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Good post. Eloquent.

Is that a Capa picture?


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GOP members of Congress criticize Trump's comments: 'We should never hesitate to call out hate'

Washington (CNN)Members of Congress in President Donald Trump's own party were among those lawmakers quick to criticize comments the President made in a news conference that laid blamed on both sides of protesters at a rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, that turned violent over the weekend.

Speaking to reporters at Trump Tower in New York City, Trump denounced the "alt-left" protesters who he said "came charging" at a group of white supremacist rally goers. The neo-Nazi group was initially in town to protest the removal of a statue of Robert E. Lee.

Tweeting in response to Trump's off-the-cuff remarks, Republican Speaker of the House Paul Ryan of Wisconsin called white supremacy "repulsive."

"We must be clear. White supremacy is repulsive. This bigotry is counter to all this country stands for. There can be no moral ambiguity," he tweeted.

Ryan was one of a number of Republican leaders who took to the social media platform Tuesday evening to disagree with Trump's argument that those who protested against the neo-Nazi rally-goers shared some of the responsibility for spreading violence.

Sen. Todd Young, an Indiana Republican, tweeted, "This is simple: we must condemn and marginalize white supremacist groups, not encourage and embolden them."

Sen. Orrin Hatch, the longest currently serving Republican senator, wrote, "We should never hesitate to call out hate. Whenever and wherever we see it," in a tweet signed with his initials.

Speaking to CNN's Wolf Blitzer on "The Situation Room" Tuesday, GOP Rep. from Texas Will Hurd said that Trump should "apologize."

"Racism, bigotry, anti-Semitism of any form is unacceptable and the leaders of the free world should be unambiguous about that," he said.

Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, a Florida Republican, said of the comments: "Just no."

"Blaming "both sides" for #Charlottesville?! No. Back to relativism when dealing with KKK, Nazi sympathizers, white supremacists? Just no," she tweeted.

Florida senator and former Republican presidential candidate Marco Rubio sent out a flurry of six back-to-back tweets that said, "The organizers of events which inspired & led to #charlottesvilleterroristattack are 100% to blame for a number of reasons."

Rubio went on to criticize Trump for assigning white supremacy groups only "50% of the blame."
"We can not allow this old evil to be resurrected," he wrote to end the Twitter thread.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/15/politics/ ... index.html
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Jebus, I have never agreed with so many Republicans in my life. :?
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Well, not everyone was critical of Trump's press conference:
White supremacist and nationalist David Duke thanked President Donald Trump Tuesday for his comments about counterprotesters at last weekend’s Charlottesville, Virginia, deadly rally, saying Trump had the “courage to tell the truth” about “leftist terrorists in BLM/Antifa.”

Duke, who was previously a grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan and was an elected member of the Louisiana state legislature, almost immediately posted his thanks to Trump following the president’s combative press conference with reporters at Trump Tower.
http://www.newsweek.com/duke-trump-thanks-antifa-651184
By Tuesday afternoon, The Daily Stormer posted an article titled, "Trump Defends Charlottesville Nazis Against Jew Media Lies, Condemns Antifa Terrorists."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... story.html
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Trump hits back at the CEOs who quit his manufacturing panel

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump on Tuesday ripped into the four business leaders who resigned from his White House jobs panel — the latest sign that corporate America’s romance with Trump is faltering — after his equivocal response to violence by white supremacists in Charlottesville, Virginia.

‘‘They’re not taking their job seriously as it pertains to this country,’’ [look who's talking... :lol: :loon ]the president said at an impromptu news conference at Trump Tower in New York City.

After his remarks, a fifth member of his manufacturing panel resigned: AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka, who said in a statement, ‘‘We cannot sit on a council for a president who tolerates bigotry and domestic terrorism.’’

The president denied that his original statement about the violence in Virginia on Saturday was the cause of the departures.

‘‘Some of the folks that will leave, they’re leaving out of embarrassment because they make their products outside’’ the United States, [You mean like ALL of the products with your name that are made outside of the US? Will you now be embarrassed enough to quit the panel yourself?] he said.

