Plan B Forum

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:29 pm**

I really want to vote in the primary this year.....

I ve never voted in a primary. Maryland and Delaware did not allow it

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:36 pm**

They don't have primaries?

I don't know about Delaware, but Maryland has had them since at least '72...

(I know this because I recall George Wallace being shot in Maryland while he was campaigning in that primary...)

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:38 pm**

Why wouldn't you register as a republican? You want a republican president so what's the problem? You might as well get involved in the process from the beginning.

Besides, you think like a republican and you have republican-type buddies like Jim and Meade. If you don't register as a republican soon, you might as well shoot yourself in the foot with an unregistered gun...

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:40 pm**

Lord Jim wrote:They don't have primaries?

I think he was/is registered as an independent - but I don't know that for sure.

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:42 pm**

Lord Jim wrote:They don't have primaries?

Closed primaries. You have to be registered in a particular party, and you get that party's ballot. Unlike MA where you can register undeclared and take either ballot you like in the primary election.

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:53 pm**

Ahh, so what he's saying is that they didn't have "open" primaries; you had to register with a party to vote in the primary...

We didn't have party registration for primary voting in Virginia...

I showed up to vote a number of times for the weakest candidates in Democratic primaries for statewide elections...

(even after I had been a delegate to state conventions to chose the Republican nominees; there was no law against it...

)

Virginia still does not require it; nor do many other states (like New Hampshire...California does)

ETA:

But nowadays it's become so simple and quick to change party registration, (or to go from Independent to "D" or "R" or back again) that if you really want to vote in a primary, it ain't no big thang to be able to do it...

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:17 pm**

yep, Maryland and Delaware have closed primaries and I am an independent. I didn t vote when I lived in MA

kinda turns the one man, one vote thing on its head. stupid parties.....

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:23 pm**

and no, joe.

I will not become a republican anytime soon.

not as long as cheney is in the party anyway.....

i only think like a republican 50% of the time...

and what other kind of gun would i shoot myself in the foot with? some big brother sanctioned micro chipped plastic 3-D printed crap?

nope its good old unregistered steel for me , joe

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 10:58 pm**

I m not a republican, I just play one on plan b...

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:00 pm**

Registering that you support a party is a part of the truly bonkers US political system, go for it wes!!

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:07 pm**

I don t think that I can, gob. I spent most of my adult life disgusted by republicans.

Nixon, Gingrich, de lay, cheney, hatch, Boehner...., I can t be in their party....

...but I still may register as one.

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:30 pm**

Gob wrote:Registering that you support a party is a part of the truly bonkers US political system, go for it wes!!

Who is it that votes for the party leadership in the -oh-so-sane British system Strop?

Let's take the upcoming Labour leadership vote for example:

The 2015 leadership election will use a "one member, one vote" system, in which the votes of party members and members of affiliated organisations are counted equally.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leader_of ... y_%28UK%29

Seems to me that a fellow who hails from a country where one of the two major parties is poised to choose as its leader a 9/11 "truther" who finds the death of Osama bin Ladin a "tragedy", is poorly positioned to ridicule the leadership selection process here across The Pond :

Jeremy Corbyn still favourite to win Labour election despite Tony Blair's 'Alice in Wonderland' pleas

Jeremy Corbyn remains favourite to win the Labour leadership election despite a plea from Tony Blair to reject his “Alice in Wonderland” appeal.

The former prime minister and three-time general election winner admitted appeals from him and fellow ex-leaders Gordon Brown and Neil Kinnock seem to have boosted Mr Corbyn’s campaign.

But writing in The Observer, Mr Blair said: “Neil Kinnock, Gordon Brown and I have collectively around 150 years of Labour party membership.

"We’re very different. We disagree on certain things. But on this we’re agreed.

“It is like a driver coming to a roadblock on a road they’ve never travelled before and three grizzled veterans say, ‘Don’t go any further, we have been up and down this road many times and we’re warning you there are falling rocks, mudslides, dangerous hairpin bends and then a sheer drop’.

“And the driver says, ‘Screw you, stop patronising me. I know what I’m doing.’

“In the Alice in Wonderland world this parallel reality has created, it is we who are backward looking for pointing out that the Corbyn programme is exactly what we fought and lost on 30 years ago, not him for having it.”

Mr Corbyn remains bookies’ overwhelming favourite to pull off a shock win over experienced former cabinet ministers Andy Burnham and Yvette Cooper. Liz Kendall is trailing in fourth.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/je ... in-6351984

Looks to me like the Brits have got their own clown thing goin' on....

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:32 pm**

Lord Jim wrote: I showed up to vote a number of times for the weakest candidates in Democratic primaries for statewide elections...

You voted a number of times in the same election. No surprise there...

I plan to vote like a good democrat. I will register as an illegal alien.

Posted: **Mon Aug 31, 2015 11:54 pm**

Ermmm... Jim. The idea of having to register to vote as a party supporter is the lunacy.

In the UK you have to be a member of a party in order to vote for that party's leader, that is sane.

Posted: **Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:01 am**

I can vote in the general elections, gob, just not in the primaries.

but you are right, our system needs changes. luckily the ability to change is enshrined in our constitution, it just ain t easy....

and the states have (had) rights here too. they make their own rules , within the constitution,for primaries or another mechanism for choosing candidates

Posted: **Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:07 am**

Ermmm... Jim. The idea of having to register to vote as a party supporter is the lunacy.

To vote in that party's primary, to select the candidate that party will nominate to stand in a general election? Why is that "lunacy"?

Posted: **Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:19 am**

wesw wrote:I m not a republican, I just play one on plan b...

As usual, you have the wrong end of the stick. From day I you've sounded like a conservative. Go register with your brethren (interesting choice of words by LJ in the other thread, isn't it . . .) and be honest about where your beliefs lie.

Posted: **Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:21 am**

Re: should register as a repub?

I'd buy a vowel first

Posted: **Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:38 am**

should I.....

thanks

Posted: **Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:43 am**

(interesting choice of words by LJ in the other thread, isn't it . . .)

Oh puleeze...

I obviously used that term as a take-off on the "religious-congregation" meaning of the word....

Yeah, my intent was clearly sexist; I definitely meant to exclude women....

I've used the phrases "my Republican Brethren" and "my conservative Brethren " a number of times before...(generally right before letting them have it in the chops; as I did on this occasion)...

(BTW, I stole that phrase from the late great conservative writer Wiliam Safire...

(I also stole the "Your humble correspondent" bit from Bill.... )