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Bliar liar

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:48 pm
by Gob
A bombshell White House memo has revealed for the first time details of the ‘deal in blood’ forged by Tony Blair and George Bush over the Iraq War.

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The sensational leak shows that Blair had given an unqualified pledge to sign up to the conflict a year before the invasion started.

It flies in the face of the Prime Minister’s public claims at the time that he was seeking a diplomatic solution to the crisis.

He told voters: ‘We’re not proposing military action’ – in direct contrast to what the secret email now reveals.

The damning memo, from Secretary of State Colin Powell to President George Bush, was written on March 28, 2002, a week before Bush’s famous summit with Blair at his Crawford ranch in Texas.

In it, Powell tells Bush that Blair ‘will be with us’ on military action. Powell assures the President: ‘The UK will follow our lead’.

Big man? Blair's ego was flattered by the President during his visit to his ranch home. He is pictured above embracing First Lady Laura Bush

The disclosure is certain to lead for calls for Sir John Chilcot to reopen his inquiry into the Iraq War if, as is believed, he has not seen the Powell memo.

A second explosive memo from the same cache also reveals how Bush used ‘spies’ in the Labour Party to help him to manipulate British public opinion in favour of the war.

The documents, obtained by The Mail on Sunday, are part of a batch of secret emails held on the private server of Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton which U.S. courts have forced her to reveal.

Former Tory Shadow Home Secretary David Davis said: ‘The memos prove in explicit terms what many of us have believed all along: Tony Blair effectively agreed to act as a frontman for American foreign policy in advance of any decision by the House of Commons or the British Cabinet.

‘He was happy to launder George Bush’s policy on Iraq and sub-contract British foreign policy to another country without having the remotest ability to have any real influence over it. And in return for what?

'For George Bush pretending Blair was a player on the world stage to impress voters in the UK when the Americans didn’t even believe it themselves’.

Davis was backed by a senior diplomat with close knowledge of Blair-Bush relations who said: ‘This memo shows beyond doubt for the first time Blair was committed to the Iraq War before he even set foot in Crawford.

'And it shows how the Americans planned to make Blair look an equal partner in the special relationship to bolster his position in the UK.’

Blair’s spokesman insisted last night that Powell’s memo was ‘consistent with what he was saying publicly at the time’.

The former Prime Minister has always hotly denied the claim that the two men signed a deal ‘in blood’ at Crawford to embark on the war, which started on March 20, 2003.


Re: Bliar liar

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:44 am
by MajGenl.Meade
Doesn't look like lying to me. The editorial is mostly kinda bullshit. And I don't like Bliar at all

Re: Bliar liar

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 12:00 pm
by Lord Jim
Doesn't look like lying to me.
No, of course he isn't....Saying you will stand by your ally while at the same time saying you hope for a diplomatic solution isn't remotely "lying"...

The people who want to believe that Blair and/or Bush "deliberately lied" to bring on the Iraq War are fanatical on the subject, despite the fact that they have not one shred of proof to back up their claim. This complete lack of proof is something that they find quite frustrating, so they will grasp at the thinnest of straws and try to call it "proof", in order to try and validate their belief...

As thin straws go this one is particularly malnourished; it should be embarrassing that anyone would even try to use it.
He is pictured above embracing First Lady Laura Bush
Oh the horror! :o How dare he!

What this article proves is that the dissembler is the author of the article; not Blair.

Re: Bliar liar

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:48 pm
by rubato
He cuckolded Rupert Murdoch with Wendy Murdoch so he's doing something right:

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The UK government couldn't even punish Murdoch as well for bribing the police and hacking into people's private cell phones.


yrs,
rubato

Re: Bliar liar

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:52 pm
by Gob
rubato wrote:
The UK government couldn't even punish Murdoch as well for bribing the police and hacking into people's private cell phones.

We tend not to punish people for things they have not done.

Re: Bliar liar

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:03 pm
by Lord Jim
rubato wrote:He cuckolded Rupert Murdoch with Wendy Murdoch so he's doing something right:

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The UK government couldn't even punish Murdoch as well for bribing the police and hacking into people's private cell phones.


yrs,
rubato
Geesus, that's one of the worst Photoshop jobs I've ever seen...

Re: Bliar liar

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:02 pm
by rubato
Gob wrote:
rubato wrote:
The UK government couldn't even punish Murdoch as well for bribing the police and hacking into people's private cell phones.

We tend not to punish people for things they have not done.

Those are things his paper, the one under his direction and control, admitted to have done.

That's why he killed the paper. Remember?

yrs,
rubato

Re: Bliar liar

Posted: Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:15 pm
by Gob
It must be lovely to live in a world where complex matters are reduced to absurd simplicities. But that's your Apergers working for you for a change.

Re: Bliar liar

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:51 pm
by Gob
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Re: Bliar liar

Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 4:09 am
by Lord Jim
rubato wrote:
Gob wrote:
The UK government couldn't even punish Murdoch as well for bribing the police and hacking into people's private
cell phones.

We tend not to punish people for things they have not done.

Those are things his paper, the one under his direction and control, admitted to have done.

That's why he killed the paper. Remember?

yrs,
rubato[/quote]

Those are things his paper, the one under his direction and control, admitted to have done.

That's why he killed the paper. Remember?

yrs,
rubato
I'm having a really hard time trying to figure our what this is supposed to mean...