Trump also assailed the CEOs who left on Twitter as ‘‘grandstanders’’ [LMFAO!!! Trump is saying that people who announce policy decisions on Twitter are "grandstanders" ? yet another chapter in the never ending saga of You Just Can't Make This Shit Up] and said he had plenty of executives available to take their place.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politi ... story.html
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  • Man in Hostage Video Forced to Recite Words Not His Own

    Image By Andy Borowitz . August 14, 2017

    WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—A disturbing hostage video surfaced on Monday showing an American man woodenly reciting words that were not his own.

    The video, which was broadcast on all the major news networks, raised concerns for the man, whose robotic performance indicated that he was reading a prepared statement under duress.

    While the man appeared well fed and, to a certain extent, healthy, his facial expressions and body language convinced experts that the act of reciting the prepared text was an extraordinary ordeal for him.

    Harland Dorrinson, a forensic psychologist, compared the man’s performance with hours of earlier footage of him and said that the man had “never expressed these sentiments before.”

    “He did not seem to understand what he was saying,” the psychologist said. “At times, he appeared to be reading these words phonetically.”

    Additionally, Dorrinson said, the man’s speech patterns in the hostage video were strikingly different from those in earlier videos of him. “From the moment he began speaking, the subjects in his sentences agreed with the verbs,” he said. “That set off alarm bells.”
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Will Hurd said that Trump should "apologize."
Get the oxygen tanks ready to resuscitate all of those who hold their breath waiting to see if this happens.

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I don't think there are words to express how much I despise the Trumpanzee. Just when you think he cannot possibly go lower, he does.

What a miserable piece of filth. Please, let this be the beginning of the end. Come September, when Congress reconvenes, the Republican Party must must must do something about this stain on our country. Please - call them, write them, tweet them. I don't care, just make it clear you will vote them OUT if they don't move him out.
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It appears that even John Kelly has had enough. If he stays after this outburst from Drumpf I'm even more convinced that he was selected by a Pentagon "star chamber" to become Chief-of-Staff to insure POTUS keeps his hands off the nuclear codes.

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The Republicans must be shitting themselves over all the votes from POC they will never get if Trump keeps doubling down on revealing his inner white supremacist neo-Nazi; the only upside of all this mess is the schadenfruede in witnessing the GOP's misery over the actions of the monster they nominated - they deserve it!

Only 14 more months until payback - I hope Trump keeps running his mouth! I have no confidence in his party to bring him to heel or to remove him from office.

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RayThom wrote:It appears that even John Kelly has had enough. If he stays after this outburst from Drumpf I'm even more convinced that he was selected by a Pentagon "star chamber" to become Chief-of-Staff to insure POTUS keeps his hands off the nuclear codes.
...not that that would be a bad idea!
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The southern strategy raises its ugly head yet again.


Racism, The GOP is thy mistress.


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Scooter wrote:If there was any doubt that all Confederate monuments should be razed to the ground, what happened here should put them to rest. These are the sorts of scum that worship at these shrines to racism and slavery (and always have).
Baltimore Mayor Pugh had the statues of Lee and Jackson and SCOTUS Justice Roger Taney (of the Dred Scott decision), removed early this morning. Earlier in the day Governor Hogan had the Taney memorial in Annapolis taken down. They are going elsewhere - just not in the city center and state capital.

Good Job Baltimore
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Lord Jim wrote:
GOP members of Congress criticize Trump's comments: 'We should never hesitate to call out hate'

Washington (CNN)Members of Congress in President Donald Trump's own party were among those lawmakers quick to criticize comments the President made in a news conference that laid blamed on both sides of protesters at a rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, that turned violent over the weekend.

Speaking to reporters at Trump Tower in New York City, Trump denounced the "alt-left" protesters who he said "came charging" at a group of white supremacist rally goers. The neo-Nazi group was initially in town to protest the removal of a statue of Robert E. Lee.

Tweeting in response to Trump's off-the-cuff remarks, Republican Speaker of the House Paul Ryan of Wisconsin called white supremacy "repulsive."

"We must be clear. White supremacy is repulsive. This bigotry is counter to all this country stands for. There can be no moral ambiguity," he tweeted.

Ryan was one of a number of Republican leaders who took to the social media platform Tuesday evening to disagree with Trump's argument that those who protested against the neo-Nazi rally-goers shared some of the responsibility for spreading violence.

