Quick Candidates Condition Round Up...(PT 2)

[Lord Jim]

This is too funny...

I just heard on the news that Cain is saying that he won't make a decision about whether to pull out of the race until he can have a "face to face meeting" with his wife...

Apparently Herman's been just too busy on the campaign trail to meet up with his wife of 43 years to discuss the details of a 13 year affair. (that allegedly ended just two months ago)....

Or maybe he's just trying to come up with reasons to avoid going home for this little get-together...

Can't say I really blame him...

I'd want to put something like that off as long as possible...

[Gob]

Maybe Newt can give him some tips, after all, Newt's had enough practice in these situations.

[Sue U]

Newt's method is, "Hi, honey, I'm banging someone else now, here's some divorce papers. Oh, sorry about your cancer. Later!"

[rubato]

And there was his ethics problem. Taking bribes by a different means ...

yrs,
rubato

[dgs49]

Of course, one must look at the possibility that the woman is lying. From what I've read, she has a similar history to the other accusers - fucked up personal life, fucked up finances, history of dubious HR-type claims, etc.

Seems like a "13-year affair" ought to leave some tangible evidence like a written note or letter, emails, pictures, or a dress stained with semen. Here, all we have is a questionable woman's totally uncorroborated word.

HC's day is past (if it ever actually existed), but this reeks of an organized slander campaign.

[Scooter]

There are dozens of calls and texts to her from his cell phone. He admits to having called he in attempts to "help her out". Uh, at 4:30 in the morning? Sure, Herman....

And...he admits to giving her money for "month-to-month bills and expenses" without telling his wife about it. Nah, nothing tangible about that. Men give women money all the time and hide it from their wives, it never means they are having an affair with the recipient.

[Lord Jim]

he admits to giving her money for "month-to-month bills and expenses" without telling his wife about it.

The word "mistress" comes to mind....

[dgs49]

None of this is necessarily indicative of an adulterous relationship. He was a wealthy man and had a female friend who was in need of someone to talk to and some financial assistance. He could afford to help her and knew that his wife might not be as understanding as she could be.

Thirteen years of adultery would leave a bigger footprint that what has been produced thus far.

I have a couple of female friends with whom I have corresponded for decades. They are not friends of my wife's or of "ours." If one of them had badly needed financial help and I were in a position to provide it, I would have done so. And I probably would not have told my wife.

I can't believe HC would have positioned himself as he has for the past 6 months with a skeleton this big in his closet. The accusation just doesn't seem credible to me.

Not that I would vote for him in any event. This is all just a sideshow.

[Scooter]

I can't believe HC would have positioned himself as he has for the past 6 months with a skeleton this big in his closet.

Some people are just that arrogant. Remember Gary Hart, daring reporters to follow him around? Remember "I did NOT have sexual relations with that woman?"

And maybe your think that your wife is stupid enough to believe that you wouldn't be having an affair with a woman whose living expenses you are paying secretly, but to the rest of the world what looks, walks and quacks like a duck is not a giraffe.

[Guinevere]

Announcement coming tomorrow, says the Globe and NYTimes. I expect he will be leaving the field.

And Jim, more like this image:

[Liberty1]

Personally, I rather have a guy that's screwed a few women, than one that's screwing a whole country.

[Liberty1]

Newt's method is, "Hi, honey, I'm banging someone else now, here's some divorce papers. Oh, sorry about your cancer. Later!"

That's good propaganda, great gossip and a great legendary myth, too bad for you that's all it is. Incorrect on a couple of different levels.



http://www.creators.com/conservative/ja ... aight.html

My father, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich, has been in politics as long as I can remember.

And as long as I can remember, media coverage about him has contained misstatements of facts. The vast majority are simple mistakes that are easily corrected, understood and rewoven into an ongoing storyline.

But one of them seems to have taken on a life of its own, and simple corrections have not sufficed to set the record straight. Why does this happen? I can't be sure, but I suspect that the narrative created by these untruths proves to be so much more compelling and more dramatic than what actually happened that it proves irresistible.

I'm talking about the story of my father's visit to my mother while she was in the hospital in 1980.

For years, I have thought about trying to correct the untrue accounts of this hospital visit. After all, I was at the hospital with them, and saw and heard what happened. But I have always hesitated, as it was a private family matter and my mother is a very private person. In addition, for the four people involved, it was one of a million interactions and was not considered a defining event by any of us.

My mother and I have both recently run into quite a few people who hold an inaccurate understanding of this hospital visit. Many think my mother is dead.

