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Turkeys are voting for Xmas
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:27 pm
by Gob
Working-class whites are flocking to Republicans ahead of next month's congressional elections, a new poll shows, turning a group long wary of Democrats into an even bigger impediment to the party's drive to keep control of Congress.
An Associated Press-GfK Poll shows whites without four-year college degrees preferring Republican candidates by twice the margin of the last two elections, when Democrats made significant gains in the House and Senate. The poll, conducted last month, found this group favouring Republican hopefuls 58 per cent to 36 per cent - a whopping 22 percentage-point gap.
In 2008, Barack Obama won the presidency, they favoured Republican congressional candidates by 11 percentage points, according to exit polls of voters. When Democrats won the House and Senate in 2006, the Republican edge was nine percentage points.
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Republicans are expected to score big gains in the November 2 congressional elections, possibly capturing control of the House of Representatives and, less likely, the Senate from Obama's Democrats.
Governing parties typically lose seats in the so-called midterm elections, which take place in the middle of a president's four-year term. But Democratic losses are likely to be particularly severe because of the weak economy, high unemployment and country's general anti-Washington mood. Also, Republican voters may turn out in higher numbers, energised by the ultraconservative tea party movement that opposes what its followers see as increasingly intrusive federal government.
Compared to better-educated whites, working-class whites tend to be older and more conservative - groups that traditionally lean Republican and are uneasy with the young president's activist governing. Their wariness is reinforced by a prolonged economic funk that has disproportionately hurt the working class and shown scant signs of improvement under Obama and Congress' majority Democrats.
Though accustomed to trailing among working-class whites, Democrats can hardly afford further erosion from a group that accounts for about four in 10 voters nationally. Their Republican preference is in contrast to whites with college degrees, who the AP-GfK Poll shows are split evenly between the two parties' candidates, and to minorities, who decisively back Democrats.
Many of these working-class voters were dubbed Reagan Democrats in the 1980s, when some in the North and Midwest who had previously preferred Democrats began supporting Ronald Reagan and other conservative Republicans. Many never warmed to Obama during the 2008 presidential race, when he said some bitter small-town residents cling to guns and religion for solace. They preferred Hillary Clinton, his rival for the Democratic nomination, by two to one and in the general election backed Republican nominee John McCain by 18 percentage points.
In the AP-GfK Poll, working-class whites were likelier than white college graduates to say their families are suffering financially and to have a relative who has recently lost a job. They are less optimistic about the country's economy and their own situations, gloomier about the nation's overall direction and more critical of how Democrats are handling the economy.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/workingclas ... 168ap.html
Re: Turkeys are voting for Xmas
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2010 11:51 pm
by dales
Re: Turkeys are voting for Xmas
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:39 pm
by Gob
Anyone got any clues as to why this is happening?
I've mentioned before that the book
"Deer hunting with Jesus" paints a sobering yet touching view on poor white America, and how it is manipulated and used by the "god, gays and guns" brigade.
Bageant mixes a reporter's keen analysis, a storyteller's color, and a native son's love of his roots in this absorbing dissection of America's working poor. Returning to his hometown of Winchester, Virginia, after 30 years of life among the elite journalistic class, Bageant sought to answer the question of why the working poor vote for Republicans in apparent opposition to their own interests.
On a broader level, he examines issues of economic class distinctions as he drills below the middle-class claims of his hometown. The reality is that two of five residents do not have high-school diplomas and virtually everyone over 50 has serious health problems in a town—and nation—with poor and failing schools and health systems.
Still clinging to illusions of personal responsibility and the vain hope of someday achieving wealth, Winchester's residents fall deeper into debt, farther behind in ambitions beyond working in the local factory—if they're lucky—and, along with their children, subject to the de facto draft of economic conscription. Through the lives of his friends and family, Bageant explores the importance of hunting, religion, and redneck pride in what he describes as the "American hologram."
A wise, tender, and acerbic look at life among America's working poor.
Re: Turkeys are voting for Xmas
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 8:49 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
I can't tell as I have not lived among them. However, my brother-in-law is an outback Pennsylvanian/New Yorker and to sum up my read on him is they want the government as much as possible to stay out of their lives. I think a lot of the sentiments of these rural types would convey the same idea and anythiing that seems like intrusion into their 'relm" by the gov is fought, even if it benefits them. They want to be beholden to no one. Which conflicts with hunt/fish whenever they need a meal as there are "seasons" for all of these activities. Just as they can't make "moonshine" which would/could provide some kind of income for them.
Re: Turkeys are voting for Xmas
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2010 9:14 pm
by dales
The mythos of "Rgged Individualism" runs deep in the America collective psyche, Gob.
Re: Turkeys are voting for Xmas
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 12:18 pm
by Big RR
dales wrote:The mythos of "Rgged Individualism" runs deep in the America collective psyche, Gob.
Even though it is complete BS.
Re: Turkeys are voting for Xmas
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:25 pm
by dales
No it is not (even though it is surronded by a lot of myth (ie: MYTHOS).
People moved west, did they not?
What was "out west"?
Freedom!
Independence!
Land!
No organized govt.!
What was the great westward expansion about?
GOLD!
CALIFORNIA OR BUST
FF 150 years hence.....people are still moving west searhing for some type of "holy grail" of life that will better accomodate their world-view.
Be it, less govt. less taxes, more guns, more freedom, less people, more open space, and to be left the hell alone!
Re: Turkeys are voting for Xmas
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:30 pm
by Big RR
What was "out west"?
Freedom!
Independence!
Land!
No organized govt.!
Yep, except for the forts and army who made the journey safe and protected the settlements. Or the federal marshalls who tried to keep some modicum of law and order. But they were all rugged individualists.
Right about the gold, though; pursuit of wealth can inspire lots of things.
Re: Turkeys are voting for Xmas
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 3:33 pm
by dales
The forts were few an far between.
The distances covered were vast and almost insurrmountable.
Until that Golden Spike was laid in Utah, the covered wagon trip tooks months.
Re: Turkeys are voting for Xmas
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 7:47 pm
by tyro
Never underestimate the power of BS.
Re: Turkeys are voting for Xmas
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:23 pm
by dales
....and I assume you have a point there, Tyro?
Re: Turkeys are voting for Xmas
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 8:42 pm
by Gob
Unfortunately this idea of "rugged individualism" is one which has led the US to become a fragmented society.
Re: Turkeys are voting for Xmas
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2010 11:17 pm
by dales
We have never been a homogenous people, Gob.
Collectivism rubs many the wrong way, here in the states.
Re: Turkeys are voting for Xmas
Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 10:22 pm
by Gob
Re: Turkeys are voting for Xmas
Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 12:43 am
by Sue U
"You've got to remember that these are just simple farmers. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new West. You know... morons."
--Jim, the Waco Kid.