Plan B Forum

Not the legislature; just one particular legislator:

COLUMBUS — The Ohio House today for the second time voted across party lines for a bill that would all but ban an abortion as soon as a fetal heartbeat is detectable, as early as six weeks.

State Rep. Teresa Fedor (D., Toledo) became so angry during the debate that she stood up and revealed publicly for the first time that she was a victim of rape, became pregnant as a result, and had an abortion. This occurred years ago while she was in the military, and she said later there were members of her own family that didn’t know.

“You don’t respect my reason, my rape, my abortion, and I guarantee you there are other women who should stand up with me and be courageous enough to speak that voice…,” she told her colleagues. “What you’re doing is so fundamentally inhuman, unconstitutional, and I’ve sat here too long.

“I dare any one of you to judge me, because there’s only one judge I’m going to face…,” she said. “I dare you to walk in my shoes…This debate is purely political. I understand your story, but you don’t understand mine. I’m grateful for that freedom. It is a personal decision, and how dare government get into my business.”

House Bill 69 would provide exceptions to the abortion ban when the mother’s life is in danger or when she is considered to be at serious risk of substantial and irreversible impairment. The bill’s supporters have resisted attempts to amend the bill to make exceptions for cases of rape or incest.

The chamber voted 55-40 with partisan defections on both sides.


Read more at http://www.toledoblade.com/State/2015/0 ... If9xVSO.99

I wonder how long it will be before the death threats from "pro-lifers" start?

Respect to her.

And on a quick pre-empt. 1 Democrat voted for it. 6 Republicans voted against

Kudos to those 6 Republicans, and shame on that 1 Democrat.

Imagine if the abortion debate just ended and all that energy expended by anti-choice folks was put instead toward helping children out in the world instead of the so-called 'unborn'.


eta: Yes, that was real courage displayed by a woman of character, who never should have had to reveal such a personal tragedy in order to defend her own and her constituents' essential civil liberties.

The chamber voted 55-40 with partisan defections on both sides.
Read more at http://www.toledoblade.com/State/2015/0 ... RE0EAqs.99

For 54 Republicans 1 Democrat
Against 34 Democrats 6 Republicans

% of Republicans who hate women and think a blob of protoplasm has more rights than an adult woman = 90%
% of Democrats who hate women and think a blob of protoplasm has more rights than an adult woman = 3%

Moral clarity = Priceless

yrs,
rubato

Or to put it another way

% of Demonrats who hate children and think an adult has more rights than a child = 97%
% of Republicans who hate children and think an adult has more rights than a child = 10%

Somehow I think anyone who supports either rubato's view or this one (which is not my POV, BTW) is an arsehole

Somehow I think anyone who supports either rubato's view or this one (which is not my POV, BTW) is an arsehole

Binary simpleminded thinking = Worthless

MajGenl.Meade wrote:Or to put it another way

% of Demonrats who hate children and think an adult has more rights than a child = 97%
% of Republicans who hate children and think an adult has more rights than a child = 10%

Somehow I think anyone who supports either rubato's view or this one (which is not my POV, BTW) is an arsehole

An embryo 1/2 inch long is not a "child". That is pure superstition.


Placing the "rights" of a. Lob of protoplasm the size of a Lima bean above those of an actual person is undefensable.

Your argument is asymmetrical.


Yrs,
Rubato

It's as asymmetrical as your argument. Do you not read well? I stated that only arseholes believe either statement - yours or mine - and that what I posted IS NOT my POV.