocked we won't attempt to defend Canada in the next phase.

[MGMcAnick]

I have never felt my country so embarrassed by its president (and vice president too, for that matter). Just totally appalling and cringe-inducing. Zelenskyy is courageously fighting to preserve his nation's democracy while Trump is fecklessly trying to end his. I hope Europe can help Ukraine survive over the next four years because Trump will now do everything he can to destroy it.

My feelings exactly.


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Yes, what they said.
If there is a WWIII, it won't be fought in trenches. It'll be fought in missile silos. We'll all be fodder, and it won't be bullets.