So, to correct the record, here is what happened: My mother, Jackie Battley Gingrich, is very much alive, and often spends time with my family. I am lucky to have such a "Miracle Mom," as I titled her in a column this week.

As for my parents' divorce, I can remember when they told me.

It was the spring of 1980. AD FEEDBACK

I was 13 years old, and we were about to leave Fairfax, Va., and drive to Carrollton, Ga., for the summer. My parents told my sister and me that they were getting a divorce as our family of four sat around the kitchen table of our ranch home.

Soon afterward, my mom, sister and I got into our light-blue Chevrolet Impala and drove back to Carrollton.

Later that summer, Mom went to Emory University Hospital in Atlanta for surgery to remove a tumor. While she was there, Dad took my sister and me to see her.

It is this visit that has turned into the infamous hospital visit about which many untruths have been told. I won't repeat them. You can look them up online if you are interested in untruths. But here's what happened:

My mother and father were already in the process of getting a divorce, which she requested.

Dad took my sister and me to the hospital to see our mother.

She had undergone surgery the day before to remove a tumor.

The tumor was benign.

As with many divorces, it was hard and painful for all involved, but life continued.

As have many families, we have healed; we have moved on.

We are not a perfect family, but we are knit together through common bonds, commitment and love.

My mother and father are alive and well, and my sister and I are blessed to have a close relationship with them both.

My sister and I feel that it is time to move on, close the book on this event and focus on building a great future. We will not answer additional questions or make additional comments regarding this meaningless incident, which occurred more than three decades ago.

As I said, my mother is a private person. She will not give media interviews. She deserves respect and should be allowed to live in peace.

You may now return to you Daily KOS

[Scooter]

The daughter can say whatever she wants to attempt to restore her father's reputation, but her mother (who she claims does not give interviews) was the one quoted saying the request for a divorce was a "complete surprise" to her. How could it have been a "complete surprise" if she had initiated it?

The daughter clearly inherited her character from her father, to essentially publicly accusing her mother of being a liar in order to make her father look good.

[Liberty1]

OK fine, the divorce was a suprise.

I guess the fact that she found out about it months prior to her stay in the hospital, or that she never had cancer is too inconveinent for you.

[Scooter]

As I said, the original story came out of her mother's mouth. Perhaps the daughter remembers it this way now because she was young at the time and her parents were trying to shield her from some ugliness. My mother had cancer surgery when I was in elementary school. At the time I was told she needed to get her appendix out (something that had happened before I was born) and I never learned the truth until I once took her to the ER a few years ago when I was visiting and she was giving her medical history to the doctor. It is the sort of lie that parents tell to protect their young children.

[Liberty1]

Or perhaps her mother was hopped up on pain killers after the surgery the previous day.

[Scooter]

Which would have caused her, AFTER she recovered, to give an interview in which she mistakenly said she had cancer and to forget that she had asked for a divorce months before her surgery?

[loCAtek]

Re: Ginger White;


This smacks of a woman scorned; [as per interviews]

a) He never said he loved her [in thirteen years].

b) He broke up with her as: part of a joke;

Ginger White[paraphrased, two months ago] said: The Presidency? That's big.... I guess we can't see each other anymore?

Herman Cain replies: Um, no.

Whoa, how cold-hearted to discard her so quickly in the face of power.

For White, to come out, rather face media condemnation; OBVIOUS

[Lord Jim]

I can't believe HC would have positioned himself as he has for the past 6 months with a skeleton this big in his closet.

Some people are just that arrogant. Remember Gary Hart, daring reporters to follow him around? Remember "I did NOT have sexual relations with that woman?"

Scooter has hit the nail precisely on the head...

It's not about ideology, or party, or philosophy...

It's about a personality type; it's about arrogance; it's about hubris...

It's about a mind set that says, "the rules that apply to others simply don't apply to me"...

John Edwards was running full bore for the Presidency, portraying himself as the ideal family man, standing by his dying wife...

At the very same time he knew another woman was carrying his child...

The fact of the matter is, it takes a certain amount of arrogance to think you ought to be President Of The United States in the first place...

Even if you're in someway qualified...

How much more arrogance must it take if you have no qualifications...(like Herman Cain)

In modern times, we have had only two Presidents who were completely lacking in this sort of self-absorbed hubris...(Even Mr. Reagan had a bit of it; though less than most)

Gerald Ford, and Harry Truman....

Two men who never sought the Office, were not initially elected to it, and never expected to find themselves holding it....

I don't think that's a coincidence...

[Crackpot]

so who's going to post it?