Sen. Todd Young, an Indiana Republican, tweeted, "This is simple: we must condemn and marginalize white supremacist groups, not encourage and embolden them."

Sen. Orrin Hatch, the longest currently serving Republican senator, wrote, "We should never hesitate to call out hate. Whenever and wherever we see it," in a tweet signed with his initials.

Speaking to CNN's Wolf Blitzer on "The Situation Room" Tuesday, GOP Rep. from Texas Will Hurd said that Trump should "apologize."

"Racism, bigotry, anti-Semitism of any form is unacceptable and the leaders of the free world should be unambiguous about that," he said.

Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, a Florida Republican, said of the comments: "Just no."

"Blaming "both sides" for #Charlottesville?! No. Back to relativism when dealing with KKK, Nazi sympathizers, white supremacists? Just no," she tweeted.

Florida senator and former Republican presidential candidate Marco Rubio sent out a flurry of six back-to-back tweets that said, "The organizers of events which inspired & led to #charlottesvilleterroristattack are 100% to blame for a number of reasons."

Rubio went on to criticize Trump for assigning white supremacy groups only "50% of the blame."
"We can not allow this old evil to be resurrected," he wrote to end the Twitter thread.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/15/politics/ ... index.html
More words. Meaningless and hypocritical until they actually do something to stop him.
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Charlie Pierce explains yesterday's horror perfectly. Or else it's a wounded animal striking out because Bob Mueller is approaching with subpoenas and the ACLU pocket Constitution in his back pocket. Perhaps a bit of both

Anyone who voted for him is dead to me, and will be ignored, scorned, and vilified as racist scum, until they affirmatively disavow him and admit their mistake.
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rubato wrote:Good post. Eloquent.

Is that a Capa picture?


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Yes it appears to be a slightly cropped version of this Capa photo. (The page cycles through 3 shots of which this is one.). I have a photo of my father's LCT on D Day - I posted it here on June 6 - and I have always wondered if it is a Capa shot. Looking up this image gave me more info about Capa's role that day and it appears that he returned to England immediately and therefore was probably not responsible for 'my' picture which I think was taken a day or two later than the landing.

http://www.homepagedaily.com/robert-cap ... -of-d-day/

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Ronald Reagan:
"Recently in some places in the nation, there's been a disturbing reoccurrence of bigotry and violence," he said. "To those individual who persist in such hateful behavior … you are the ones who are out of step with our society, you are the ones who willfully violate the meaning of the dream that is America, and this country because it does what it stands for will not stand for your conduct."...

''Those of us in public life can only resent the use of our names by those who seek political recognition for the repugnant doctrines of hate they espouse.

''The politics of racial hatred and religious bigotry practiced by the Klan and others have no place in this country, and are destructive of the values for which America has always stood.''
George HW Bush:
"When someone asserts that the Holocaust never took place, then I don't believe that person ever deserves one iota of public trust. And when someone has so recently endorsed nazism, it is inconceivable that such a person can legitimately aspire to leadership — in a leadership role in a free society. And when someone has a long record, an ugly record, of racism and of bigotry, that record simply cannot be erased by the glib rhetoric of a political campaign.

So, I believe that David Duke is an insincere charlatan. I believe he is attempting to hoodwink the voters of Louisiana, and I believe that he should be rejected for what he is and what he stands for."
Bob Dole:
"If there is anyone who has mistakenly attached themselves to our party in the belief that we're not open to citizens of every race and religion, then let me remind you, tonight this hall belongs to the party of Lincoln and the exits, which are clearly marked, are for you to walk out of as I stand this ground without compromise,"
George W. Bush:
"For our nation, there is no denying the truth that slavery is a blight on our history, and that racism, despite all the progress, still exists today," Bush said at the conference in Baltimore. "For my party, there is no escaping that the reality that the party of Lincoln has not always carried the mantle of Lincoln."

He continued: "Recognizing and confronting our history is important. Transcending our history is essential."
Donald J. Trump:
"I think there is blame on both sides"
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Guin
Is that link right? I get something about removing confederate monuments.
Okay... There's all kinds of things wrong with what you just said.

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Crackpot wrote:Guin
Is that link right? I get something about removing confederate monuments.
Thanks. Fixed.
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