Why the GOP is so sure there's voter fraud afoot

[Econoline]

Florida GOP-Led Voter Fraud Investigation Finds Nothing—Except GOP Fraud

September 5, 2013 | An investigation into the issue of voter registration fraud in the Sunshine State initiated by Florida Republicans has unearthed no evidence of wrongdoing—except on the part of the GOP. Florida's Secretary of State Ken Detzner, prompted the state's Department of Law Enforcement to research the alleged problem, setting its sights on the Florida New Majority, an established progressive organization know for advocating the spread of democratic participation across the country. The organization was vital in registering scores of minorities last year—something which Republicans generally don't like.

The investigation, curiously, found nothing on the Florida New Majority, but it did stumble across a little fraud from the Strategic Allied Consultants—a GOP contractor that made the news last year for falsifying registration forms. Earlier this year, two former employees of SAC admitted to law enforcement officials that they did indeed commit voter fraud. Rebekah Joy Paul submitted 20 fake voter registration applications, while Christian Davis Price submitted seven. Both said they were told by the company that they would not get paid unless they submitted a certain quota of applications, and that they were strongly instructed not to register Democrats.

The investigation, and its results, comes after Florida's controversial decision to require state-issued drivers licenses in order to vote in national and federal elections—a move that many saw as a way to silence minority voters and tip the turn-out in favor of traditionally white, republican voters. Though the push to disenfranchise minotiry, Democratica and poor voters in light of the Supreme Court's Decision to declaw the Voting Rights Act is bound to continue in Florida and other states, this round counts as a loss for the forces arrayed against true democracy.

[dgs49]

Hmmm. No wrongdoing was found on the part of the "Florida New Majority." And this proves exactly what?

Do you understand the difference between submitting phony voter registration forms to meet a quota, and voting fraudulently? Think. Think.

[Grim Reaper]

You think they only investigated one form of fraud? Think. Think.

[Sue U]

Hmmm. No wrongdoing was found on the part of the "Florida New Majority." And this proves exactly what?

Do you understand the difference between submitting phony voter registration forms to meet a quota, and voting fraudulently? Think. Think.

Do you remember why Republicans were so outraged by ACORN's voter registration drives? Think. Think.

[Scooter]

Took the words right out of my mouth.

And ACORN went to the trouble of segregating and identifying those registrations they had reason to believe were bogus, and they still got excoriated for submitting them.

[dgs49]

ACORN's voter registration drives were coupled with a large scale effort to provide "motivation" and transportation to the polls, for people who otherwise wouldn't be voting, many of whom, at least arguably, were not legally entitled to vote. And done in communities where essentially ALL votes go to one political party. If you think ACORD weeded out the bogus registrations, I have some real estate I'd like you to take a look at.

A "consultant" submitting phony registration forms is merely a matter of someone trying to create a paper trail of doing something that they were not actually able to do. There is no indication - and no likelihood - that anyone would actually present themselves at the polls, claiming to be Alfred E. Newman, Michael Rodent, or whoever. VOTING is the thing here, not passing meaningless paper.

There is no story here.

[Scooter]

ACORN's voter registration drives were coupled with a large scale effort to provide "motivation" and transportation to the polls\\for people who otherwise wouldn't be voting, many of whom, at least arguably, were not legally entitled to vote.

Hmmm:

four different independent investigations by various state and city Attorneys General and the GAO released in 2009 and 2010 cleared ACORN, finding its employees had not engaged in criminal activities and that the organization had managed its federal funding appropriately

Pesky things, facts.

If you think ACORD weeded out the bogus registrations, I have some real estate I'd like you to take a look at.

And once again the moron plants his foot firmly in his mouth:

During the 2008 election season, ACORN gathered over 1.3 million voter registration forms in 21 states. Some of these registration forms were flagged by ACORN's internal auditors for review by election officials...As required by law in most states, ACORN must submit all registration forms collected by its workers, including those flagged by ACORN as incomplete or suspicious...ACORN has fired employees for fraudulent registration practices and turned them over to authorities.

Damn aren't facts inconvenient for the subdefective mind.

[Grim Reaper]

And the story is that the GOP doesn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to accusing others of voting fraud or of trying to increase "security" by requiring driver's licenses to vote.

[liberty]

Why not improve voting security? What would be wrong with a system that has no fraud?

I understand that some people have more trouble than other obtaining ID. But surely that is a problem that can be fixed.


http://www.chacha.com/question/was-ther ... l-election

Was there voter fraud in the 1960 presidential election?

Answers
1 year ago

Yes, there was voter fraud. An investigation of vote fraud in Illinois and Texas revealed the following: Fannin County, Texas had only 4,895 registered voters. BUT 6,138 votes were cast, 75% of which went to Kennedy. Angelina County, Texas: In one precinct, only 86 people voted yet the final tally was 147 for Kennedy, 24 for Nixon. !

[Scooter]

Why not improve voting security? What would be wrong with a system that has no fraud?

When vote suppression is being disguised as an attempt to reduce voter fraud. One transparent example - the Texas law that prohibits the use of student IDs as identification, but allows firearms permits.

I understand that some people have more trouble than other obtaining ID. But surely that is a problem that can be fixed.

It can be fixed only if the intent is that it be fixable. Since the intent of almost all recent voter ID laws is vote suppression, however...

http://www.chacha.com/question/was-ther ... l-election

So you need to go back more than 50 years to find voter fraud that MIGHT have affected the outcome of an election? Pretty lame.

[dgs49]

Bottom line, there is no legitimate reason to fight a voter identification requirement. There are only illegitimate ones.

The LAST thing Democrats want is a system that eliminates fraud.

[Scooter]

Bottom line, voter identification requirements are designed to suppress the votes of eligible voters unlikely to vote Republican and that is why I support them.

Fixed that for you.

[Grim Reaper]

The LAST thing Democrats want is a system that eliminates fraud.

Very amusing considering the news article involved Republicans committing voting fraud instead of Democrats.