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jerry Seinfeld, that conservative icon, is the latest criminal to be perp walked thru the media for speaking the truth....

Wut?

he said that he won t play colleges because the kids have been taught to be intolerant pc conformists who actually know nothing of what they speak, basically

He makes excellent points:

Jerry Seinfeld Says Colleges Are Too Politically Correct, Kids Don't Understand Racism Or Sexism

College kids are too politically correct for Jerry Seinfeld.

The comedian spoke to ESPN Radio host Colin Cowherd for an episode of "The Herd with Colin Cowherd" to promote the latest season of "Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee," and the two talked about political correctness and comedy. Cowherd commented how comedians like Chris Rock and Larry the Cable Guy won't perform at college campuses for this very reason.

"I hear that all the time," Seinfeld said. "I don't play colleges, but I hear a lot of people tell me, 'Don't go near colleges. They're so PC.' I'll give you an example: My daughter's 14. My wife says to her, 'Well, you know, in the next couple years, I think maybe you’re going to want to be hanging around the city more on the weekends, so you can see boys.' You know what my daughter says? She says, ‘That’s sexist.’ They just want to use these words: 'That’s racist'; 'That’s sexist'; 'That’s prejudice.' They don’t know what they’re talking about.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/06/0 ... ertainment

While I'll withhold any comment on the campuses, not spending a lot of time with younger students (I teach mainly students at the graduate level), I dothink he makes a point. Comedy is a way to attack ideas and expose them for what they are; the character Archie Bunker did more to expose how stupid racist ideas were than thousands of the tut-tutters bemoaning racist comments (and ditto for the way the show treated many of Mike's ideas). it has its place.

College is supposed to be a place where ideas are explored and analyzed and discussed--it's the way we all learn. Placing some ideas on a forbidden list makes no sense. Not that I think it is appropriate for a professor to make racist jokes in a class having nothing to do with racism or history or culture, but when the jokes are presented in an appropriate forum (like a comedy show someone chooses to see) they can often spur the discussions.

ah , the sweet voice of reason speaks.....

there is hope for freedom and liberty and self determination.....

Jerry totally missed the mark. He is responsible for his daughter's mindset, parenting is important in shaping early views of the world. She's only 14, its not like she's even been to college yet.

So why blame colleges if the minds they have to work with are already closed? Probably because it's easy to sneer at the so-called "liberal elite" and god forbid anyone challenge God/USA/Parents.

Jerry Seinfeld is externalizing the cowardice of comedians who are too afraid to go in front of an audience who might react negatively and calling that 'silencing'.


I'm sorry Jerry! If you only get one encore are you being 'inhibited' by them? 'stifled' ???


When Lenny Bruce was "silenced", he was hauled off to jail, his cabaret license was revoked (which kept him from any work at all); when the frail children of Jerry's era are 'silenced' someone doesn't like their act and says mean things about them.

Pa - fucking - thetic.


yrs,
rubato

cowardice is saying hateful things on the internet where there is no danger of getting punched in the nose for it

Reading comprehension much (wesw gets a pass on that)?

The interviewer posited that Chris Rock and Larry the Cable Guy do not play colleges BECAUSE of PC attitudes.

Seinfeld nowhere stated that he doesn't play colleges because they are PC - merely that he doesn't perform on the college circuit. Therefore he has no direct experience of PC attacks on campus. He could only comment that his high school daughter is already responding with reflexive PC answers to a quite normal fatherly comment.

So where's the slam against Chris Rock or Larry, hmmmm?

Guinevere wrote:Jerry totally missed the mark. He is responsible for his daughter's mindset, parenting is important in shaping early views of the world. She's only 14, its not like she's even been to college yet.

So why blame colleges if the minds they have to work with are already closed? Probably because it's easy to sneer at the so-called "liberal elite" and god forbid anyone challenge God/USA/Parents.

Guin--I do agree with you about jerry and his partial (if not full) responsibility for his daughter's mindset. But face it, universities have over the years been characterized as enacting PC codes in the interests of protecting their students, and have to share in what they have wrought.

Jerry Seinfeld is externalizing the cowardice of comedians who are too afraid to go in front of an audience who might react negatively and calling that 'silencing'.

I don't see that; I think he's more saying he wouldn't want to perform for people who don't appreciate his humor and then expressing surprise/concern that university audiences, which one would ordinarily expect to be more open to different ideas and forms of humor, are among these.

Meade--are you saying that because he does not play colleges (and hasn't expressly said this is because of what he sees/understands as a PC environment), his opinions have no validity? He is talking more about comedy generally and the effects of political correctness on its values, and I do think those are good points. Colleges may or may not be overly PC as compared to the rest of the country, but this is an allegation that is often made. Is it true? I think it might well be overstated and misunderstood, but I do think that culture does exist at some universities, and that students lose out because of it.

When I was in law school, I recall watching one of my classmates try to explain which SC justice in a photo was justice Marshall (the only black justice on the court at the time) without saying he was black. To me, that's PC run amuck; it's not even the intent of most of its proponents. But it is where an overabundance of PC will lead.