She's Back

[Scooter]

On whether or not this was a racial slur, you stand with eiher the Navajo Nation or with Sarah Huckabee Sanders. Your choice.

[Scooter]

[Bicycle Bill]

On whether or not this was a racial slur, you stand with eiher the Navajo Nation or with Sarah Huckabee Sanders. Your choice.

I stand with the Diné.

-"BB"-

[Lord Jim]

disparaging someone for having the courage to assert their identity in the face of persecution

Wow, I had no idea that The Harvard Law School was such a hot-bed of anti-American Indian bigotry...

Warren's decision to bravely assert her 1/32nd American Indianess in such a prejudice-riven place makes her a regular Profile In Courage...

[BoSoxGal]

Don’t be an ass.

It’s perfectly understandable why Warren would come to publicly embrace her Cherokee and Delaware heritage later in life, at a time when attitudes had changed such that it was no longer widely considered to be shameful and something for families to keep secret, as was the case for many, many ‘white’ families in Oklahoma who actually have Native American blood. It might have correlated with a time when she was reaching the pinnacle of her professional achievement in academia, which would also be a time of personal empowerment - so what? Harvard has been clear that her 1/32 Native American heritage had nothing to do with her getting the position and this whole big deal over it created by Scott Brown and Donald Trump is purely racist and sexist and nothing else. Jokes on them because they’re both going down in history as losers, while Warren has already established herself as a champion of regular people and has much more time ahead of her.

[Joe Guy]

Did I mention that I'm 1/32nd sexually harassed?

[MGMcAnick]

Comedian George Lopez says any race with PANIC in its name is OK by him.

[rubato]

The same people who mock and condemn Warren for publicly embracing her heritage would mock her for "hiding" it if she didn't. That's how racists roll.


yrs,
rubato

[ex-khobar Andy]

Very true, Rube.

[Joe Guy]

The same people who mock and condemn Warren for publicly embracing her heritage would mock her for "hiding" it if she didn't.

How would we know if Warren was hiding 1/32nd of her heritage?

[liberty]

I have a quarter Amerindian ancestry, my daughter has an eight and my granddaughter has a sixteen; none of us claim to be Indians, not that we are ashamed of it. I am no more proud or ashamed of them than I am of my southern or Eurasian ancestors. They were all merely people trying to do the best they could. At one time, they all kept slaves, they all enjoyed torturing their enemies for entertainment and they all were pagan savages, but they evolved. There is nothing special about my Indian ancestry so why would I place it on a form unless I was looking for a freebie.

Clarification: To the best of my knowledge and research none of my Confederate ancestors owned slaves.

[Scooter]

I have a quarter Amerindian ancestry, my daughter has an eight and my granddaughter has a sixteen; none of us claim to be Indians, not that we are ashamed of it.

And yet you never miss an opportunity to claim that your "people" came from the steppes, even though your genetic testing shows no link to Central Asia. Yet you insist it is true only because, in what passes for your mind, that would make your ancestors a "purer" form of Caucasian.

[Guinevere]

Did I mention that I'm 1/32nd sexually harassed?

What makes you think that’s funny?

[MajGenl.Meade]

Genealogist Chris Child of the New England Historic Society looked into Warren’s background and found a document stating that she has a great-great-great-grandmother who is Native American, which would make her 1/32 Cherokee, NPR reported.

But Child told NPR that it would take more research to confirm that finding. Later, the New England Historic Genealogical Society has backtracked on Child’s finding, according to the Atlantic, saying there is "no proof that Elizabeth Warren's great-great-great-grandmother O.C. Sarah Smith either is or is not of Cherokee descent.”

http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world ... 29953.html

Whatever, he is still a racist boor.

[Sue U]

Whatever, he is still a racist boor.

Well, that's certainly something everyone can agree on.

[Guinevere]

I prefer racist piece of garbage but I can live with boor.

[BoSoxGal]

There was a really good piece on the Warren genealogy issue back in 2014 or whatever, discussing the prevalence of family lore of Native American blood that thousands of Oklahomans have grown up with, in a state that has the third largest Native American presence having been the exile to which so many eastern Native American people were consigned to by Trail of Tears, etc. The piece also discussed the difficulty of obtaining records of ancestors, especially Native American ancestors, because so many families wanted to hide that heritage in a time when it was not something of which one was ‘allowed’ to be proud by a virulently racist society.

Some people who are documented 1/32 Native American are proud about that and want to wear that heritage proudly; others like liberty don’t. Neither is wrong or right, it’s simply a matter of preference. All this shaming is pathetic; if I’m a tiny bit Irish, does it make me a hypocrite that I embrace that and celebrate it, just because I’m much more English and German? Perhaps I identify more with the part of me that is underdog - I sense that Eizabeth Warren is the same.

On a related note, as I’ve said here a few times, I was raised with family lore that I am a wee bit Pequot/Wampanoag on my mother’s side. My niece - my half sister’s daughter, who shares my paternal heritage only - bought me a MyHeritage DNA kit for my birthday last month; it sits unopened on my kitchen counter, as I find I’m somewhat reluctant to put to rest all the questions about family lore regarding not only my potential Native American heritage, but the actual origins of my father's people. He has crowed endlessly about his proud German heritage (100%!) for as long as anyone would listen; along the way I came to realize that our family name is actually French Huguenot and while common in Germany, is derived from Huguenots who fled to Germany from France ~500 years ago to escape religious persecution. When I shared this information with my father, a bigot who hates the ‘surrender monkey’ French, we nearly came to blows and it caused a greater than ever rift between us - some people can’t stand facts. But the plot further thickens; my niece's DNA heritage results included no contribution whatsoever from Western European gene pools; she’s definitely my sister’s kid, and I’m pretty sure my sister is my dad’s kid, though she resembles her mother a great deal more than any resemblance to our father and at the time they were together (her mother, my father), they were both making the rounds. Anyway, it’s possible my father isn’t German at all, which would be just about the funniest thing ever.

I really should swab my cheek and send it in.

[Burning Petard]

Those groups that claim to identify your ancestry by DNA--is there any validation on just what their resources are for these claims?

I suspect their 'scientific' results have about as much hard science support as a phrenology examination.

snailgate

[BoSoxGal]

Actually the ethnic heritage DNA tracking has been ongoing worldwide for over a decade now, beginning as a project of National Geographic, and is becoming more and more specific with every passing day as more and more samples are added to the data. There are lots of articles available online about the science of this if you’re interested - it is absolutely not pseudoscience akin to phrenology.