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live free or die- new hampshire

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:37 pm
by wesw

Re: live free or die- new hampshire

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:49 am
by Econoline
:roll: Just what's so wrong with accuracy in language, or accuracy in geography? The word "American" is not being "banned"; the UofNH is just suggesting that it not be used to mean what it clearly does NOT mean.

I'm pretty sure people like you and Faux News would strongly object if Canadians, or Mexicans, or Brazilians insisted on calling themselves "Americans".

Re: live free or die- new hampshire

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:21 am
by Lord Jim
I'm pretty sure people like you and Faux News would strongly object if Canadians, or Mexicans, or Brazilians insisted on calling themselves "Americans".
Which of course they don't....

ETA:

BTW, I haven't watched the video in the OP...

Just pointing out the bleeding obvious...

Re: live free or die- new hampshire

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 1:24 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
Also there will be no more claims to actually be Spartacus.

Re: live free or die- new hampshire

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 2:45 pm
by Guinevere
Ummm, you better not be laughing too loudly, Mister USasian (or however you spell it). You've been making the same point now for how long???

Re: live free or die- new hampshire

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:15 pm
by rubato
Does this style guide actually say that usage is offensive? Or is it merely a style guide?

I suspect the latter which means this is yet another bullshit, manufactured story about PC-ism.

yrs,
rubato

Re: live free or die- new hampshire

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:32 pm
by Lord Jim
yet another bullshit, manufactured story
Quite right...

Much like the bullshit manufactured story about how Hitler was motivated by Catholicism...

Re: live free or die- new hampshire

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:44 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
Guinevere wrote:Ummm, you better not be laughing too loudly, Mister USasian (or however you spell it). You've been making the same point now for how long???
USian... it's so much less cumbersome than "U.S. citizen". And I thought the presentation of the news story was ridiculously biased. The suggestion to avoid using "American" when one means specifically citizens of the USA is quite OK and does not in the least suggest that to use "American" is offensive.

Also the stupid newsperson comment at the end about "including everyone" is of course the exact opposite of the point being made by the University's style guide.

Re: live free or die- new hampshire

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:12 pm
by rubato
Lord Jim wrote:
yet another bullshit, manufactured story
Quite right...

Much like the bullshit manufactured story about how Hitler was motivated by Catholicism...

Is that what I wrote? Please copy the statement in question.

I believe I actually said that murderous anti-semitism was created and promoted by the christian church for 1,000 years before Hitler and he merely used it for his own purposes. Drunk already? You and Meade both?


So you cannot prove they said it was offensive, can you?


I win again!


Neither of you really is very intelligent.


yrs,
rubato

Re: live free or die- new hampshire

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:15 pm
by rubato
MajGenl.Meade wrote:
Guinevere wrote:Ummm, you better not be laughing too loudly, Mister USasian (or however you spell it). You've been making the same point now for how long???
USian... it's so much less cumbersome than "U.S. citizen". And I thought the presentation of the news story was ridiculously biased. The suggestion to avoid using "American" when one means specifically citizens of the USA is quite OK and does not in the least suggest that to use "American" is offensive.

Also the stupid newsperson comment at the end about "including everyone" is of course the exact opposite of the point being made by the University's style guide.

Have you read the style guide? Where can I find a copy online?

yrs,
rubato

Re: live free or die- new hampshire

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 5:33 pm
by Lord Jim
I win again!
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Re: live free or die- new hampshire

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 6:15 pm
by rubato
Actually, I do win. No one has posted a direct reference to the style guide in question and I cannot find it online but in a different reference they say that the use of the word "American" is "problematic" not "offensive" so that was a typical right-wing lie.

The word is problematic if you are writing for a wider audience because to the rest of the world "American" means the inhabitants of North and South America which, shockingly to us, includes Canadians and Bolivians. The rest of the world calls us "the United States" refers to the inhabitants of same as "the people of the United States" and those with the glory of citizenship are "Citizens of the United States". It is a matter of clarity and if you are writing and wish to be understood it is worth paying attention to such details.


The anti-intellectualism of the Right is a curse on both them and us.


yrs,
rubato

Re: live free or die- new hampshire

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:58 pm
by dales
Lord Jim wrote:
I win again!
Yes you have, rube.

If that's what is so important to you. :ok

Re: live free or die- new hampshire

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:08 pm
by MajGenl.Meade
USian... it's so much less cumbersome than "U.S. citizen". And I thought the presentation of the news story was ridiculously biased. The suggestion to avoid using "American" when one means specifically citizens of the USA is quite OK and does not in the least suggest that to use "American" is offensive.

Also the stupid newsperson comment at the end about "including everyone" is of course the exact opposite of the point being made by the University's style guide.
rubato - you did understand that I'm agreeing with Econoline and with you that the TV report is slanted rubbish?

:shrug

Re: live free or die- new hampshire

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:33 pm
by wesw
so when iran says "deathe to America" they are referring to our whole hemisphere?

most of the world calls us americans, rube, but don t let the truth bother you....

...no need to start worrying about the truth now. unless you are ready to surrender....