FYI, I don't know if Paul Ryan has kids, but the fact is that these days most kids don't go to school with a brown paper bag - most kids buy the school lunch with a prepaid card, even if they have working parents. (In fact, it was that way already when I was in grade school in the 80s.)
Many parents don't have time to make bagged lunches anymore, and many kids don't want them anyway.
Such utter bullshit anyway . . . I can't imagine any kid saying he would rather not eat than eat a school lunch merely because it was paid for by you and me. I bet he's never really known any actual poor, hungry kids. I bet his buddy Scott Walker (and staff) haven't ever, either.
Re: Paul Ryan: Let kids starve, it builds character
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:06 pm
by Joe Guy
Paul Ryan is a dildo.
Re: Paul Ryan: Let kids starve, it builds character
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:17 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
Then, he can make them dill bread
Re: Paul Ryan: Let kids starve, it builds character
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:19 pm
by Joe Guy
That's the yeast he can do.
Re: Paul Ryan: Let kids starve, it builds character
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:13 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
Not for those on a loaf at diet though.
Re: Paul Ryan: Let kids starve, it builds character
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:20 pm
by Joe Guy
Now I doughnut know what to say.
Re: Paul Ryan: Let kids starve, it builds character
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:22 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
Cheeses Crust?
Re: Paul Ryan: Let kids starve, it builds character
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 10:27 pm
by Joe Guy
I'll have a pizza that.
Re: Paul Ryan: Let kids starve, it builds character
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:47 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
"Pie eye, skipper!" as Tony Bennet famously said
Re: Paul Ryan: Let kids starve, it builds character
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:56 pm
by Joe Guy
I think I'd be batter off leaven that one alone.
Re: Paul Ryan: Let kids starve, it builds character
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:57 am
by MajGenl.Meade
Yeah, let's wheat until we're rising
Re: Paul Ryan: Let kids starve, it builds character
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:09 am
by dgs49
I don't know what video BSG saw, but the reaction has nothing to do with what was said. There is absolutely nothing incredible about a school child considering a brown bag lunch prepared by a kid's mother to be preferable to "free" government lunch.
"LEt kids starve"? You are delusional - literally.
Re: Paul Ryan: Let kids starve, it builds character
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:49 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
While not endorsing DM's sentiment, he makes a valid point.
Whoever this Paul Ryan is (and anyone who says "buddy" for effect is a tosser), that video does not show him saying anything about a "kid saying he would rather not eat than eat a school lunch merely because it was paid for by you and me".
Instead, he told of a child who was eating those school lunches every day but wished that he had a brown-bag lunch "just like the other kids". I suspect the child was less bothered about Ryan's conclusion (because it was packed 'with love') than that he didn't like being different - the identified poor kid - perhaps because the other kids made fun of him, perhaps not.
At any rate, the political 'sincerity' is puke-worthy but not because Ryan said a kid would rather starve than eat.
Re: Paul Ryan: Let kids starve, it builds character
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:11 pm
by oldr_n_wsr
FYI, I don't know if Paul Ryan has kids, but the fact is that these days most kids don't go to school with a brown paper bag - most kids buy the school lunch with a prepaid card, even if they have working parents. (In fact, it was that way already when I was in grade school in the 80s.)
My kids did not have any pre-paid card for lunch meals and I didn't know anyone who had a prepaid card and my kids went to grammar school in the 90's. They brown bagged it except for the days they liked what was on the menu (usually once a week). I'll have to ask my daughter about "prepaid" cards her classmates may have had.
Re: Paul Ryan: Let kids starve, it builds character
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:42 pm
by BoSoxGal
I'm speaking from my own experience - in the 80s we actually used cash money - with children I've 'parented' as a step-mom. Maybe it's a Montana thing, but even in the TV shows there are often references to kids having lunch money . . . to buy lunch. Yes, some people have the time to brown bag but many, many do not.
I don't know why I bother getting pissed at this stupid rhetoric anymore - there are far too many people who will lap up this crap, just look at all the ones who loved (still love!) Palin.
Okay, no - the MOST disgusting thing he said was that bit at the end about liberals just don't get it - WTF? Liberals don't get that children would do best in safe, loving homes with adequate resources to eat????
Fucking ridiculous.
Re: Paul Ryan: Let kids starve, it builds character
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 2:48 pm
by rubato
The story was puke-worthy because Ryan made it to advocate cutting the school lunch program and also because it was a lie:
"... The original story had nothing to do with a child turning down a free lunch. It's about a kid, Maurice Mazyck, who met a private benefactor, Laura, asking to literally have his lunch placed in a brown paper bag:
“Look, Maurice, I don’t want you out there hungry on the nights I don’t see you, so this is what we can do. I can either give you some money for the week–and you’ll have to be really careful about how you spend it–or when you come over on Monday night we can go to the supermarket and I can buy all the things you like to eat and make you lunch for the week. I’ll leave it wih the doormen, and you can pick it up on the way to school.”
Maurice looked at me and asked me a question.
“If you make me lunch,” he said, “will you put it in a brown paper bag?”
I didn’t really understand the question. “Do you want it in a brown paper bag?” I asked. “Or how would you prefer it?”
“Miss Laura,” he said, “I don’t want your money. I want my lunch in a brown paper bag.”
“Okay, sure. But why do you want it in a bag?”
“Because when I see kids come to school with their lunch in a paper bag, that means someone cares about them. Miss Laura, can I please have my lunch in a paper bag?”
... "
Ryan lies reflexively.
yrs,
rubato
Re: Paul Ryan: Let kids starve, it builds character
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:44 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
Yes, and that's what Ryan said. He made no mention whatever of any child "turning down" a school lunch
Still pukey tho'
Re: Paul Ryan: Let kids starve, it builds character
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:01 pm
by rubato
You're wrong. The child specifically says "I don't want a free lunch" in Ryan's (dishonest) version of the story.
Go listen to it again.
yrs,
rubato
Re: Paul Ryan: Let kids starve, it builds character
Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2015 8:14 pm
by Joe Guy
I think Meade was half-baked when he watched the video...
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