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All hate, all the time.

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:14 pm
by rubato
National Front? Golden Dawn? British National Party?

No, its the Republicans!

If the GOP fails to censure him for this then they are the same.

http://www.vox.com/2014/7/16/5911001/te ... p-priority
Ted Cruz: deporting DREAMers is my "top priority"

Updated by Matthew Yglesias on July 16, 2014, 10:16 p.m. ET @mattyglesias matt@vox.com

As best as anyone can tell, the child migrant crisis is playing perfectly into the hands of conservatives in congress — it's making Obama look bad while pushing Democrats off their immigration reform message. Then along comes Ted Cruz to ruin it all with a plan reported by Manu Raju and Burgess Everett to link any new funding to deal with the situation to deporting DREAMers — kids who came to the US years ago, grew up here, and are now being protected from deportation by Obama administration executive action.

Catherine Frazier, a spokesperson for Cruz, describes ending the deferred action plan as his "top priority."


Of course one senator taking an eccentric stand needn't have major political implications. But this is essentially how last fall's government shutdown got started. Cruz floated the idea that Republicans should refuse to fund the government unless the White House agreed to repeal Obamacare. Most Republican members of congress thought that was unworkable and politically unwise. But once the idea gained traction in the conservative media, nobody wanted to take the RINO stand of breaking with Cruz out of political timidity. Next thing you know the whole caucus was stampeding off the cliff.

Obama's deferred action (and its legislative predecessor, the DREAM Act) has always polled well. There's likely nothing Democrats would rather do than shift the conversation onto that terrain, while simultaneously allowing them to argue that it's Republicans who are distracting attention from the crisis of the moment.

But Cruz isn't necessarily interested in what's best for his caucus. He's interested in what's best for driving Cruz's influence inside the caucus. And that means finding new fights to pick beyond the ones the party leadership is interested in.
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What is the DREAM Act?

The DREAM (Development, Relief, and Education for Alien Minors) Act was a proposed federal law that would cover young adults aged 15 to 29 who came into the country as children and have gone to college or served in the military. It would give these DREAMers legal status and allow them to apply for citizenship eventually.

The DREAM Act was first proposed in 2003 and last came up for a vote in 2010 — it passed the House but was blocked in the Senate by a Republican filibuster. Comprehensive immigration reform bills (such as the 2006 and 2007 bills proposed under President Bush, as well as the Senate immigration bill passed last year) contain a section that allows DREAMers to obtain legal status and eventual citizenship more quickly than other unauthorized immigrants.

As of May 2014, 21 states have their own DREAM Act laws that would grant in-state tuition at public colleges to undocumented immigrants who have grown up in the state. These are different from the federal DREAM Act, since states can't grant legal status or citizenship to undocumented immigrants.

In 2012, President Obama launched the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program, which allowed DREAMers to apply for work permits and protection from deportation. This is often mistakenly referred to as Obama implementing the DREAM Act, but it isn't as permanent as the DREAM Act would have been, since immigrants have to re-apply every two years.
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rubato

Re: All hate, all the time.

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:02 pm
by Sue U
Somewhat ironic, since Cruz is himself a Cuban-Canadian brought to the U.S. as a child.

But I prefer to think of him as merely a douchebag.

Oh yeah, by all means, GOP, follow Ted Cruz's advice! That worked out so well for you last year!

Re: All hate, all the time.

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 2:04 pm
by Lord Jim
Given the subject line and the author, naturally I was expecting something autobiographical...

Re: All hate, all the time.

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 4:13 pm
by Joe Guy
I thought the rubester had come up with a new signature line...

Re: All hate, all the time.

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:54 pm
by Lord Jim
:lol:

Yes, that would certainly fall into the category of "truth in labeling"...

Re: All hate, all the time.

Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:05 pm
by rubato
Sue U wrote:Somewhat ironic, since Cruz is himself a Cuban-Canadian brought to the U.S. as a child.

But I prefer to think of him as merely a douchebag.

Oh yeah, by all means, GOP, follow Ted Cruz's advice! That worked out so well for you last year!

They have a long track record for doing the same things over again after they have failed.

I'm truly amazed that they didn't take the opportunity to carve off the most racist, brutish and stupid policies of the tea party when they went after them in the primaries this year but they sucked the poison into themselves instead. Boehner embraced the evil and made it their own 'there isn't much difference between us and the tea party" [paraph.] They had a chance to re-set their agenda and refused to learn from experience instead.

Their current agenda of kicking children out as fast as you can, no matter to what fate, is repugnant even to the religious right.


yrs,
rubato

Re: All hate, all the time.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:35 am
by Lord Jim
I prefer to think of him as merely a douchebag

Re: All hate, all the time.

Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 3:43 am
by BoSoxGal
Personally, I hope the rabid Tea Partiers and right wing Republicans keep going after those migrant kids, and they should impeach Obama, too. They should give some more human rights to corporations, too - all of these things will only ensure a) continued D control of White House, and/or b) a populist uprising.