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maya and miguel

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 5:42 pm
by wesw

Re: maya and miguel

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 6:55 pm
by rubato
Cute kids.



yrs,
rubato

Re: maya and miguel

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:42 pm
by Joe Guy
I now think that we should deport the legal Mexicans too.

Re: maya and miguel

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 7:50 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
rubato wrote:Cute kids.



yrs,
rubato
rude little shit

Re: maya and miguel

Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2015 8:10 pm
by rubato
When Mexico sends its people," Trump said during his presidential announcement, "they're not sending the best. They're not sending you, they're sending people that have lots of problems and they're bringing those problems. They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. They're rapists and some, I assume, are good people, but I speak to border guards and they're telling us what we're getting."

MajGenl.Meade wrote:[

rude little shit

Nice to see those kids give the rude little shit a proper smackdown. Innit?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDkoCtMOFOg


yrs,
rubato

Re: maya and miguel

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:47 am
by MajGenl.Meade
It's never nice to see children being encouraged to vulgarity

... Trump's bad enough already.

Re: maya and miguel

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 2:56 am
by Lord Jim
Though I tweek him regularly for his bluenose prigishness, I have to agree with the Gen'l on this one...

Encouraging small children to make rude gestures or engage in vulgar language is never justified...

Even with a target as rude and vulgar as Trump...

Re: maya and miguel

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 11:35 am
by wesw
shouldn t that be 'priggishness' ? with 2 g s?

Re: maya and miguel

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:32 pm
by rubato
The boundaries exist so that they can be transgressed. If it were otherwise we would have 'forbidden' words which are never spoken because no one knows what they are.

In transgressing the boundaries the speaker is sometimes using it for shock value to get the attention of the audience and also indicate the weight and importance of the subject.

The makers of this video, including the children, reasonably believe that being called rapists and murderers, called "anchor babies" and suggesting that mass deportation is a solution to a problem is sufficiently grave an insult that the use of 'forbidden' language is justified.

I have to agree with them. They succeeded in communicating that the anti-immigrant hysteria Trump is tapping into is driven by an especially ugly form of racism.

This would be mere vulgarity only if they would not have such a compelling reason.

Maybe if 1/3 of the Republican party were calling for the deportation of everyone who looks like you this would be easier to understand?


yrs,
rubato

Re: maya and miguel

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 4:40 pm
by rubato
wesw wrote:shouldn t that be 'priggishness' ? with 2 g s?


Yes, you start with piggishness and then 'pirate it up' a little.


yrs,
rubato

Re: maya and miguel

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:09 pm
by wesw
so...,

fucking anchor babies would be ok, if I felt strongly about it?

I don t think so....

Re: maya and miguel

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:13 pm
by wesw
...at least you aren t referring to kids as mean and stupid anymore

Re: maya and miguel

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:21 pm
by Lord Jim
The boundaries exist so that they can be transgressed. blah blah blah
And that post ladies and gentlemen, is reason #5,437 for why we can all be eternally grateful that rube has never raised children...

Re: maya and miguel

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:42 pm
by rubato
That and the fact that I would teach children to be fearless in defending what is right.


Not obedient authority addicts.


yrs,
rubato

Re: maya and miguel

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 5:58 pm
by dales
rubato wrote:That and the fact that I would teach children to be fearless in defending what is right.



yrs,
rubato
Image

Re: maya and miguel

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:05 pm
by rubato
Rosa Parks advocated black people arming themselves with machine guns.
"... Thank you Miss Rosa, you are the spark
You started our freedom movement
Thank you Sister Rosa Parks ..."

Sometimes you are supposed to break the chains of conformity.


yrs,
rubato

Re: maya and miguel

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:11 pm
by Joe Guy
rubato wrote: The makers of this video, including the children, reasonably believe that being called rapists and murderers, called "anchor babies" and suggesting that mass deportation is a solution to a problem is sufficiently grave an insult that the use of 'forbidden' language is justified.
In other words, Donald Trump's message is so insulting to Mexicans that it made it okay to make a video of Mexican children saying 'Fuck You' to him and anyone who agrees with him.

Is that how you eradicate ignorance and racism? The "I know you are but what am I?" argument isn't the most effective method, in my opinion.

Most people understand that the way to change public opinion on any issue is to try to get people to understand your point of view so they might sympathize with your cause. All this video accomplishes is to insult the people they should be reaching out to for change and encourages children to mimic the kids in the video.

If you want to see an example of how effective the video is, read the comments section below the video on YouTube.

Re: maya and miguel

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:27 pm
by dales
Rosa Parks advocated black people arming themselves with machine guns.
Hell, a shotgun can do far more damage, besides "machine guns" are against the law.

LMAO! :lol:

Re: maya and miguel

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:30 pm
by dales
If you want to see an example of how effective the video is, read the comments section below the video on YouTube.
I did, and learned how this silly and obnoxious video has backfired big time.

The poor kid is but a tool and will no doubt have a bright future in cutting lawns or working in fast food. :lol:

Re: maya and miguel

Posted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 6:39 pm
by Joe Guy
I heard that in the local Hispanic community, "Baby's First Leaf Blower" is going to be a hot Christmas item this year.

I'm so ashamed of me.... :mrgreen: