WWIII? Or just a little fuckery?

[liberty]

If Trump can't see that Putin is a danger to this country, he's a tactical and strategic idiot. If he thinks he can partner with Russia against China, he's a fool. Russia has more in common with China than the United States. If he thinks he can make a deal with Putin he's a fool, they just lie. I hate to do this, but I have to let it out. If it wasn't for the other problems this country has, I'd be willing to dump Trump.

[Joe Guy]

Dumping Trump would be solving the biggest current problem in this country.

[Burning Petard]

Can somebody check the local weather report from Hell? Has there been been a sudden drop in temperature? I can agree with Liberty.

Trump is an idiot and a fool. But he is a very effective propagandist and purveyor of fantasy.

snailgate.

[Sue U]

Trump is an idiot and a fool. But he is a very effective propagandist and purveyor of fantasy.

The thing is, though, he's not actually good at it. Everyone knows he's lying and just making shit up; he is completely transparent but also shameless. However, there is a sizeable percentage of the population that wants to believe the lies and bullshit and is willing to close their eyes to reality, and that's a much bigger problem than Trump.

[Big RR]

And a second sizable group who will put up with the bullshit so they can get what they want--mostly lower taxes and keeping their privileged positions. Let's see how they like Trump's upcoming recession and stock market collapse; that's the usual legacy of most republican administrations, and pretty inevitable here. It will make the midterm elections interesting though.

[MajGenl.Meade]

If Trump can't see that Putin is a danger to this country, he's a tactical and strategic idiot. If he thinks he can partner with Russia against China, he's a fool. Russia has more in common with China than the United States. If he thinks he can make a deal with Putin he's a fool, they just lie. I hate to do this, but I have to let it out. If it wasn't for the other problems this country has, I'd be willing to dump Trump.

Aside from a quibble about "if it wasn't for the other problems", you've definitely found a truffle there.

[BoSoxGal]

Interesting aside in the Russia invasion of Ukraine story: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... cia-russia

[Burning Petard]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-run-co ... 35216.html

It is a long-accepted management principle in military organizations that it is most dangerous to give responsibility to one who is both stupid and ambitious.

snailgate

[BoSoxGal]

I have totally quit the news, a serious habit I had for just about my whole life so I guess a small positive came out of this nightmare for me.

This morning though I turned on the BBC stream and just happened upon the joint presser between Merz and Zelenskyy about the new alliance between them.

Germany is turning on the military production machine full stop and giving arms to Ukraine that will allow it to send missiles into foreign (i.e., Russian) territory.

I am glad Ukraine has a true friend.

I am just pointing out that this moment is fraught, and we have the absolute worst human being possible sitting in the Oval in this moment.

I know you all know this, but it's just my daily reminder.

I think I'll just keep watching the BBC so I can know what is really going on in the world while the USA is obsessed with self annihilation.

[liberty]

I know it's a terrible thing to wish for, and it doesn't make God smile, but answer the question honestly: aren't you disappointed that Putin's plane didn't crash on the way back to Russia?

[Bicycle Bill]

I know it's a terrible thing to wish for, and it doesn't make God smile, but answer the question honestly: aren't you disappointed that Putin's plane didn't crash on the way back to Russia?

I'm more disappointed that Trump's plane didn't crash.    Maybe when he starts flying in that second-hand Qatari jet...

-"BB"-

[BoSoxGal]

Honestly for a brief and beautiful moment when he was delayed disembarking from AF1 I had a moment of hope that he was decompensating on board from some kind of cardiovascular event.

Tomorrow is another day.

[MajGenl.Meade]

One does not simply wish for any President's plane to crash, but if it were to do so, one may well wish to observe it

[Scooter]

For anyone needing a translation, this is Canadian for "without ironclad security guarantees, any 'peace' agreement isn't worth 4/5ths of bugger all".

[liberty]

I know it's a terrible thing to wish for, and it doesn't make God smile, but answer the question honestly: aren't you disappointed that Putin's plane didn't crash on the way back to Russia?

I'm more disappointed that Trump's plane didn't crash.    Maybe when he starts flying in that second-hand Qatari jet...

-"BB"-

You, like many others on this board, have allowed your hatred to metastasize and take over your entire soul. It has clouded your judgment. You really believe that Trump is more of a danger to freedom than Putin? In three years, Trump will be gone. But in three years, Putin will either be dead, victorious, or still killing tens of thousands of people. That is truly screwed-up thinking

[Bicycle Bill]

You, like many others on this board, have allowed your hatred to metastasize and take over your entire soul.  It has clouded your judgment.  You really believe that Trump is more of a danger to freedom than Putin?

In a word, yes.  Trump is ignoring all constraints and rules of law and is running roughshod over MY country, not Russia or Ukraine or eastern Europe.

In three years, Trump will be gone.

Prove it!   And even if he DOES step down when the time comes instead of attempting another coup d'etat (and the jury is still out on that one!), the effect of all his cockamamie executive orders and wholesale dismantling and restructuring of the parts of the government that actually DO work will continue to be felt for years if not decades.

But in three years, Putin will either be dead, victorious, or still killing tens of thousands of people.

If Putin is dead, problem resolved.   And if he is still alive — well, in my seventy years on this planet, I've seen Russian premiers and strongmen come and go, and when they do they become little more than a name in a history book.   And if he's still killing thousands of people — again, that's over there in Russia or Ukraine or Eastern Europe, not here in what is rapidly becoming Trumpitania.

That is truly screwed-up thinking.

Sez you.

-"BB"-

[liberty]

You, like many others on this board, have allowed your hatred to metastasize and take over your entire soul.  It has clouded your judgment.  You really believe that Trump is more of a danger to freedom than Putin?

In a word, yes.  Trump is ignoring all constraints and rules of law and is running roughshod over MY country, not Russia or Ukraine or eastern Europe.

In three years, Trump will be gone.

Prove it!   And even if he DOES step down when the time comes instead of attempting another coup d'etat (and the jury is still out on that one!), the effect of all his cockamamie executive orders and wholesale dismantling and restructuring of the parts of the government that actually DO work will continue to be felt for years if not decades.

But in three years, Putin will either be dead, victorious, or still killing tens of thousands of people.

If Putin is dead, problem resolved.   And if he is still alive — well, in my seventy years on this planet, I've seen Russian premiers and strongmen come and go, and when they do they become little more than a name in a history book.   And if he's still killing thousands of people — again, that's over there in Russia or Ukraine or Eastern Europe, not here in what is rapidly becoming Trumpitania.

That is truly screwed-up thinking.

Sez you.

-"BB"-

Everything that Trump has done can be undone by the next president if you can elect the president you want.

[BoSoxGal]

You, like many others on this board, have allowed your hatred to metastasize and take over your entire soul.  It has clouded your judgment.  You really believe that Trump is more of a danger to freedom than Putin?

In a word, yes.  Trump is ignoring all constraints and rules of law and is running roughshod over MY country, not Russia or Ukraine or eastern Europe.

In three years, Trump will be gone.

Prove it!   And even if he DOES step down when the time comes instead of attempting another coup d'etat (and the jury is still out on that one!), the effect of all his cockamamie executive orders and wholesale dismantling and restructuring of the parts of the government that actually DO work will continue to be felt for years if not decades.

But in three years, Putin will either be dead, victorious, or still killing tens of thousands of people.

If Putin is dead, problem resolved.   And if he is still alive — well, in my seventy years on this planet, I've seen Russian premiers and strongmen come and go, and when they do they become little more than a name in a history book.   And if he's still killing thousands of people — again, that's over there in Russia or Ukraine or Eastern Europe, not here in what is rapidly becoming Trumpitania.

That is truly screwed-up thinking.

Sez you.

-"BB"-

Everything that Trump has done can be undone by the next president if you can elect the president you want.

It is beyond insulting - and the depths of ignorance - to think that the expertise of tens of thousands of career civil servants can be recreated *POOF* with the wave of a magic wand when a rational human being is next elected to the White House.

In the next two years ~14 MILLION PEOPLE WILL DIE thanks to the dismantling of USAID. Before its dismantling, USAID SAVED ~90 MILLION LIVES over the last two decades.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goats-and- ... aid-deaths

LIVES CANNOT BE BROUGHT BACK *POOF* WITH THE WAVE OF A DEMOCRAT WAND.

You MAGA are the shallowest, stupidest humans on earth. Full stop.