We thought somebody needed to confront Hoover and document what many of us knew was happening.
- Bonnie Raines
"We called ourselves the Citizens Commission to Investigate the FBI," says John Raines. He was a professor of religion at Temple and Bonnie's husband.
The burglars were sure that Hoover — who ruled the bureau with an iron fist — had been carrying out illegal surveillance on Vietnam protesters and civil rights groups.
"And he was an icon — nobody in Washington was going to hold him accountable," John Raines says. "He could get away with doing whatever he wanted to do with his FBI, and it was his FBI, nobody else's."
The breaking and entering was supposed to get evidence of that spying so Congress and the public could no longer ignore it. Not long after the burglary, reporter Betty Medsger received an anonymous package at her desk at the Washington Post: secret documents. She published the story.
The Discovery of J. Edgar Hoover's Secret FBI
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Hardcover, 596 pages
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"The country learned for the first time that the FBI under J. Edgar Hoover was almost completely different from what the country thought it was," Medsger says.
Re: The Heros who stopped us from sliding into a police stat
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:04 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
I don't know if the end justifies the means.
Besides there is a little difference here than with Snowden.
Here you have average citizens, breaking and entering to steal "evidence".
In todays cloud info world, the breaking and entering would be hacking.
The Snowden case is a little different, it was part of his job to maintain secrecy on the material he came across and the mechanations of his job.
And I have made no judgement on Snowden or what he did.
Re: The Heros who stopped us from sliding into a police stat
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:05 pm
by Joe Guy
Heroes
Re: The Heros who stopped us from sliding into a police stat
Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:15 pm
by Lord Jim
No, I think "heros" was appropriate...
The whole premise of this thread could well be summarized as a foot long baloney sandwich...
Re: The Heros who stopped us from sliding into a police stat
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:03 am
by rubato
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Without brave people like these, Snowden, Daniel Ellsberg, we would not have a free society very long.
yrs,
rubato
Re: The Heros who stopped us from sliding into a police stat
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:46 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
LordJim, that looks like Ham to me.
Re: The Heros who stopped us from sliding into a police stat
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:54 pm
by Lord Jim
I know, I couldn't find baloney...
Believe me, I looked...
Re: The Heros who stopped us from sliding into a police stat
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:42 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
...and the nominees are:
and the winner is. . .
Re: The Heros who stopped us from sliding into a police stat
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:44 pm
by Lord Jim
Mmm gyros sound good, we haven't had those for a while...
I think I'll pick some up later...
Re: The Heros who stopped us from sliding into a police stat
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:28 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
I had a gyroscope toy when I was a kid. I thought it was cool. I would balance it on a string and stuff.
Re: The Heros who stopped us from sliding into a police stat
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:16 am
by MajGenl.Meade
Lord Jim wrote:I know, I couldn't find baloney... Believe me, I looked...
It's one of those spelling things, LJ
A bologna sandwich
Re: The Heros who stopped us from sliding into a police stat
Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:59 am
by Lord Jim
Yuk yuk Maggie...
What I meant was I couldn't find a baloney hero/sub/hoagie type sandwich...
But you've inspired me to look again, (under "baloney" not "Bologna" which looks like the name of a New York Crime Family)
Re: The Heros who stopped us from sliding into a police stat
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:46 am
by rubato
When people cannot cope with reality they revert to bullshit. It distracts them from reality and allows them to feel that the real world no longer matters. For a short while.
Run along babies. Grown ups are taking care of business.
yrs,
rubato
Re: The Heros who stopped us from sliding into a police stat
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:07 am
by Gob
Re: The Heros who stopped us from sliding into a police stat
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:40 pm
by Lord Jim
Re: The Heros who stopped us from sliding into a police stat
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:11 pm
by Sue U
Re: The Heros who stopped us from sliding into a police stat
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:15 pm
by Lord Jim
Hey, I thought of a way to turn this useless thread into an actually useful one... How about we make this thread the "Home For Random Videos"?
Re: The Heros who stopped us from sliding into a police stat
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:29 pm
by Gob
Re: The Heros who stopped us from sliding into a police stat
Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 11:07 pm
by rubato
rubato wrote:When people cannot cope with reality they revert to bullshit. It distracts them from reality and allows them to feel that the real world no longer matters. For a short while.
Run along babies. Grown ups are taking care of business.
