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Re: Kudos to John McCain, American Patriot

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Your writing is confusing
To say the least... :?
How can I be so sure he collaborated with the enemy? I can feel sure that he collaborated in some way with the enemy because he came back alive.
Total and complete horseshit. The Vietnamese had some pretty obvious self-interested reasons for not simply murdering every POW who didn't "collaborate". Are you saying that any POW who comes home alive from their captivity must be guilty of treason or they would never have been allowed to live? :loon

What makes your insinuation particularly appalling, is that you cast this completely baseless, evidence-free smear at John McCain while at the same time you support a bottom-feeding lowlife about whom there is an abundant body of evidence for collaboration with the enemy...

But for some reason, you have absolutely no interest in that...
Broken would be submissiveness
Here's a beautiful example of submissiveness of the most feckless sort:



And as for "damaged" Donald Trump is self-evidently the most emotionally and psychologically damaged man to ever occupy the Presidency; by a country mile...

Richard Nixon and Lyndon Johnson were poster boys for good mental health by comparison...
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Re: Kudos to John McCain, American Patriot

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SNL broadcast a repeat episode from 2002 when McCain hosted; the guy has a pretty good sense of humor. My favorite bit was when he did a phony commercial of McCain sings Streisand CDs--where he said, sure I can't sig, but I know more about singing than she does about running the country. He sang off key and flat and it was pretty funny. There was a good phony meet the press skit as well where they kept on trying to get him to say he'd run for president in 2004.

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Re: Kudos to John McCain, American Patriot

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Joe Guy wrote:
liberty wrote:....Be that as it may I feel sure he did collaborated.

How can I be so sure he collaborated with the enemy? I can feel sure that he collaborated in some way with the enemy because he came back alive. I am not saying I blame him for it because those that did cooperate didn’t survive. I made up my mind not be taken prisoner because I knew I couldn’t do it and might get some else killed in the process.
Your writing is confusing and unless I missed it before you are now accusing McCain of treason. In regards to Lord Jim's explanation of symptoms of being "broken" - He's absolutely right and you're perfectly wrong.

Don't forget to build a bomb shelter if you haven't already. You should store a lot of vodka in it to share with your new co-collaborators...
The code of conduct was changed POWs did not have to resist to the point of death but to the best of their ability to resist. I never said nor implied that McCain was a traitor. I said he was a war hero and I meant it . I said he was a hero; one can’t be both a hero and a traitor one cancels the other out. He was no more a traitor than I am for seeing the reality of the situation. And how could anyone be a traitor after Jane Fonda who willing and eagerly made propaganda for the enemy. No one can be traitor now. McCain collaborated only because the enemy forced him to cooperate. He signed his war crimes confession. Resistance would have futile; it would have only resulted in another dead airman.

McCain and I are alike in one way; we are both war criminals for resisting the communist.


"Nearly twenty-five years later, what Senator McCain said to Mike Wallace during an interview for a segment of the 60 Minutes news magazine (originally broadcast on 12 October 1997 and aired again on 6 June 1999) was not a personal declaration that he had been a “war criminal” who “bombed innocent women and children,” but a lamentation that while a POW he had, under pain of torture, finally allowed his captors to coerce him into issuing a “confession” stating such. "
Soon, I’ll post my farewell message. The end is starting to get close. There are many misconceptions about me, and before I go, to live with my ancestors on the steppes, I want to set the record straight.

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Re: Kudos to John McCain, American Patriot

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Lord Jim wrote:
Your writing is confusing
To say the least... :?
How can I be so sure he collaborated with the enemy? I can feel sure that he collaborated in some way with the enemy because he came back alive.
Total and complete horseshit. The Vietnamese had some pretty obvious self-interested reasons for not simply murdering every POW who didn't "collaborate". Are you saying that any POW who comes home alive from their captivity must be guilty of treason or they would never have been allowed to live? :loon

What makes your insinuation particularly appalling, is that you cast this completely baseless, evidence-free smear at John McCain while at the same time you support a bottom-feeding lowlife about whom there is an abundant body of evidence for collaboration with the enemy...

But for some reason, you have absolutely no interest in that...
Broken would be submissiveness
Here's a beautiful example of submissiveness of the most feckless sort:

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Well Jim what am I to believe? They, liberals, said that Reagan was a crazy senile war monger that was going to get us all killed, but we are still alive. And Bush the younger was a liar and a idiot. If Bush was liar so was everyone else; all of the Western Europe intelligence agencies believed Iraq had WMDs. And Bush is clearly not an idiot, so I will have to wait and see because I don’t believe anything they say.
Soon, I’ll post my farewell message. The end is starting to get close. There are many misconceptions about me, and before I go, to live with my ancestors on the steppes, I want to set the record straight.

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liberty wrote:I never said nor implied that McCain was a traitor.
liberty wrote:Be that as it may I feel sure he did collaborate.
From Google Dictionary - Collaborate: cooperate traitorously with an enemy.

Okay, I'm sure you didn't mean it that way (seriously).... :ok

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Joe Guy wrote:
liberty wrote:I never said nor implied that McCain was a traitor.
liberty wrote:Be that as it may I feel sure he did collaborate.
From Google Dictionary - Collaborate: cooperate traitorously with an enemy.

Okay, I'm sure you didn't mean it that way (seriously).... :ok

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/collaborator


col·lab·o·rate (kə-lăb′ə-rāt′)
intr.v. col·lab·o·rat·ed, col·lab·o·rat·ing, col·lab·o·rates
1. To work together, especially in a joint intellectual effort.
2. To cooperate treasonably, as with an enemy occupation force in one's country.
Soon, I’ll post my farewell message. The end is starting to get close. There are many misconceptions about me, and before I go, to live with my ancestors on the steppes, I want to set the record straight.

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The village idiot has stuck his foot in his mouth and now wishes us to believe that when he said POWs were collaborating with the enemy, he meant that they were working together, i.e. with some common purpose and/or toward some common goal.

Remind us again how that wouldn't be treasonous?

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No, no. I'm sure lib meant that McCain and Ho got together and adapted Gilbert and Sullivan operettas for a revolutionary Asian context. "The Pilates of Phnom Penh" was particularly well-received altho' "Tlial by July" caused considerable confusion among the cadres.

Other prisoners of war collaborated with various captors in writing novels about four, five and even seven Viet school-chums, their dog Lin Tin Timmy, and their daring detection of crimes such as rice-hoarding and fearing Russian take-over in Alaska.
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